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legendary
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October 18, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
Yes, there must had been a new script for that. Right. Because it wouldnt be too easy to simply stop trading and let people withdraw coins on its own. And in the portfolio he could have shown the codes that one should tell the issuer of the securities while the issuer only had to get a list with the codes and the owned shares. That would be a couple of databaserequestest. Not more.

But too easy isnt good right? And now some people got their coins accidentally doubled. What about the rest that didnt get their money yet? DAMN... what stupid handling.
hero member
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
October 18, 2012, 04:17:38 PM
So now I see where all my bitcoins went, he sent them to other people instead. Socialist!
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a big question mark
October 18, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.

Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters.
But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that.

He did get paid for it, by the 10% he is pocketing and the rest of us that havent gotten our payouts.

+1

Some people have double, others still missing payments https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1281648.

I see a storm coming.

oh dear... like a good sitcom
sr. member
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October 18, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.

Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters.
But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that.

He did get paid for it, by the 10% he is pocketing and the rest of us that havent gotten our payouts.

+1

Some people have double, others still missing payments https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1281648.

I see a storm coming.
member
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a big question mark
October 18, 2012, 03:09:18 PM
OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.

Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters.
But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that.

He did get paid for it, by the 10% he is pocketing and the rest of us that havent gotten our payouts.

+1
hero member
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
October 18, 2012, 03:03:45 PM
OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.

Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters.
But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that.

He did get paid for it, by the 10% he is pocketing and the rest of us that havent gotten our payouts.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
October 18, 2012, 01:08:06 PM
OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.

Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters.
But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that.
sr. member
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October 18, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
There was comment made earlier to the effect that James was holding up some of the process to force the rest of the GLBSE/Global to pay his CEO salary. The thought being that his paying job is the brilliant and steady hand at the tiller of the good ship GLBSE, and the scoundrels who oppose his enlightened leadership and gracious rule are working against the many and sundry debtors and investors clamoring at the door.

See, I am trying to write nice things because my 208 btc have not been forthcoming at all, and I fear that my gentle cajoling and friendly banter has cast me in a negative light, such that I will be the last to receive any service from the very nice people at GLBSE.
legendary
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October 18, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
What's the hold-up on the assets? Does anyone have any info, or is everyone in the dark?
He may be just working one problem at a time.

Get the refunds out, then do the asset lists...

I imagine, that if he is still getting claim info being submitted to, he's still working through that.

If he starts sending asset lists, they're going to be very incomplete, and with new claims still being filed, that'll change the lists, so putting that aside for now and just focusing on refunds until I'm caught up, and then sending out the initial lists with as much complete information as possible, is probably how I would handle it too.

As for the refunds tho... think those emails being sent out should be including the amount and the txid, for those who haven't received their transaction yet.

-- Smoov


Doesn't doing that demand a lot of time and attention? I don't see how James would have any time whatsoever to do a normal paying job, enabling him to pay monthly expenses to maintain a household and feed the family if this is all he's doing. OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it. It's either one scenario or the other.

~Bruno~
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Scattering my bits around the net since 1980
October 18, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
What's the hold-up on the assets? Does anyone have any info, or is everyone in the dark?
He may be just working one problem at a time.

Get the refunds out, then do the asset lists...

I imagine, that if he is still getting claim info being submitted to, he's still working through that.

If he starts sending asset lists, they're going to be very incomplete, and with new claims still being filed, that'll change the lists, so putting that aside for now and just focusing on refunds until I'm caught up, and then sending out the initial lists with as much complete information as possible, is probably how I would handle it too.

As for the refunds tho... think those emails being sent out should be including the amount and the txid, for those who haven't received their transaction yet.

-- Smoov


sr. member
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October 18, 2012, 07:56:09 AM
What's the hold-up on the assets? Does anyone have any info, or is everyone in the dark?
legendary
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October 18, 2012, 07:47:02 AM
Seems another thread has to be created with title "Failed GLBSE payment claims" & ask members to put their bitcoin address which they gave to GLBSE.
legendary
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October 18, 2012, 07:44:23 AM
Any issuers received news from Nef or user data/emails?

In the Information Age such data cost a lot of money. What's the point to give it for free?
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a big question mark
October 18, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
Oh man... 60 pages... this soap seems to run on thin air!

Got the email 3+ days ago and still ZERO BTC...

Is there a substantial number of users in this situation?

Granted, I had very little BTC (<1) in my account since most was invested in assets but see that there are people in the same situation who did get it back.
More worried about the assets, obviously.
Any issuers caring to comment on this?
Any issuers received news from Nef or user data/emails?
legendary
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October 17, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
Or would some indian do it maybe?

You are saying here, that Indians are doing illegal things & do illegal things?

You want to misunderstand me? I say that they probably are safer there when running such thing. Or you think government there is caring about such? If so there are plenty of countries where government isnt interested in such things.
legendary
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October 17, 2012, 01:26:58 PM
It's called "preponderance of evidence."  You just have to look "kinda guilty" to be found guilty in a civil court.  So yeah, you have to prove your innocence.

legendary
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October 17, 2012, 01:12:07 PM
Since when an accused has to prove his innocence? It used to be the other way around.
Since always. Criminal courts are a special exception where there's a presumption of innocence. Elsewhere, the evidence alone rules, there are no presumptions.

legendary
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October 17, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
I'd bet that's exactly what his lawyer told him, too.

Since when an accused has to prove his innocence? It used to be the other way around.
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October 17, 2012, 12:04:03 PM
I expect the 'operating funds for bitcoin global' are going to be brought up again, soon.
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October 17, 2012, 10:57:45 AM
But regarding the old platform. I dont think that he could have give out the code and he is out. Because its an unofficial thing. Even when he sells the code he still would be held responsible as the owner because he would had a hard time to explain that something illegal, that doesnt exist officially, has been sold and the new owner isnt known. That would look like he deleted his traces and run it now even more anonymous. He could only be out of it when he could sell it officially. But no one would do this when this is really illegal. Or would some indian do it maybe?

I only say i dont think it would be so easy for nef to get out of this.

I'd bet that's exactly what his lawyer told him, too.
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