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legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
October 09, 2018, 08:19:11 AM
We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion not their own fucking facts...  Do you know who likes to make up and change facts to suit their own agenda, we call them dictators (and President Trump)

As a very wise man once said, "Pssssssh facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything even remotely true, facts schmacks"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF6SNxNIV08

legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
September 27, 2018, 06:34:30 AM
[...] If someone here is giving out opinion [...]

Quote from: Isaac Asimov
The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
jr. member
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September 27, 2018, 05:30:40 AM
I don't agree with that statement.  The ability to think critically or rationally isn't inherently tied to one's trustworthiness, in my not so humble opinion.
As much as I respect Vod--and I respect him a great deal--I think he probably shouldn't have left that feedback for the reason he gave.  

Obviously joerogers8 is delusional if he thinks the Earth is flat, but I think his views on that are only loosely related to trust on bitcointalk.  There are a lot of folks who hold some very strange ideas, including religious people.  You could argue that Christians, Muslims, and Jews live their lives based on a book of fairy tales, but would I give them a neg on the forum?  No, not at all.

However, Vod is entitled to his opinion and is free to give a neg to whoever he deems worthy of one.  He's also the only one who can remove it, so this is an issue between joerogers8 and Vod.  We can all give our opinion on it, but none of us can do anything about it.

Among trust personalities here, this guy is really one of those who think based on the situation.


If someone here is giving out opinion, I don't think it's fair to give them neg trust, we can just have a healthy discussion to talk things about. (don't get me wrong though, I don't believe Earth is flat, lol)

Don't you think giving out neg trust is somehow harassment?
hero member
Activity: 2170
Merit: 528
September 27, 2018, 04:21:44 AM
3. I can now red tag people who believe 9/11 was an inside job
In fact there's a lot of proof that some of the story was fabricated. How would you address the part about an plane hitting the pentagon and turning to dust right after or one of the planes crashing somewhere in the field and disappearing? Later they found one of its engines nearby that happened to belong to a completely different model.
IMO people who believe that the 911 story is exactly as they told us deserve the red much more than non-believers.

We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...

Well said.
If people continue to use trust to tag posters with different opinions the system will lose its purpose and in time we will begin to ignore it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
September 26, 2018, 09:05:24 AM
On the side note, it is pretty shamefull you keep throwing merits back and forth on who insults the guy better

You might want to take a look at who sent you merits for your diatribe... the king of hypocrisy himself.

Ridiculous shit gets ridiculed all the time IRL too. It's the intertubes that gives all sorts of whackos the impression that they're not alone therefore their delusions have merit (pun intended). Newsflash - no.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 26, 2018, 06:52:14 AM
#99
Oh man this guy has a child, I already have pity for the amount of bullying he must endure.

One time my dad told me that grape vines were actually alien tentacles and they would snatch my little brother if I let him get too close to them. Really he just wanted to protect his wine grapes while using me as a goof. I forgave him for that, but I'm not sure if I could forgive him for insisting on home schooling me while teaching me the earth wasn't round.

Yeah, he needs to watch it.  All children explicitly trust their parents because they depend on them.

Unless his mental retardation was passed onto his child, eventually the kid will realize his dad is a nut job, and he will lose respect for him.  :/

He slipped in the other thread, and wrote that airplanes disappear over the horizon.  Impossible on a flat earth... it would slowly fade into the "fog" in the middle of the sky.   Same as the sun.  Same as the moon.  Yet everything sets on the horizon - proving rotation. 

I'm sure he will continue even though he has been exposed as a troll. 

legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
September 26, 2018, 03:45:34 AM
#98
New conspiracy theory incoming:

Bitcoin enslaved us

Part one: Kids - create your own slave

If we don't even know where we live and only rely on what we are told how can we judge who is behind Bitcoin and what their intentions are?  I love Bitcoin and use it every chance I get.  I spend 1 to 2 hrs a day teaching my son about crypto/trading however if I don't know where I live, how do I know the main motivation behind Bitcoin.  Are we slowly setting up our friends, family and countrymen to be victims of the blockchain (public ledger).  Crypto seems wonderful right now and the freedom that it provides is second to none.  However, is there a more sinister plot at hand here such as a plan to tie us all down to our wallets (kyc/blockchain identity projects).  If this begins to happen I feel like crypto can be used to enslave us all under the disguise of freeing us.  Bankers and government love to do this to us.  You know they want a one world currency.  What would be better than to have a one world currency + a taxing mechanism to steal form us.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 26, 2018, 02:44:15 AM
#97
Projecting again? You literally posted such a rating without reference. Vod has articulated a reason why he thinks the OP can't be trusted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=358020



It would be nice if someone could compile the long list of times Quickseller has told others not to do what he does (hypocrite). I've lost count.

That would be meritable post.  Smiley
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 26, 2018, 02:42:08 AM
#96
A 12 year old would have the common sense to admit he was lying when confronted by everyone.

I'll just crawl back from where i came from, this is literally way beneth me.

I literally cried myself to death when I read that.  Sad
full member
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September 26, 2018, 02:36:14 AM
#95

It looks like the OP took your diagnosis seriously and has gone full retard:


How does this come as a surprise to you? How would you expect someone to behave when he is trapped into a corner and bullied?
Y'all behaved like a 12 year old bully, obviously you don't have credibility no matter what you say.
People who behave like that are usually invisible, their opinion is not respected (IRL or internet in this case) and they tend to communicate by ridiculing and putting the other person down. If this is the image you want for yourself then go right ahead, but you my want to take a look inside at those unfulfilled emotions that emerge from a rough childhood. If you don't, you will, sadly, never grow up and you will be just another one of those people with a little child stuck in grown man body.

On the side note, it is pretty shamefull you keep throwing merits back and forth on who insults the guy better, yet you gang up like Kim Jong Un's army on newbies for every merit they get.
Maybe the reason why there are so many problems in this forum (that everyone knows) is that there are too many rotten tomatoes in the leadership department.

At this point you are just like that guy...you are looking at a picture with the round earth and saying it's flat.
What is obvious is obvious and is clearly you don't have sufficient intelectual capacity to understand that or you just don't have the will to do it.

I'll just crawl back from where i came from, this is literally way beneath me.
Tszunami out!
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 26, 2018, 02:13:01 AM
#94
Come on.
You know you don't really believe he has severe mental issues!

With all due respect, I do believe he has mental issues.  The guy is calling me a retard for posting a simple fact a preschooler knows.  :/

We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...

Agreed.  But there should be consequences where a person constantly lies i an attempt to confuse people.
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
September 25, 2018, 11:45:10 PM
#93
We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
September 25, 2018, 10:45:47 PM
#92
Okay, I'm out.
Could report that post, insults without any constructive info behind are deleted sometimes..
legendary
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https://bpip.org
September 25, 2018, 07:16:32 PM
#91
What the?
You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard,

To be fair to the other posters in the thread who may be a little more politically correct than me.  I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who called him a retard.  I stand behind that statement in fact I may have given him too much credit because most retards can look at a picture and identify a round object.  The OP for some reason doesn't even have the ability to do that simple task!

It looks like the OP took your diagnosis seriously and has gone full retard:

Hey this is the dumbass that couldn't get the simple video I was talking about from above.  LOL.  Watch out notbatman.  This guy is a real tool. 

I also realized Vod is an overweight Canuck.  We should take it easy on him.  He's Canadian.  Our retarded cousin to the North.  Vod has an excuse.  Not sure about the other dumbass though. 

It takes a special kind of shithead to insult someone for being Canadian.
legendary
Activity: 1764
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
September 25, 2018, 05:52:21 PM
#90
What the?
You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard,

To be fair to the other posters in the thread who may be a little more politically correct than me.  I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who called him a retard.  I stand behind that statement in fact I may have given him too much credit because most retards can look at a picture and identify a round object.  The OP for some reason doesn't even have the ability to do that simple task!
legendary
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🤩Finally Married🤩
September 25, 2018, 05:37:32 PM
#89
I think you should get a new thread for these things.
It's kinda like iluvbitcoins is the one whose being convicted here. The OP isn't here anymore as I can conclude, and everybody now has being triggered by iluvbitcoins.

Doesn't know  if he too believes the same thing as the OP does. Or just another second the motion thing that Vod is actually doing blatant things that can't hardly be accepted by these people?

A funny thing that these has been gone into conversation of twigs.

Move on people. Trust System doesn't work always within your side. It's just a common thing whether a user trust you or not, and same goes for the next person whose gonna do some transactions into your account.
It's not a big deal for the OP, besides his not doing any transactions here. (Added: it may be a big deal if he is joining campaigns Grin )

(Well if some will ever tagged me then I suggest to have a -9999 trust score for being a troll - that would be awesome ... Now I'm curious how did someone get that -9999 with just a few feedbacks, if you know who I'm talking about ) Grin

Edited:
So far I don't see that the Trust System is being abused by Vod. ( and I wouldn't also lie about how this damn planet actually looks like ... it isnt flat and it also wasn't a sphere or circle... it is an oblate spheroid (based on my science teacher who already died long time ago ) ) Grin
legendary
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September 25, 2018, 05:17:31 PM
#88
The basis for any negative rating must ultimately be that the person is believed to be a scammer or someone who will scam in the future. The comment is only an explanation for this belief. The standard of “I don’t trust this person” is ridiculous and is an improper use of the trust system.

Projecting again? You literally posted such a rating without reference. Vod has articulated a reason why he thinks the OP can't be trusted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=358020

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legendary
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Freedom&Honor
September 25, 2018, 05:07:59 PM
#87
My feedback is factual and appropriate.

Come on.
You know you don't really believe he has severe mental issues!

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By the same logic if we let lying become socially acceptable then... well, luckily for you the reality is not a black-and-white slippery slope so don't worry too much about that. We'll cross that bridge (or slope) when we get to it.

He hasn't been negged for lying but for believing that Earth is flat.
copper member
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September 25, 2018, 04:20:05 PM
#86
Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying?
I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.

In the flat earth thread, he claims he watched a ship go over the horizon and he brought it back with binoculars.

That is obviously a lie, because it's impossible.  :/

Okay.

So, the correct wording should be:

The user has been caught lying. Trade with caution.

Or something along those lines. Not

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Believes the earth is flat. I can't trust people with severe mental issues.
The rating is absolutely wrong. His statements regarding what he did or did not see have absolutely nothing to do with him being a scammer and/or someone planning on scamming in the future.

The basis for any negative rating must ultimately be that the person is believed to be a scammer or someone who will scam in the future. The comment is only an explanation for this belief. The standard of “I don’t trust this person” is ridiculous and is an improper use of the trust system.
legendary
Activity: 3654
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https://bpip.org
September 25, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
#85
instead of explaining why his 'experiment' is fake and that isn't possible.

You're confused. There is nothing to explain to a liar. By definition the liar knows they're lying.

But if we let this become socially acceptable, someone else will, and it's a matter of time when it's going to happen.

By the same logic if we let lying become socially acceptable then... well, luckily for you the reality is not a black-and-white slippery slope so don't worry too much about that. We'll cross that bridge (or slope) when we get to it.
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