[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 275.

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: swartzfeger on March 24, 2014, 09:30:45 PM

Quote from: joninoakland on March 24, 2014, 06:41:24 PM

I was browsing the NXT thread which I learned about after someone pointed out how to get a stake in NEM. In the NXT thread is a guy who has all the stats on those who forge. The distribution really isn't that wide. It drives home the complaint about NXT being true. (A few large stakeholders) So now we have guys showing up on here trying to discredit NEM by putting it under the same umbrella as NXT. It makes perfect sense as NEM is probably the biggest threat to NXT at the moment from what I see.

L-O-L internet.

Since forging isn't intended as a means of distribution, how is that relevant?

I'm a NEM stakeholder and cautiously optimistic for its prospects... but to be honest, the bulk of what I see here are logos and bitching/complaining/defending NEM's stakes. In Nxt-land we're banging out the last few client bugs in the asset exchange. Not a lot here to make a reasonable Nxt holder shake at the knees.

This is said with much respect as a NEM holder -- any notion that negativity is coming from Nxters is a fairy tale, we're too busy testing and coding new services (I only visit this thread once a week to check stakeholder status).

I guess that is quite optimistic

Likely not all are testing and coding. 1 - 2 weeks ago it was talked about hoarding

(I meant not to poke NXT or Nexters, as I support both NXT and NEM - just trying to pick up the facts and possibilities)

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Quote from: joninoakland on March 24, 2014, 06:41:24 PM

I was browsing the NXT thread which I learned about after someone pointed out how to get a stake in NEM. In the NXT thread is a guy who has all the stats on those who forge. The distribution really isn't that wide. It drives home the complaint about NXT being true. (A few large stakeholders) So now we have guys showing up on here trying to discredit NEM by putting it under the same umbrella as NXT. It makes perfect sense as NEM is probably the biggest threat to NXT at the moment from what I see.

L-O-L internet.

Since forging isn't intended as a means of distribution, how is that relevant?

I'm a NEM stakeholder and cautiously optimistic for its prospects... but to be honest, the bulk of what I see here are logos and bitching/complaining/defending NEM's stakes. In Nxt-land we're banging out the last few client bugs in the asset exchange. Not a lot here to make a reasonable Nxt holder shake at the knees.

This is said with much respect as a NEM holder -- any notion that negativity is coming from Nxters is a fairy tale, we're too busy testing and coding new services (I only visit this thread once a week to check stakeholder status).

I'm bullish on Nxt and hopeful for NEM. Hopefully there will be less negativity here once the refunds happen.

I've got a lot of respect for utopianfuture, because he could've pulled the plug like the eMunie drama but he hasn't let the trolls ruffle his feathers. Nice work, utopianfuture!

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: TauMuon on March 24, 2014, 08:20:59 PM

I don't understand why people with multiple sockpuppets maliciously brag about the number of stakes they have. Why would they do it?

To satisfy some sort of egotistical attention-seeking craving.
To attempt to discredit NEM's distribution.

Either or, they need to be proven wrong or ignored.

Maybe the 2nd ...

The responsibility to prove is usually on the prosecutor's side. But first should exist the "crime". No crime, no need to prove Wink

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Quote from: TauMuon on March 24, 2014, 08:20:59 PM

I don't understand why people with multiple sockpuppets maliciously brag about the number of stakes they have. Why would they do it?

To satisfy some sort of egotistical attention-seeking craving.
To attempt to discredit NEM's distribution.

Either or, they need to be proven wrong or ignored.

I think they're just trolls with an agenda. At least most of them.

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Quote from: ShawnLeary on March 24, 2014, 08:32:33 PM

Quote from: TauMuon on March 24, 2014, 08:20:59 PM

I don't understand why people with multiple sockpuppets maliciously brag about the number of stakes they have. Why would they do it?

To satisfy some sort of egotistical attention-seeking craving.
To attempt to discredit NEM's distribution.

Either or, they need to be proven wrong or ignored.

The ones with multiple accounts will be the first to sell anyway and therefore distribute NEM even more! I submitted artwork and donated so wishfully hoping for two full servings of NEM please

Couldn't agree more. That's why I was actually relieved that the guy with (supposedly) 90 stakes was trying to sell them before launch.

It's also quite interesting that these large sockpuppeteers never seem to know exactly how many stakes they own. Bit odd...

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Quote from: TauMuon on March 24, 2014, 08:20:59 PM

I don't understand why people with multiple sockpuppets maliciously brag about the number of stakes they have. Why would they do it?

To satisfy some sort of egotistical attention-seeking craving.
To attempt to discredit NEM's distribution.

Either or, they need to be proven wrong or ignored.

The ones with multiple accounts will be the first to sell anyway and therefore distribute NEM even more! I submitted artwork and donated so wishfully hoping for two full servings of NEM please

TauMuon

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I don't understand why people with multiple sockpuppets maliciously brag about the number of stakes they have. Why would they do it?

To satisfy some sort of egotistical attention-seeking craving.
To attempt to discredit NEM's distribution.

Either or, they need to be proven wrong or ignored.

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 06:42:02 PM

Quote from: jkoil on March 24, 2014, 06:18:22 PM

Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

That is not possible, coz "I" means 1 and it is not equal to 25.
25 would require 25 people. Can you split into 25 persons?
Well, I doubt ... and think that your story is not true as you are not even interested in counting the exact number of "your accounts"

We should respect his words because he had 20 thousand Bitcoin when Bitcoin was 10 cent. He may even be Satoshi himself.

O' ... that would explain his/hers regardlessness of money and the amounts of money.

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Quote from: jkoil on March 24, 2014, 06:18:22 PM

Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

That is not possible, coz "I" means 1 and it is not equal to 25.
25 would require 25 people. Can you split into 25 persons?
Well, I doubt ... and think that your story is not true as you are not even interested in counting the exact number of "your accounts"

We should respect his words because he had 20 thousand Bitcoin when Bitcoin was 10 cent. He may even be Satoshi himself.

joninoakland

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I was browsing the NXT thread which I learned about after someone pointed out how to get a stake in NEM. In the NXT thread is a guy who has all the stats on those who forge. The distribution really isn't that wide. It drives home the complaint about NXT being true. (A few large stakeholders) So now we have guys showing up on here trying to discredit NEM by putting it under the same umbrella as NXT. It makes perfect sense as NEM is probably the biggest threat to NXT at the moment from what I see.

L-O-L internet.

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

That is not possible, coz "I" means 1 and it is not equal to 25.
25 would require 25 people. Can you split into 25 persons?
Well, I doubt ... and think that your story is not true as you are not even interested in counting the exact number of "your accounts"

utopianfuture

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Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 05:32:58 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

Prove it or it doesn't happen.

Why would I prove it, so you can delete all of my NEM accounts? No thanks. I'll just wait and collect all of my NEM. Don't worry about me though, I know a few other users that have way more.

So it doesn't happen.

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Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

Prove it or it doesn't happen.

Why would I prove it, so you can delete all of my NEM accounts? No thanks. I'll just wait and collect all of my NEM. Don't worry about me though, I know a few other users that have way more.

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Quote from: zanzibar on March 24, 2014, 04:05:59 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

Prove it or it doesn't happen.

zanzibar

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Quote from: utopianfuture on March 24, 2014, 07:00:43 AM

Quote from: bitsire on March 24, 2014, 06:52:24 AM

So just to confirm, regardless of whether you sent in a NXT donation or simply expressed your interest in NEM before the cutoff page, all initial stakeholders on the list will receive an equal portion of NEM correct?

Also, will it later be possible to purchase additional NEM before launch? I really believe in this project so if there is any way to increase one's holdings (ethically of course, I'm not talking sockpuppets or anything) then I would be all for it!

Yes, all stakeholders in the list will receive an equal amount of NEM. I will figure a way to allow trading before the official launch to increase the liquidity and and establish NEM value but it will only happens when the list is finalized after taking out refunding list and adding in the waiting list.

Thanks for your support. It is an open question on what kind of value NEM can reach upon trading starts.

That is great, I have about 25 NEM accounts, so I'll definitely be selling several of those, but probably keep about 15.

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Quote from: huzut66 on March 24, 2014, 02:01:00 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: sammart57 on March 24, 2014, 09:45:18 AM

also if my math is correct, if we were to hit ripple's marketcap of 1.2 billion.. it would make every NEM worth around $.30
now THAT would be insane. However I figure a $.01-$.04 value is reasonable/likely.
still it's nice to dream!

you are crazy!
1 share=5btc
NEM's marketcap will be 3000*5BTC=15k BTC
LOL

was?

5BTC nur für einen anteil? Huh

ich wollte damit in rente gehen und dachte da springen so 500-1000BTC bei rum. echt schlimm dann muss ich ja doch nor arbeiten. achso ich kann kein englisch wollte mich trotzdem mal beteiligen wer bock hat kann es übersetzen und wenn nicht benutzt den deutsch-englisch übersetzer den benutze ich auch oft genug in anderer form Grin

ansonsten wünsche ich euch noch nen schönen abend...und bleibt artig und macht mir keine schweinerein und net so viel am pc rumhacken , nimmt auch mal ne frau und vor allem mich net hacken sonst gibbet was auffe flosse

ich bin eine Italienische business woman, aber ich probiere english-italienish-english ubersetzen... English ist die International Sprache und wir mussen die intenational sprache sprechen!!!!!die Cripto welt ist mehere in english...don't worry!!! du bist nich alein....

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Quote from: patmast3r on March 24, 2014, 02:48:10 PM

Quote from: huzut66 on March 24, 2014, 02:01:00 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: sammart57 on March 24, 2014, 09:45:18 AM

also if my math is correct, if we were to hit ripple's marketcap of 1.2 billion.. it would make every NEM worth around $.30
now THAT would be insane. However I figure a $.01-$.04 value is reasonable/likely.
still it's nice to dream!

you are crazy!
1 share=5btc
NEM's marketcap will be 3000*5BTC=15k BTC
LOL

was?

5BTC nur für einen anteil? Huh

ich wollte damit in rente gehen und dachte da springen so 500-1000BTC bei rum. echt schlimm dann muss ich ja doch nor arbeiten. achso ich kann kein englisch wollte mich trotzdem mal beteiligen wer bock hat kann es übersetzen und wenn nicht benutzt den deutsch-englisch übersetzer den benutze ich auch oft genug in anderer form Grin

ansonsten wünsche ich euch noch nen schönen abend...und bleibt artig und macht mir keine schweinerein und net so viel am pc rumhacken , nimmt auch mal ne frau und vor allem mich net hacken sonst gibbet was auffe flosse

5 BTC sind ja nicht schlecht wenn du bedenkst wieviel du ursprünglich gezahlt hast Wink

for all the ones interested in what he was saying.

He was suprised about it only being 5 BTC because he wanted to retire with his stake and is afraid is going to have to keep working now

I told him that it's not bad considering what he originaly paid for his stake.

Paaaaaaaat, Man da war doch viel Ironie hinter hast du die nicht erkannt? Huh

Finde es nur lustig was hier manche für Vorstellungen haben erstmal heißt es sich zu beweisen und was zu haben was andere Schrott coins net haben dann kann es mal ein bissel nach oben gehen.mir wird nämlich von tag zu tag schlecher wenn ich sehe was für coins aus dem arsch von irgendjemand gekrochen kommen Cheesy

so ich meld mich mal im nem forum an aber ich quatsch nur in deutsch

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Quote from: gimre on March 24, 2014, 01:18:47 PM

Regarding different people talking about market cap and so on....

Sorry, to say, but I think some people here are waaay too optimistic.
I really don't want NEM to be artificially pumped, I want it to have some REAL value,
and to have any real value, you actually have to bring something valuable into the community.

And it'll have REAL VALUE only when people are willing to sell valuable things for NEM.

That can be really anything (I think initially simple things like):
t-shirts, stickers, mouse pads, mugs, SERVICES (i.e. hosting), applications, GAMES

or later goods like vegetables, plants, similarly to what like makoto imagined on trello http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=42.0

So now ask yourself, what can YOU bring to the community

besides constant talk about how great market cap NEM will have

That's true! On the one hand, I will love to see a huge increase in price that transform me in a couple of day in millionaire, without too much effort; but we known this is not going to happen. And if it is happen; it will be so transient that the crush will be observed at the same speed; without give the possibility to recover that money. And it will be the death sentence of NEM. We should provide as much close to the launch a way that maybe we first, as stakeholders can sell/buy stuffs and second, to progressively introduce new users. Some ideas will require time (e.g. food, fair trade) but something that I think could be easier is to open a page in which people can offer merchandises for a price in NEM. I am not a programmer but that is something that I don't think can be so difficult and it can help quite a lot. to provide solid ground to the currency. I think it is important that, once the stakeholder list is closed; we should show were are in this moment. WE can use google maps to geolocalize all the stakeholders in order to organize stakeholders clusters and markets around them. I think that is something that is also not so difficult and it can provide very valuable information about the geographical distribution of the coin and spread do we are

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Quote from: huzut66 on March 24, 2014, 02:01:00 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: sammart57 on March 24, 2014, 09:45:18 AM

also if my math is correct, if we were to hit ripple's marketcap of 1.2 billion.. it would make every NEM worth around $.30
now THAT would be insane. However I figure a $.01-$.04 value is reasonable/likely.
still it's nice to dream!

you are crazy!
1 share=5btc
NEM's marketcap will be 3000*5BTC=15k BTC
LOL

was?

5BTC nur für einen anteil? Huh

ich wollte damit in rente gehen und dachte da springen so 500-1000BTC bei rum. echt schlimm dann muss ich ja doch nor arbeiten. achso ich kann kein englisch wollte mich trotzdem mal beteiligen wer bock hat kann es übersetzen und wenn nicht benutzt den deutsch-englisch übersetzer den benutze ich auch oft genug in anderer form Grin

ansonsten wünsche ich euch noch nen schönen abend...und bleibt artig und macht mir keine schweinerein und net so viel am pc rumhacken , nimmt auch mal ne frau und vor allem mich net hacken sonst gibbet was auffe flosse

5 BTC sind ja nicht schlecht wenn du bedenkst wieviel du ursprünglich gezahlt hast Wink

for all the ones interested in what he was saying.

He was suprised about it only being 5 BTC because he wanted to retire with his stake and is afraid is going to have to keep working now

I told him that it's not bad considering what he originaly paid for his stake.

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Quote from: mladen00 on March 24, 2014, 01:12:25 AM

NEM will be good coin.
I can say it now because on there are so much angry haters.... and all they want is to discredit NEM

NEM is entirely fair!

NEM will be no.2 (BTC will be No1 4ever)

Value of NEM??
Marketcap will be 150.000,00 - 200.000,00BTC on first day on market.

and then up up up

Sounds very exciting, and I hope as you said,just a little bit a doubt about "Marketcap will be 150.000,00 - 200.000,00BTC on first day"

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