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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 278. (Read 661499 times)

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Quote from Hazard on Cryptolife



"Ever since coinvalidation was announced at the end of last year, it ignited a spark within the community to work on furthering anonymity within the bitcoin protocol. 3 months later, we have a few working samples. Do they actually solve the problem though? First, it might help to define what the problem is.

First off, there’s the issue of maintaining fungibility. Imagine going to the store and being told you can’t spend your money because at some point in the past, it was used in a drug deal. That’s exactly what the goal of coinvalidation is. Governments and other entities would be all over this sort of thing if it ever came to fruition, so it’s a very real threat. Since a currency can not functionally exist without fungibility, coinvalidation seeks to essentially destroy bitcoin in order to make a quick buck. To counter this threat, their data must be poisoned. This involves conducting transactions in such a way that sources and destinations of coins are muddied. "



Are we making sure NEM doesn't have to worry about this?

Is this already been talked about? Is this nothing to worry about? Anyone?

I'm not really worried either way.  TBH I really fail to see the point of trying to increase anonymity.  I get the logic for it, but also worry that it will hurt cryptocurrency's success and adoption over all.  For example the big MtGox heist gave crypto a bad reputation among the uneducated public that it must now fight to win back.  Whatever solution would really help NEM become an actual crytocurrency rather that just a crypto-commodity would be the best course in my opinion.

I don't really care about anonymity either. I just want to make sure it's not needed. Is what Hazard is talking about a possibility? Governments taking coins from people?
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Quote from Hazard on Cryptolife



"Ever since coinvalidation was announced at the end of last year, it ignited a spark within the community to work on furthering anonymity within the bitcoin protocol. 3 months later, we have a few working samples. Do they actually solve the problem though? First, it might help to define what the problem is.

First off, there’s the issue of maintaining fungibility. Imagine going to the store and being told you can’t spend your money because at some point in the past, it was used in a drug deal. That’s exactly what the goal of coinvalidation is. Governments and other entities would be all over this sort of thing if it ever came to fruition, so it’s a very real threat. Since a currency can not functionally exist without fungibility, coinvalidation seeks to essentially destroy bitcoin in order to make a quick buck. To counter this threat, their data must be poisoned. This involves conducting transactions in such a way that sources and destinations of coins are muddied. "



Are we making sure NEM doesn't have to worry about this?

Is this already been talked about? Is this nothing to worry about? Anyone?

I'm not really worried either way.  TBH I really fail to see the point of trying to increase anonymity.  I get the logic for it, but also worry that it will hurt cryptocurrency's success and adoption over all.  For example the big MtGox heist gave crypto a bad reputation among the uneducated public that it must now fight to win back.  Whatever solution would really help NEM become an actual crytocurrency rather that just a crypto-commodity would be the best course in my opinion.
sr. member
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electroneum.com
Quote from Hazard on Cryptolife



"Ever since coinvalidation was announced at the end of last year, it ignited a spark within the community to work on furthering anonymity within the bitcoin protocol. 3 months later, we have a few working samples. Do they actually solve the problem though? First, it might help to define what the problem is.

First off, there’s the issue of maintaining fungibility. Imagine going to the store and being told you can’t spend your money because at some point in the past, it was used in a drug deal. That’s exactly what the goal of coinvalidation is. Governments and other entities would be all over this sort of thing if it ever came to fruition, so it’s a very real threat. Since a currency can not functionally exist without fungibility, coinvalidation seeks to essentially destroy bitcoin in order to make a quick buck. To counter this threat, their data must be poisoned. This involves conducting transactions in such a way that sources and destinations of coins are muddied. "



Are we making sure NEM doesn't have to worry about this?

Is this already been talked about? Is this nothing to worry about? Anyone?
legendary
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how often is this updated https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0 ? I am not on there dispite my contribution:https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4886653
Thanks in advance!

Anyone have an answer to this Huh I did not get listed...

Maybe once in a day. For me it took over 24 hours ...

Still cant find my name on the list!?
See my contribution here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4886653

Change the tab at the bottom of document.
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how often is this updated https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0 ? I am not on there dispite my contribution:https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4886653
Thanks in advance!

Anyone have an answer to this Huh I did not get listed...

Maybe once in a day. For me it took over 24 hours ...

Still cant find my name on the list!?
See my contribution here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4886653
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legendary
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where can i see the shre holders list

There is link at the first page of this thread.
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where can i see the shre holders list
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... Getting tired about this discussion; better looking forward. According to UP's plan; today the contract, or other important news should be released. Am I OK?

I will be finishing refunding today. Development announcement will be at the end of this month 3/30. We will get pass the refunding discussion at that point.
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... Getting tired about this discussion; better looking forward. According to UP's plan; today the contract, or other important news should be released. Am I OK?
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i hope the discussion of the stakeholder list is ended in the near future so that we can talk about other things!

This will never end. It will become less obivous once we move to the official forum (go ahead and register now!) but it will never stop. That's just how the internet works.
sr. member
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i hope the discussion of the stakeholder list is ended in the near future so that we can talk about other things!
We should focus on how to make NEM become the most promising encryption currency!
I suggest that all shareholders are to  BTT made their own proposals, not silence. Let the NEM community more active, like the Doge community.
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i hope the discussion of the stakeholder list is ended in the near future so that we can talk about other things!

I share your opinion! NEM is such an amazing movement and we are part of that! We should do everything possible for its success, shouldn't we? Smiley
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i hope the discussion of the stakeholder list is ended in the near future so that we can talk about other things!
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Dear Dvictim watch this and your gripes will go away
http://www.country1011.com/2014/01/20/video-of-ottawa-woman-gone-viral/

Thanks for that Emill!! Thought provoking

Have we time to discuss about such things? I don't think so.
It would be better when we focus on NEM and stop discussion about unfairness etc.
In my view this area would be better for constructive suggestions.


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