Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 468. (Read 661525 times)

Yes it should depend on target audience. I am still tweaking the front page because I want perfection in wordings and represent exactly what NEM aspires to be. Suggestions welcome.

Yes slogans are good, lets do some brainstorming, also slogan could be mandatory for new accounts with 0 posts like mine is

as xtester says,
and that should certainly include people from outside the established crypto community. In any case you will need an intriguing slogan to hook their attention - one that makes people want to know more rather than tell them everything upfront.

A possibility could be:

Liberate your purchasing power with the New Economy Movement

Or

Do you want to liberate your purchasing power?

Or

Help liberate the purchasing power of the free world - Join the New Economy Movement today

One up is fine. My thought is that nemcoin.com could have more commercial potential, meanwhile nemcoin.info would focus on development updates. I actually have phase 3 media campaign  ; but it is secret ingredient for now.

Why do we even need 2 ?
Wouldn't it be better to have one which would also enable people to focus on making that one awesome instead of creating 2 potentially not as awesome ?

I am preparing the campaign. The first phase would be basic ads. The second phase would include feature articles in more popular newspapers, magazines etc. The campaign should kick off when Jaguar is done preparing timeline and more detail plan so that we could have some substances.

Right now, we already have reddit page and twitter presence. It would be nice if someone can prepare Youtube channels etc.
I want to have nemcoin.info and nemcoin.com up before the media campaign but that is not absolutely necessary.  

Nope, you don't need whole chain for security purposes.

Also 'normal' clients would also be part of the network.
They just wouldn't store whole history, only those snapshots + blockchain history since last snapshot till present.
Most people don't need whole history anyway (i.e. compare to btc, where download of whole the blockchain takes days if not weeks...)

When you would receive initial snapshot, there would be additional step of verification,
that the snapshot you've received is actually CORRECT one (there are number of ways this could be done),
to make sure the peers from which you've received it are not EVIL ones.

A reddit add may be quite beneficial. The reddit community as a whole is very familiar with the crypto-currency concepts, with the recent DOGE tipping craze and the huge communities devoted to individual cryptos there. Just something to consider!

Sounds awesome, keep up the good work!

When does this media campaign kick off? Is there anywhere I can read about it?

I am interested!!!!

Interesting thoughts.

But I have two questions...

Do I understand this correctly that the blockchain would only be stored on the "server version" of the client and not by every client ? I'm not sure that's a good idea. I don't know how people would feel about that and also doesn't that make the whole thing less secure especially in the beginning where fewer servers are running ? Say 10 servers are runnin initially. What if i whip up 20 VMs on my computer and make them servers....could I then not controll the network ? Not to mention that if the client doesn't hold the blockchain mim attackes could to a crapload of damage especially if coordinated well.

What's the point of having outdated snapshots in the client ? So the update from the DBs won't take as long ?

I do like the "return of the wallets". Brainwallets have me so paranoid that I check my balance everyday.

@Jaguar and Theis. Some thoughts from a friend.

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There are things that I don’t like about NXT or that I think could be done differently.

1. Storing whole blockchain in memory.
    imo, “app” should be split into 3 parts:
    1.  server, storing blockchain and all related info in DB - this one would be used for all the SERIOUS stuff (so exchages, faucets, and any other apps like that would run this)
    2.  lightweight IN-BROWSER client - I think CfB has similar idea - that one, would have ZERO knowledge itself it, but I think it’d be possible to do whole singing in-browser.
    3.  ‘normal’ client - for users, that want to participate in the network, but don’t want to deal with DB setup. This one would keep blockchain in memory, BUT it would rely on “snapshots”
               a. snapshot would be created every X days (I was thinking about X=10)
               b. they would contain information about state (of accounts), but would drop all the history
               c. snapshots (for new clients) could be propagated in torrent-like fashion.

2.  TPS rate. I’ve seen somewhere info, that Nxt could handle 100_000 TPS. I have some doubts about it. (current hardcoded limit for tx in block is 255, that would imply ~400 BLOCKS per sec).
     I think software, should be thought upfront to handle large amount of transactions per second. (so for sure, somewhere “in future” there should be switch to binary protocol, also it might be beneficial  to use UDP to propagate information).  what do you think about GHOST?
     Also I got interesting idea, but I’m not sure how it would work in practice...

3.   Lack of Wallet. People simply got used to this. I don’t think generating Secret Key by doing SHA on a string (like Nxt is doing currently) is a good idea.

4.   Curve. You’ve already written, you’d like to switch to Ed, so I guess you think the same.

A.   Server as a servlet - I think this is good choice for initial implementation (before adding binary protocol, also servlet, would still be needed if one would like to have IN-BROWSER client). But I’d change one simple (and quite obvious) thing: instead of embedding type of query in json, It should be in URL itself.
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I agree, but the problem is that if I have a million NEM, I could open up 1,000,000 NEM wallet and put 1 NEM in each and receive 99,999,999 more share of the fee than everyone else. I don't see how we could get around that a side from rigid account control or minimum balance, but even then, people would find way around that.

I think the most frustrating part of NXT for small account was to see the next block could be forged in 325 days 12h 22min. I didn't look at the NXT code yet, so I don't know if this is possible, but if we could introduce fraction, we could pay divide the fee amongst all NEM user based on the ratio of money the have.

So, i we divide 1/4,000,000,000 we get 0.00000000025. This mean that for each NEM of fee, every user would receive 0.00000000025 NEM for each NEM they own. If we decide that the smallest unit is 0.00000001 NEM, we would then have to wait until 40 NEM in fee has been collected before distributing 0.00000001 NEM to everyone for every  NEM that they own.

Anyway, just an idea 

Cheers

cryptocoinsnews.com is rapidly growing and even has it's own investment club. I think that would be worth checking out !

Update: to counter spammers who take up spaces of legitimate NEM stakeholders. I made a new moderated registration thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nem-4-billion-coins-equal-shares-for-all-registration-thread-part-2-440185.

Please update our reddit and twitter page accordingly. This discussion thread will not be moderated and we welcome legitimate questions and concerns.

Stay tuned for our first ad and a flock of newcomers. I also added Paypal option in the new registration thread. I will personally handle these fiat transactions myself until someone else is willing to help.

you can run as many as you wish, on 1 computer.

I am an absolute noob so excuse me if I am wrong but ...
Wouldn't one have to run several machines to have several accounts, or can you run e.g. 50 accounts on one computer?

Hey,

Done more logo sketches, tried to get some anarchy theme to these. Hope you like it.

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I think the answer should be based on what kind of people you are looking for and which of the options you mentioned has most readers.

Edit: Do you need to choose only one option? Maybe one option like Coindesk or bitcoin magazine would do the trick for the people who are already in the crypto community while an option like forbes or business insider would carry the message to the people who are new to this kind of things. I think both would be important.