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Iota and JINN
Any update on when the auction begins?

update 5/19: NEM public auction explanation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6821199



Friend! Why not to buy NEM stake on NXT asset exchange? Now, it is just about 20000 NXT, believe me -this is very good price. Wink

Cheers.
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Any update on when the auction begins?

update 5/19: NEM public auction explanation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6821199

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I dont think wrong about people selling stake. Not everyone is selling whole stake also. I believe there are many people from less fortunate countries on boards too. They got their stake for few dollars and now it is 800 dollars, so finally there are possibilities for them to diversify their portfolio. Also we dont really know how will development of NEM go, but situation for NXT is very positive. NXT can be 1 dollar in year and in some countries for 20 000 dollars you can buy your own hous.
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jop so meinte ich das

dann scheint mir 1 dollar pro nxt möglich zu sein, jedoch zb 10 dollar nicht ganz so realistisch
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Glaubst nicht wenn NXT so richtig durchstartet dass er auch weitaus höher als 1 dollar steigen kann.
Lässt sich eigentlich irgendwie errechnen welchen Kurs NXT maximal erreichen kann?

Warum ist dark bei 11dollar und nxt bei 0,058 obwohl bei nxt das Marketcap höher ist? Kommt das wegen deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?





999,997,096 NXT(available supply)    x    $ 0.057996 (trading price)     =    $ 57,995,749  (market cap)    

4,346,249 DRK(available supply)       x     $11,24 (trading price)          =     $ 48,836,104  (market cap)

verstanden?



Danke verstanden

999,997,096 NXT(available supply)  / $ 322,919,410 (momentan Litecoin)  =  $ 3,09673

richtig



meinst wohl eher anders herum $ 322,919,410(ltc cap) / 999,997,096 NXT (menge) = $0.32292034776 (preis bei gleicher market cap wie ltc)

bei 3$ wäre die market cap bei 3 milliarden ($3x1milliarden coin) klingt logisch oder Cheesy
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Glaubst nicht wenn NXT so richtig durchstartet dass er auch weitaus höher als 1 dollar steigen kann.
Lässt sich eigentlich irgendwie errechnen welchen Kurs NXT maximal erreichen kann?

Warum ist dark bei 11dollar und nxt bei 0,058 obwohl bei nxt das Marketcap höher ist? Kommt das wegen deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?





999,997,096 NXT(available supply)    x    $ 0.057996 (trading price)     =    $ 57,995,749  (market cap)    

4,346,249 DRK(available supply)       x     $11,24 (trading price)          =     $ 48,836,104  (market cap)

verstanden?

Danke verstanden

 $ 322,919,410 (momentan Litecoin) / 999,997,096 NXT(available supply)  =  $ 0,309673

richtig

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Glaubst nicht wenn NXT so richtig durchstartet dass er auch weitaus höher als 1 dollar steigen kann.
Lässt sich eigentlich irgendwie errechnen welchen Kurs NXT maximal erreichen kann?

Warum ist dark bei 11dollar und nxt bei 0,058 obwohl bei nxt das Marketcap höher ist? Kommt das wegen deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?





999,997,096 NXT(available supply)    x    $ 0.057996 (trading price)     =    $ 57,995,749  (market cap)    

4,346,249 DRK(available supply)       x     $11,24 (trading price)          =     $ 48,836,104  (market cap)

verstanden?
edit: es liegt einfach an der Menge der Coins. Was meinst du mit maximal erreichen kann? Preise haben keine Maximalgrenze. Hätte NXT eine market cap wie btc (ca 8 milliarden) wäre der preis für 1 nxt $8. Was meinst du mit deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?
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Buy more NEM before its launch
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NXT is GREAT. This is the Point

But NEM is also GREAT!

I hold my NXT for 1 Year and my NEM Stake also for 1 Year i think!

I think in a few Year NEM or NXT have the potential to displace Bitcoin.

Also: chuki is a HODLER and will never sold his NEM stake bevor 2016!

Good Day

+1 i say it to you i have a big ammount of nxt . I will not be nervous at a breakout of + 50% I am a holder.
$ 1 is the target. But NEM has indeed time to achieve what Nxt has created so far.

+111 I bought much NXT as well and in the mean time I have one stake NEM. Will buy more NEM after its launch.
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Glaubst nicht wenn NXT so richtig durchstartet dass er auch weitaus höher als 1 dollar steigen kann.
Lässt sich eigentlich irgendwie errechnen welchen Kurs NXT maximal erreichen kann?

Warum ist dark bei 11dollar und nxt bei 0,058 obwohl bei nxt das Marketcap höher ist? Kommt das wegen deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?





Es gibt 1 000 000 000 NXT und nur 20 000 000 DRK.
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I'm a stakeholder and after getting into btc again because the next bubble is about to form I thought I would check up on how NEM is doing.

And I must say ... WOW! I'm blown away!

So awesome  to see such great progress and I think NEM has a very bright future in front of it!
I will definitely not sell a single NEM for atleast a few years, you can count on that!

I'm very excited about what the future holds!
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Hi guys,

last weeks I was pretty excited about the things we can do with crypto currencies. I heard of decentralized search engine, messaging, twitter, etc.
My brain did start to work (it is usually in stand-by  Wink), I could think of nothing else but this opportunities we get with cryptos!
I thought about how to include a data transfer, or messaging service completely independend on any centralized server.

I do not like the Whatsapp approach - Facebook/Whatsapp takes all my info including copyright of photos etc. that I send with Whatsapp!!! Angry plus, they take all the profits etc.
Why not having full privacy (encryption end2end) and give the rewards back to the people using/hosting those services?

You might think: This feature is already build into NXT (and other cryptos), but also read the comments about the differences.
Also NXTTY shall provide messaging services based on NXT, but they still use their own software even though it shall be open sourced one day, but this is also not a core feature build into nodes.

So here is a proposal for a crypto-feature which allows end2end data transfer which could be used for messaging.

I called the feature end2end small data transfer, it might be already available in another form in another crypto currency already, if so, please comment.
Please, also free to comment if you like/dislike and point to any things that are incorrect, possible to implement, I have overseen and so on.
This is just a rough brainstorming, I am not a dev, nor crypto specialist.

Thanks,
rock3t



end2end small data transfer
What shall this be?
A node feature that provides encrypted end2end data transfer between clients, but the data (limited to a specified amount like 5mb or so) shall not be part of the main blockchain.
Data shall be transferred end2end securely, is being deleted after a specified timeframe (e.g. 48h or 1 week) and only exists on a few NEM nodes, not the whole NEM backbone.

Why would that be useful?
To provide services like a secure, decentralized messaging service. To submit data securely, independent of any other decentralized services.
The build-in feature in e.g. NXT provide already messaging, the price is currently at 1 NXT. Way too high and to complicated for "normal" all day users.
There is no possibility to reach the masses (like with whatsapp).
Apply like Nxtty still need their own central server software, but how cool would it be to provide the network which is independent to the messaging clients (iPhone, Android, Linux, Win, ...)?

What would be different from current implementations (like NXT)?
The current (and planned) implementations for e.g. NXT is too complicated for normal users. You definitively need a NXT client, NXT account, some NXT and a basic understanding of how NXT works. (I think this will be similar for NEM).
What users would need is an APP to download and start messaging. The client provides conversion to an ID, payment etc.
The blockchain would not allow for huge data stored in the main blockchain. Keep in mind that the blockchain goes out to every client.

How would that look in detail on the nodes?
A technology is needed to provide data transfer end2end without(!) the main blockchain and this data shall not be present to all nodes, but only to a few which are needed to store and forward the data securely (encrypted with the public key, decrypted with the private key).
Therefore sender and receiver must be identified, one or more nodes close to the sender must accept the data from the client, and once the receiver is online, one or more redundant paths with reliable nodes must be calculated by the network nodes (kind of a routing algorithm), so that data can be stored and forwarded on this path and data transmission also works if one or more nodes fail.
After the data is transmitted to receiver, the receiver confirms and the nodes are informed so the data can be deleted from nodes to free up resources.
Maybe there is already some kind of P2P technology/algorithm which can also be used for this kind of transmission.

How would the payment look like for clients and rewards for the nodes?
Whenever a message is delivered, a fee must be taken. Why? Because, if this end2end data service provides interfaces, those interfaces must be secured not to be flooded or DoS attacked. However, this fee must be so low that clients can start messaging without(!) buying any coins (too complicated).
I was not able to fully think about a payment/reward system, so this is tbd.

If all good/bad APP devs can use those data features, how to prevent from SCAM & hackers?
A voting system is needed to upvote/downvote/ignore unwanted data/message transfer and accounts.
Also it must be ensured that not only clients are able to up/downvote for other clients (could also be manipulated as clients cannot be trusted), but also the nodes can identify a trust level of the different clients and/or accounts.
sr. member
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Iota and JINN
I think most of the people who are selling their NEM stakes are desperate for money. That means they are probably immediately cashing in their Nxt when they get it. I would attribute the price rise in Nxt to speculation based on reports of impending big announcements.

Absolutely agree with You, they need money. It's pity that, like I see, We have(hopefuly, now can say had) so many people in community, desperating for money... Undecided

Edit: I should say: as strong desperating for little  money... Undecided
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Glaubst nicht wenn NXT so richtig durchstartet dass er auch weitaus höher als 1 dollar steigen kann.
Lässt sich eigentlich irgendwie errechnen welchen Kurs NXT maximal erreichen kann?

Warum ist dark bei 11dollar und nxt bei 0,058 obwohl bei nxt das Marketcap höher ist? Kommt das wegen deproduzierbaren gesamtmenge der coins?



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NXT is GREAT. This is the Point

But NEM is also GREAT!

I hold my NXT for 1 Year and my NEM Stake also for 1 Year i think!

I think in a few Year NEM or NXT have the potential to displace Bitcoin.

Also: chuki is a HODLER and will never sold his NEM stake bevor 2016!

Good Day

+1 i say it to you i have a big ammount of nxt . I will not be nervous at a breakout of + 50% I am a holder.
$ 1 is the target. But NEM has indeed time to achieve what Nxt has created so far.
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NXT is GREAT. This is the Point

But NEM is also GREAT!

I hold my NXT for 1 Year and my NEM Stake also for 1 Year i think!

I think in a few Year NEM or NXT have the potential to displace Bitcoin.

Also: chuki is a HODLER and will never sold his NEM stake bevor 2016!

Good Day
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ive followed nxt price for a long time, im pretty sure nem def has something to do with the price rise, im not saying its the only reason, but nxt has only done 110,000 volume the past 24 hours and its risen 12%, what did nem do $50,000 volume the first day, easy math says its plausible.


the last major run up was caused by being at a conference where they made a huge amount of contacts and many many people were interested greatly by nxt.. there is currently guys at another conference now(today and tomrrow i think.. not literally right now lol) and the payexpo is coming up (nxt is the only coin going to be there.. dont even think btc is going to be there, could be wrong. there is also 3 major major announcements to be made..(pre ann today) a huge amount of excitement and many nxt guys bought more.. one devs interveiw was also on letstalkbitcoin today i think actually. nem may have played a part.. but its far from the main cause!

also this: https://nxtforum.org/central-europe-bitcoin-expo-(vienna-may-31-2014)/day-1/msg32930/#msg32930

if you look to the comments bellow he also states that is "confirmed"

what i take from this is that nxt may become listed on the exchange that he is talking about.. if its huobi... shit.. thats guna be SICK!!!! so ya i dont think its nem lol

it is Huobi  Wink the CEO of Huobi in person is in vienna  Wink

What does this mean? Nxt to rise or not?

rise? hold you tight. nxt is on the jump to second place.

people, I have to disappoint you. NEM has nothing to do with the increase.
Nxt is simply great.
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ive followed nxt price for a long time, im pretty sure nem def has something to do with the price rise, im not saying its the only reason, but nxt has only done 110,000 volume the past 24 hours and its risen 12%, what did nem do $50,000 volume the first day, easy math says its plausible.


the last major run up was caused by being at a conference where they made a huge amount of contacts and many many people were interested greatly by nxt.. there is currently guys at another conference now(today and tomrrow i think.. not literally right now lol) and the payexpo is coming up (nxt is the only coin going to be there.. dont even think btc is going to be there, could be wrong. there is also 3 major major announcements to be made..(pre ann today) a huge amount of excitement and many nxt guys bought more.. one devs interveiw was also on letstalkbitcoin today i think actually. nem may have played a part.. but its far from the main cause!

also this: https://nxtforum.org/central-europe-bitcoin-expo-(vienna-may-31-2014)/day-1/msg32930/#msg32930

if you look to the comments bellow he also states that is "confirmed"

what i take from this is that nxt may become listed on the exchange that he is talking about.. if its huobi... shit.. thats guna be SICK!!!! so ya i dont think its nem lol

it is Huobi  Wink the CEO of Huobi in person is in vienna  Wink

What does this mean? Nxt to rise or not?
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ive followed nxt price for a long time, im pretty sure nem def has something to do with the price rise, im not saying its the only reason, but nxt has only done 110,000 volume the past 24 hours and its risen 12%, what did nem do $50,000 volume the first day, easy math says its plausible.


the last major run up was caused by being at a conference where they made a huge amount of contacts and many many people were interested greatly by nxt.. there is currently guys at another conference now(today and tomrrow i think.. not literally right now lol) and the payexpo is coming up (nxt is the only coin going to be there.. dont even think btc is going to be there, could be wrong. there is also 3 major major announcements to be made..(pre ann today) a huge amount of excitement and many nxt guys bought more.. one devs interveiw was also on letstalkbitcoin today i think actually. nem may have played a part.. but its far from the main cause!

also this: https://nxtforum.org/central-europe-bitcoin-expo-(vienna-may-31-2014)/day-1/msg32930/#msg32930

if you look to the comments bellow he also states that is "confirmed"

what i take from this is that nxt may become listed on the exchange that he is talking about.. if its huobi... shit.. thats guna be SICK!!!! so ya i dont think its nem lol

it is Huobi  Wink the CEO of Huobi in person is in vienna  Wink
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Internet of Value
Hi guys, I have some ideas for new possible NEM features, but I don't know where to discuss.
What place would you prefer and where are devs reading?

Bitcointalk this thread, bitcointalk new thread, reddit or NEMforum (looks very quite up to know Sad)?

I make NEM-ecosystem board public https://trello.com/b/9psFZ0aQ/nem-ecosystem. You can see couple of things in progress in real-time

Developers are welcomed to join in. We will push the board to the next gear after open Alpha.

@rock3tm4n: if you have a general possible feature, you can write here since this thread is currently the information hub and all dev. check it frequently. I will bring ideas that can be done in the near future to promotion and eco-system boards.
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