I am glad that I can get more NEM stake 
Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 52. (Read 661498 times)
June 02, 2014, 05:04:21 AM
The current price I will only consider buying rather than sell I am glad that I can get more NEM stake
I am glad that I can get more NEM stake June 02, 2014, 05:03:29 AM
If the price decline more. i will looking to buy another one 
Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch
. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low
This is speculation, some people to suppress the price is for the convenience of buying. The prices are high or low, but the NEM general trend is upward,to be patience Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch
. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low June 02, 2014, 04:53:21 AM
If the price decline more. i will looking to buy another one
Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low
Are they really idiots?Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch
. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low What if NXT doubles / triples in price the coming months? That's not unthinkable.
They already made a 10,000% ROI on their stake and then doubled / tripled that through Nxt. Not to shabby if you ask me.
And, it gives others an opportunity to buy an extra or new stake.
June 02, 2014, 04:31:41 AM
If the price decline more. i will looking to buy another one
Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low
Ths AE thing is a great way to get rid of weak hands before the actual launch
. Im laughing at these idiots selling at this low 
June 02, 2014, 04:29:04 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Just wait for the alpha release. No doubt that we will see surge in price
It is to be expected some sock puppets snuck in and are dumping. But for the rest of us that are serious, we won't dump. In a short while, I think it will balance off, but it will probably go down a little more.
In the long run, it won't really have mattered that much what you bought at. If you buy at 40,000 or 5,000, it is still going to go up so high.
Sooner or later, if it gets cheap enough, people like myself who already own one, might just buy another.
Me too. I'm now also starting to feel tempted to buy one more stake. I'm looking to see how low will it go and then make my decision.
@howi53
You can always buy more when the price hits lower so that you balance your buying price.
What I mean: If I buy a stake at 50000 and then price falls to 10000 and I buy another one it is like I bought 2 for the price of 30000. It feels better than having bought 1 for 50000 :-)
But anyway, I'm glad you are with us. We and NEM needs honest, devoted members and stake holders. Welcome aboard and don't feel sad about anything. It is all very volatile now and I remember when I first heard about the NXT - it was right after they released it and I felt very sad because I didn't see the IPO thread. I was buying at the price WAY WAY higher than initial investors put in, but now, today, I'm extremely HAPPY I bought so much I have bought.
NEM has a great community in the making and as I read and follow posts from the leaders of this project my confidence in them is growing also. Go NEM! :-D
June 02, 2014, 03:57:00 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Just wait for the alpha release. No doubt that we will see surge in price
It is to be expected some sock puppets snuck in and are dumping. But for the rest of us that are serious, we won't dump. In a short while, I think it will balance off, but it will probably go down a little more.
In the long run, it won't really have mattered that much what you bought at. If you buy at 40,000 or 5,000, it is still going to go up so high.
Sooner or later, if it gets cheap enough, people like myself who already own one, might just buy another.
June 02, 2014, 03:52:53 AM
Some people have been working on making multisig on an account so when a person sends, they have to have their key, and then use a service (with google authenticator) to release another to key that allows funds to be sent. This isn't using google authentication in the blockchain, but with multi-sig, it is more or less the same thing.
You do not understand how crypto currency work. It's a decentralized system where you sign a transaction with a private key. Other people (all decentralized) can verify the signature by confirming that that public key owner signed the transaction.
There is no place for a "google authentication" or any centralized third party to verify anything.
You cannot have "google authentication" with Nxt
It's not a Gmail. It's not an exchange or online bank account where other server/person has control.
June 02, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
Hi all Nemster, we have 2800 stakeholders. Some are sockpuppets. Some are selling at the first chance they have. But if you decide to stay for a while longer, then let's work to build an awesome community. Let's make NEM a place everyone wants to join in and build up the value of the brand. I am sure we can do that if we work together: developers, writer, marketer, translators, photographers, lawyers, etc. all are welcomed.
I prepared a survey that could help with the planning of marketing and ecosystem infrastructure for NEM and if you decide to stay and help, please fill it out.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b_8enfEjlP_NtCXlYhUUvcIEgEyhtwgroK9EdWa2vBc/viewform?usp=send_form
This is different from the Swarm list managed by Erkki12. This will be used for a comprehensive strategy that never be seen in the crypto world. (serious).
I prepared a survey that could help with the planning of marketing and ecosystem infrastructure for NEM and if you decide to stay and help, please fill it out.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b_8enfEjlP_NtCXlYhUUvcIEgEyhtwgroK9EdWa2vBc/viewform?usp=send_form
This is different from the Swarm list managed by Erkki12. This will be used for a comprehensive strategy that never be seen in the crypto world. (serious).
Good work @utopianfuture. We should make NEM too good to be ignored. Lets do this.
I have also seen people selling and figure they must be sock puppets or desperate for money.
Once this wave is over with, hopefully there will not be that many more.
June 02, 2014, 03:46:30 AM
About NEM wallet logon security, I suggest just like blockchain Wallet：
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember
1、Wallet ID code
2、Password
3、Google Authenticator
Rather than NXT Wallet, only a secret phrase,Although very long, dozens of character。
In addition, It is easy to remember
Someone already stated that it is very hard to use google authenticator for a blockchain, if not impossible.
The point being, you can block a login to a centralised service with GA, but not a static login like a privat key.
Yes, google authenticator is nice. But you can't use it with wallets. You can only use it with services!
Some people have been working on making multisig on an account so when a person sends, they have to have their key, and then use a service (with google authenticator) to release another to key that allows funds to be sent. This isn't using google authentication in the blockchain, but with multi-sig, it is more or less the same thing.
I love google authenticator myself. Everytime I use a service with it, I feel a lot safer.
In NXT, a very long pass phrase is just as good or even better than a user ID and password. If they just allow multisig and 2FA, then it is good to go to me.
That type of thing would be hard to include in the beta of NEM, but hopefully later on it could happen.
June 02, 2014, 03:43:33 AM
I almost had a heart attack!!! a few minutes ago I logged in to my next wallet using the security phrase and by my surprise I did have a different ID code and my next and nem stake was not there, it was like a new account and I said....WHERE IS MY PRECIOUS NEM STAKE??? I was panicking not knowing what to do, I said this is a nightmare! I decided to log out and log in using the same security phrase again and this time thanks to GOD the right ID code and my Precious Stake was there!!! did someone experience this?
If you mistype password that will happen. If you are copying and pasting password from notepad I heard sometimes it adds extra space in the beginning or end. Use password managers. They are secure and encrypt your passwords locally. The master password for password manager doesn't have to be as long as Nxt password. Just any 10 to 12 char password will be fine. There is Keypass. I use Lastpass https://lastpass.com/
Better security. It can be better, but is it good enough?
During the last 12 months security, leaks and cracks have been in the news and raised many questions. When also crypto money has increased, it will attract many crackers, to install , in a way or another, their software to your PC's and smart phones. Will it be easy to collect people's passwords? Yes it will.
Another point of view lies in these
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-security-questions.html#security-against-nsa
http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/12/how-does-nsa-break-ssl.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/03/can_the_nsa_bre.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1k1dug/til_the_inventor_of_pgp_pretty_good_privacy_was/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/14/nsa-proof-encryption-exists-why-doesnt-anyone-use-it/
http://www.coinweek.com/featured-news/bitcoin-vs-government-issued-fiat-money/
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/indiana-state-government-warns-bitcoin-investors/2014/05/14
If there will be a war between cryptos and fiat, it may be a secret war, because it is not a good sign if governments try to strike people's attempts to freedom. The war will be executed secretly, behind the scenes. An easy way will be to crack some cryptos or make people feel unsecure with their savings.
And passwords
June 02, 2014, 03:34:28 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Volume continues to go up. It appears it's people dumping their stakes. This was vaguely expected, considering what people reserved their stakes for, but they'll be gone a lot quicker than say a hypothetical whale who controls a large percentage of a coin and is dumping it no matter what damage it may bring.
June 02, 2014, 03:32:35 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Just wait for the alpha release. No doubt that we will see surge in price
June 02, 2014, 03:29:56 AM
As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.
We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
I could translate to Dutch. We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
June 02, 2014, 03:25:52 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Being the first when there is so much anticipation is always a bad idea...I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
Think of it this way: you saved some other poor soul a lot of NXT
j/k at least you are in NEM now and it will be worth your while!
June 02, 2014, 03:08:07 AM
it's a disappointing experience to see that against all expectations of thread members, the price of nemstakes (AE) is steadily decreasing.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
I was one of the first buyers and now I have to suffer from my greed.
June 02, 2014, 02:54:20 AM
Hi NEM community,
i quietly follow cryptos for a while and i feel NEM has a high potential to become something big. I guess beside getting a high marketcap it should be our goal to attract more people to NEM. Therefore i prepared a draft of a "bitcoin-paper-wallet" like NEM voucher.
As we have no logo yet it is just a first draft and i will finalize it later.
I am going to print such vouchers, preload them with ~100NEM and bring them into public. I will give them to friends, "forget" them in favorite restaurants, pin them to a black board, give them to people that have nothing to do with cryptos at all etc.
Maybe i will add a "valid until" date an reclaim back all NEM that have not been redeemed within a year or so to be sure that no NEM will be lost in space.
If every stakeholder releases just 10 of this vouchers we can easily reach ~30000 additional people and bring them into NEM.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t59yx73tyw4pgav/NEM_Voucher1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/noeultctxi384ig/Printed.jpg
I would like to know if there will be an "import private key" function in the NEM community client and how to create a NEM address key pair for the voucher? Is the proposal for a NEM from the initial development plan still valid and will we use "standard base32" encoded addresses? Maybe the devs can help me with my questions?
Thank you all for your hard work in NEM!
i quietly follow cryptos for a while and i feel NEM has a high potential to become something big. I guess beside getting a high marketcap it should be our goal to attract more people to NEM. Therefore i prepared a draft of a "bitcoin-paper-wallet" like NEM voucher.
As we have no logo yet it is just a first draft and i will finalize it later.
I am going to print such vouchers, preload them with ~100NEM and bring them into public. I will give them to friends, "forget" them in favorite restaurants, pin them to a black board, give them to people that have nothing to do with cryptos at all etc.
Maybe i will add a "valid until" date an reclaim back all NEM that have not been redeemed within a year or so to be sure that no NEM will be lost in space.
If every stakeholder releases just 10 of this vouchers we can easily reach ~30000 additional people and bring them into NEM.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t59yx73tyw4pgav/NEM_Voucher1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/noeultctxi384ig/Printed.jpg
I would like to know if there will be an "import private key" function in the NEM community client and how to create a NEM address key pair for the voucher? Is the proposal for a NEM from the initial development plan still valid and will we use "standard base32" encoded addresses? Maybe the devs can help me with my questions?
Thank you all for your hard work in NEM!
This is Fantastic idea! We need to have this vouchers and exactly in many languages(at least 4 : EN, DE,FR,RU)
Thank You Dear friend for Great Idea!
It's wonderfull! I'm in!!!
June 02, 2014, 02:52:57 AM
Is there any place I can find the source code for the NEM project?
June 02, 2014, 02:52:35 AM
As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.
We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
I can help with italian and german if you need
June 02, 2014, 02:51:29 AM
As a note, for the ecosystem sites (like the blockchain explorer), we are planning to support multiple languages at the beginning, like English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese.
We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
We need someone good at French and Spanish right now.
If anyone wants more languages, then please volunteer to help translate. I'd really love to get Russian, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Thai, Bhutanese, and Nepalese there as well.
Hi! I and other Russian participants want to help with translation into Russian. What we need to do?
June 02, 2014, 02:42:04 AM
Hi NEM community,
i quietly follow cryptos for a while and i feel NEM has a high potential to become something big. I guess beside getting a high marketcap it should be our goal to attract more people to NEM. Therefore i prepared a draft of a "bitcoin-paper-wallet" like NEM voucher.
As we have no logo yet it is just a first draft and i will finalize it later.
I am going to print such vouchers, preload them with ~100NEM and bring them into public. I will give them to friends, "forget" them in favorite restaurants, pin them to a black board, give them to people that have nothing to do with cryptos at all etc.
Maybe i will add a "valid until" date an reclaim back all NEM that have not been redeemed within a year or so to be sure that no NEM will be lost in space.
If every stakeholder releases just 10 of this vouchers we can easily reach ~30000 additional people and bring them into NEM.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t59yx73tyw4pgav/NEM_Voucher1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/noeultctxi384ig/Printed.jpg
I would like to know if there will be an "import private key" function in the NEM community client and how to create a NEM address key pair for the voucher? Is the proposal for a NEM from the initial development plan still valid and will we use "standard base32" encoded addresses? Maybe the devs can help me with my questions?
Thank you all for your hard work in NEM!
i quietly follow cryptos for a while and i feel NEM has a high potential to become something big. I guess beside getting a high marketcap it should be our goal to attract more people to NEM. Therefore i prepared a draft of a "bitcoin-paper-wallet" like NEM voucher.
As we have no logo yet it is just a first draft and i will finalize it later.
I am going to print such vouchers, preload them with ~100NEM and bring them into public. I will give them to friends, "forget" them in favorite restaurants, pin them to a black board, give them to people that have nothing to do with cryptos at all etc.
Maybe i will add a "valid until" date an reclaim back all NEM that have not been redeemed within a year or so to be sure that no NEM will be lost in space.
If every stakeholder releases just 10 of this vouchers we can easily reach ~30000 additional people and bring them into NEM.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t59yx73tyw4pgav/NEM_Voucher1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/noeultctxi384ig/Printed.jpg
I would like to know if there will be an "import private key" function in the NEM community client and how to create a NEM address key pair for the voucher? Is the proposal for a NEM from the initial development plan still valid and will we use "standard base32" encoded addresses? Maybe the devs can help me with my questions?
Thank you all for your hard work in NEM!
This is Fantastic idea! We need to have this vouchers and exactly in many languages(at least 4 : EN, DE,FR,RU)
Thank You Dear friend for Great Idea!
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