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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 97. (Read 661498 times)

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Good, u aint so tough headed Cheesy   U still have some arrogant tautology, but the road is open to grow. After that u could create to urself some other missions than messaging in this forum Cheesy

Ok, that's enough of this nonsense. Nothing there to "notice"

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newbie
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legendary
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mining is so 2012-2013
Okay I am going to put out a teaser so everyone calms down a bit https://googledrive.com/host/0Bwfe5MzvbH9wc1ZkSGFUYjN6QnM/dashboard.html

Note: design has been improved so it would not be exactly the same (this is 1 and half month old version) ; in Alpha release all advanced functionality will be disabled.

It is looking nice and clean  Grin
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If you read your message, you realize that your writing style is so "personal" that every hecks member notices it Smiley   \
Good to hear that you remember everything I say. Mission accomplished

WTH?  Smiley  
No reason to fatuity. Maybe u shud read again with better understanding.
"Remember" is not the same as "notice". Maybe ur comments are noticed but categorized to some other than "important - remember this!" Cheesy

If it makes you happier, I will rephrase it:
Good to hear that you notice everything I say. Mission accomplished

Good, u aint so tough headed Cheesy   U still have some arrogant tautology, but the road is open to grow. After that u could create to urself some other missions than messaging in this forum Cheesy
legendary
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If you read your message, you realize that your writing style is so "personal" that every hecks member notices it Smiley   \

Good to hear that you remember everything I say. Mission accomplished


WTH?  Smiley  
No reason to fatuity. Maybe u shud read again with better understanding.
"Remember" is not the same as "notice". Maybe ur comments are noticed but categorized to some other than "important - remember this!" Cheesy


If it makes you happier, I will rephrase it:

Good to hear that you notice everything I say. Mission accomplished



member
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If you read your message, you realize that your writing style is so "personal" that every hecks member notices it Smiley   \

Good to hear that you remember everything I say. Mission accomplished


WTH?  Smiley  
No reason to fatuity. Maybe u shud read again with better understanding.
"Remember" is not the same as "notice". Maybe ur comments are noticed but categorized to some other than "important - remember this!" Cheesy

hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500

If you read your message, you realize that your writing style is so "personal" that every hecks member notices it Smiley   \

Good to hear that you remember everything I say. Mission accomplished

hero member
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People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


By the way, the first 20 pages were free giveaway. They don't even have a wallet to prove anything

2Kool belonged to that group


Yeah, well - we can't work around everything. It was clearly stated that btt accounts would be necessary to claim stakes.
It sucks for the people that are affected and were excited about NEM but there's really not much we can do.
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People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


By the way, the first 20 pages were free giveaway. They don't even have a wallet to prove anything

2Kool belonged to that group

For once i agree with something you state .


WTH? I don't even remember you. If we talked before, must have not left an impression on me.



If you read your message, you realize that your writing style is so "personal" that every hecks member notices it Smiley          Likely no one wants to leave an impression on you, srry Sad

hero member
Activity: 644
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People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


By the way, the first 20 pages were free giveaway. They don't even have a wallet to prove anything

2Kool belonged to that group

For once i agree with something you state .


WTH? I don't even remember you. If we talked before, must have not left an impression on me.
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People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


By the way, the first 20 pages were free giveaway. They don't even have a wallet to prove anything

2Kool belonged to that group

For once i agree with something you state
We do have ournem and could be all given add on ID's there to bolster security for the paranoid element. Seems like a lot of hard work though.
hero member
Activity: 644
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People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


By the way, the first 20 pages were free giveaway. They don't even have a wallet to prove anything

2Kool belonged to that group
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.

Yes, as long as they have original wallet and can sign or prove it. Otherwise they are screwed Wink


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Is it possible that one single person can buy all of the auctioned stakes?


I think there is a limit of 2 stakes per auction.

Seems like we are getting away from the most egalitarian distribution if ppl are allowed more than 1 stake pre-launch.

Hm is NEM most egalitarian before ? Do the developers take 3-4% each, don't they ? I am in this because of POI and colored coin. People who help the most should get the most so I don't mind the developers but avoid the term "egalitarian". Giving people according to contribution seems better than dividing everything equally.

> avoid the term "egalitarian".

Why?  Smiley



Also some ppl  say "NEM is too slow, I can't wait. Avoid the term "speed" !"

Why?  I ask again Cheesy


To both "speed" and "egalitarian" can be given some values to describe them.
egalitarian is different in the way that in very ideal cases there can be the ideal egalitarian (for example 1 to all). But in practice there are no ideal cases, something must be bent, then can be evaluated the egalitarian value for these,
a. 1 gets 20%, 4 get 20%  the rest get 60%
b. 1 gets 90%, the rest get 10%
c. 99.5% gets 0.09% each, 0.5% gets 2% each
d. and so on

There, calculate the egalitarian, don't whine that there is no egalitarian at all!


I explained my view on that in greater detail before but it pretty much boils down to:

egaliarian/fair != equal amounts for everyone

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I am happy because I don't want my stake tied to BTT ID. 2Kool4Skewl already lost his account as his account got banned. He is probably not the only one. Some accounts were hacked too (i.e James jj77).

I am not sure how many accounts will never come back and claim their stakes. That number can be as high as 25% (going by the fact that out of 100 Nxt stakeholders only 73 claimed the coins eventually).
 

People can come and tell us that in the refund thread. Once they proof it's them via a signed message we exchange the old account for the new one. E.g. James already did that and he is not the only one.
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Is it possible that one single person can buy all of the auctioned stakes?


I think there is a limit of 2 stakes per auction.

Seems like we are getting away from the most egalitarian distribution if ppl are allowed more than 1 stake pre-launch.

Hm is NEM most egalitarian before ? Do the developers take 3-4% each, don't they ? I am in this because of POI and colored coin. People who help the most should get the most so I don't mind the developers but avoid the term "egalitarian". Giving people according to contribution seems better than dividing everything equally.


> avoid the term "egalitarian".

Why?  Smiley



Also some ppl  say "NEM is too slow, I can't wait. Avoid the term "speed" !"

Why?  I ask again Cheesy


To both "speed" and "egalitarian" can be given some values to describe them.
egalitarian is different in the way that in very ideal cases there can be the ideal egalitarian (for example 1 to all). But in practice there are no ideal cases, something must be bent, then can be evaluated the egalitarian value for these,
a. 1 gets 20%, 4 get 20%  the rest get 60%
b. 1 gets 90%, the rest get 10%
c. 99.5% gets 0.09% each, 0.5% gets 2% each
d. and so on

There, calculate the egalitarian, don't whine that there is no egalitarian at all!



hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500

I am happy because I don't want my stake tied to BTT ID. 2Kool4Skewl already lost his account as his account got banned. He is probably not the only one. Some accounts were hacked too (i.e James jj77).

I am not sure how many accounts will never come back and claim their stakes. That number can be as high as 25% (going by the fact that out of 100 Nxt stakeholders only 73 claimed the coins eventually).
 
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Public alpha in May is unlikely, though it looks like we might get something running for developers.

V1 blockchain will almost surely be released within the next few months.
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