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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 92. (Read 661498 times)

sr. member
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal.

I prefer friendship or something like solidarity. Comradship sounds like we are communists IMO and that should not be the intention either i guess.  Huh

hero member
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Question: Can an asset token be traded in nxt? The other assets, shown at the nxt client can be traded in nxt.

Yes.
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo. 


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

This is a nice write-up, however, how is Nemcoin going to prevent boss-employee hierarchical relationships? Don't currencies just further this? Example....

Boss employs joe, because boss needs joe to complete a task. Boss pays joe in Nem. Nem would be the crucial factor in the employment of joe (or some other mutually agreed upon form of payment).

The statement seems slightly limiting, and goal specific.

Similarly, how is equality related to Nem? In a currency some people will always own more than others, (even if force is used to combat this) how is equality a realistic goal of Nem? "Fairness through Decentralization" would be more appropriate.

I like everything else, thanks utopian.
-EFFV

I think using crypto to pay employees could make it easy to do many micro payments for tasks. That way people can be motivated to complete many things and work collaboratively with their employers.
legendary
Activity: 1596
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo. 


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

I think all of us on the dev team agree with this and want to make this happen.

Hopefully a majority of the stakeholders feel the same way. Change starts with YOU.
full member
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It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo.  


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

/clap  Grin!!!

But...what is the difference to nxt?;-)

I hope the difference will be in the things we do, not words Smiley
I believe that NEM can achieve great success
sr. member
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electroneum.com
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo. 


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

+1 Nakamoto
newbie
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It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo.  


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

/clap  Grin!!!

But...what is the difference to nxt?;-)

I hope the difference will be in the things we do, not words Smiley

Keep on going Smiley will be back in a month.
sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo. 


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

This is a nice write-up, however, how is Nemcoin going to prevent boss-employee hierarchical relationships? Don't currencies just further this? Example....

Boss employs joe, because boss needs joe to complete a task. Boss pays joe in Nem. Nem would be the crucial factor in the employment of joe (or some other mutually agreed upon form of payment).

The statement seems slightly limiting, and goal specific.

Similarly, how is equality related to Nem? In a currency some people will always own more than others, (even if force is used to combat this) how is equality a realistic goal of Nem? "Fairness through Decentralization" would be more appropriate.

I like everything else, thanks utopian.
-EFFV
sr. member
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Merit: 268
Internet of Value
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo.  


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

/clap  Grin!!!

But...what is the difference to nxt?;-)

I hope the difference will be in the things we do, not words Smiley
legendary
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Fair enough, why didnt you just say that sooner? If it was automated would you not just record the amount in and do an out transaction of real nem for the same amount?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6836490

"let's say your stake would be equal to 10 NEM tokens"

this says that tokens can be broken down to 1/10 of a stake..(100k nem) nothing more.. so my statements still stands..

Which statement?

kodtycoon, you're doing good job for community and I don't want to argue with you, but 1/10 of a stake is minimum that you'll be able to trade.
newbie
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It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo.  


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

/clap  Grin!!!

But...what is the difference to nxt?;-)
newbie
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Question: Can an asset token be traded in nxt? The other assets, shown at the nxt client can be traded in nxt.
sr. member
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Step into a world!! A P2P world!
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo.  


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.

/clap  Grin!!!
sr. member
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Internet of Value
Fair enough, why didnt you just say that sooner? If it was automated would you not just record the amount in and do an out transaction of real nem for the same amount?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6836490
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
It has been changed: www.ournem.com; I dropped charity for friendship (is comradeship better) because I think the latter is better for our goal. Charity is very good and we will do a bunch of them but it could be at more individual level imo. 


A new economy based on the principles of financial freedom, decentralization, equality and friendship.


The world we live in could be made better. We could make trade and finance fairer when we use a decentralized currency and reduce the influence of the established capital. We could prevent the corruption of centralized power when we embrace grassroots movement and decentralization. We could support the the principle of equality to give all people a fair chance in life. We could transform the boss-employee hierarchical relationship in most conventional working environments to one where people are partners and friends and making decisions in a democratic fashion. NEM community advances its ideas and projects via Nemcoin premier decentralized technological platform.
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utopianfuture:
specify when will be the first auction.
very interesting what will be the cut-off price share.

The first auction will be during the open Alpha, which has no ETA just yet - likely 2-3 weeks.
legendary
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Gimre, our chief scientist said 1 token divided by 10 should be maximum. The logistics could be a nightmare otherwise. Since you don't code, stop talking like you know about automaton.  

Totally agree with this, any more division would be such a headache to deal with on launch.
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Gustuv.

Pay out of nem coins, the real ones, will be automated. You will just have to send your tokens to a nxt address along with a nem account number in a message attached and your real coins will be sent to you. If you have .1 tokens you will get .1 of a nem stake in real coins. .1 is a tenth of a stake so 156k coins.

That's  incorrect. 1 Nemstake = 1 million NEM. 1/10 stake (100.000 NEM) is the smallest unit you can trade in asset exchange.

oh sorry. i thought it was 1.56.. was sure i read it somehwere.. anyway thats ok.. makes allot more sence now being 1 stake = 1 token thus being able to trade 100 coins at once. much simpler, thanks

why will we get ours 2 weeks after launch?Huh

I'm guessing we'll distribute the "regular" stakes first and that will take quite a bit of time.

But pay outs of nem tokens will be automated. Ao send total nem needed to where ever it needs to be to fund token withdrawls and let it run while distributing normal stake holders. It would actually be more efficient if everyone used the tokens. Whyleave token holders til the end if all ya gota do is send one bulk transaction to fund auto withdrawls?

If people know the token stakes are guna be sent automatically, and do that first. More people will do that just to get their stake before those with regular stakes. Thus less normal stakes to distribute so it woulbe faster for ose who really dont want to use nem.

@soadan. In that case i stand by my previous post a page or 2 back about 1 stake one asset. Its retarded. What if near the end or half way or after alpha stakes  are 5btc, thats a minimum buy in limit of .5 btc... TOTALLY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE! it prevents the people with below the amount required to buy .1 of a stake to buy in.. many many people wont be able to buy in with that sort of money!

Gimre, our chief scientist said 1 token divided by 10 should be maximum. The logistics could be a nightmare otherwise. Since you don't code, stop talking like you know about automaton.  
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Gustuv.

Pay out of nem coins, the real ones, will be automated. You will just have to send your tokens to a nxt address along with a nem account number in a message attached and your real coins will be sent to you. If you have .1 tokens you will get .1 of a nem stake in real coins. .1 is a tenth of a stake so 156k coins.

That's  incorrect. 1 Nemstake = 1 million NEM. 1/10 stake (100.000 NEM) is the smallest unit you can trade in asset exchange.

oh sorry. i thought it was 1.56.. was sure i read it somehwere.. anyway thats ok.. makes allot more sence now being 1 stake = 1 token thus being able to trade 100 coins at once. much simpler, thanks

why will we get ours 2 weeks after launch?Huh

I'm guessing we'll distribute the "regular" stakes first and that will take quite a bit of time.

But pay outs of nem tokens will be automated. Ao send total nem needed to where ever it needs to be to fund token withdrawls and let it run while distributing normal stake holders. It would actually be more efficient if everyone used the tokens. Whyleave token holders til the end if all ya gota do is send one bulk transaction to fund auto withdrawls?

If people know the token stakes are guna be sent automatically, and do that first. More people will do that just to get their stake before those with regular stakes. Thus less normal stakes to distribute so it woulbe faster for ose who really dont want to use nem.

@soadan. In that case i stand by my previous post a page or 2 back about 1 stake one asset. Its retarded. What if near the end or half way or after alpha stakes  are 5btc, thats a minimum buy in limit of .5 btc... TOTALLY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE!

I was just guessing and I haven't really looked into the AE much so maybe UP has a different reason.
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Hi all!
I had been less active than before, but continously reading this thread. The idea of transfer NEM stakes to the NXT AE is a nice idea, but I confess that I cannot judge if it is convinient to do it or not. What can be he pros and cons of such decision? Has anyone some ideas?
Thanks in advance!
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