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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1192. (Read 2985369 times)

legendary
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Once NEM reaches Nxt's distribution curve the price will start rising. You may never see 41 if that point is reached earlier.

I hope to never see 41 Smiley
newbie
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Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?
wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.

Thanks a lot!
That worked fine for me, I'm syncing with the network now!
NIS info is not available yet. Trying to retrieve NIS info... (at block 13201)

No problem. Have fun with it!

Unfortunately this has not been tested on Unix, or more specific OS X 10.10. The installer for version 0.6.26 did not worked, so I grabbed the TGZ file...

Followed the same steps as mentions for Windows and adapted for *nix - but see the following Java exceptions when starting 'nix.runMon.sh':
- download nis-ncc-0.6.26.tgz
- untar
- open a terminal
  cd ~/Downloads/package
  ./nix.runNcc.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runNis.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runMon.sh

**** broken ****
. . . .
2015-04-12 19:37:12.333 INFO FrameworkServlet 'Spring MVC Dispatcher Servlet': initialization completed in 1477 ms (org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet initServletBean)
2015-04-12 14:37:12.333:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler@33617539{/,null,AVAILABLE}
2015-04-12 14:37:12.340:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:main: FAILED ServerConnector@6e46d9f4{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8989}: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
java.net.BindException: Address already in use
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind0(Native Method)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:437)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:429)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketChannelImpl.bind(ServerSocketChannelImpl.java:223)
. . . .
Caused by: org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLException: Database may be already in use: "Locked by another process". Possible solutions: close all other connection(s); use the server mode [90020-175]
   at org.h2.message.DbException.getJdbcSQLException(DbException.java:332)
   at org.h2.message.DbException.get(DbException.java:172)
. . . .
 (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)
2015-04-12 19:37:15.355 INFO NEM Infrastructure Server 0.6.26-BETA shutdown... (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)


Common guys - please test before releasing it. I did a port scan between port 8000 to 9000 and nothing?
Should this not be: 0.0.0.0:8989  --> 127.0.0.1:8989
legendary
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legendary
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Newbie
In the mean time my buy order on Polo still stands. Next week I might lower it to 41 sat so you better act now if you're wanting to get out Wink

Once NEM reaches Nxt's distribution curve the price will start rising. You may never see 41 if that point is reached earlier.
legendary
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Well I didn't see this coming.  I thought XEM had promise but this downward slide since launch is disconcerting.  I expected an initial dump but also expected a correction upward that hasn't happened.  There doesn't appear to be any kind of game plan.  Those behind this coin need to get out front and center now to rally the troops.  I'm not selling my stakes but I hate to take a loss and add another blemish to my almost spotless track record of picking coins.  And I'm getting that uneasy feeling that you get when something doesn't feel right.  So is there a plan for this coin and if so what is it?   

I have a buy order at 61 on Poloniex. Care to fill it for me?

As for your questions, I don't know where you've been but if anything, NEM errs on the side of overplanning and overtesting and overthinking and overdeveloping and even, overinventing. It's actually kind of funny that you are saying "there doesn't appear to be any kind of game plan." I don't think I've run into a coin with MORE game plan since DNotes.

Are you serious?  The value plunges and you come back with an offer to buy at 1/3rd of the price when the coin launched.  Why would you even make such an absurd post.  There are many people that are wondering what is going on.  I'll take a loss and not miss a step.  Some won't be lucky enough to have the cushion to write it off.  This is crypto, months don't work.  Where have you been?  Amazing.

I guess I've been out of the loop reading the NEM plan, which you apparently missed. Here it is again: http://blog.nem.io/progress-and-utility-of-nem/

While you're at it, read the entire website and the other blog posts and you'll get caught up.

In the mean time my buy order on Polo still stands. Next week I might lower it to 41 sat so you better act now if you're wanting to get out Wink
sr. member
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Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Ethereum has an amazing team with lots of money. I am just not sure that they have a clear direction. They do a lot of cool stuff, though.

We don't have the same monetary resources, but we make up for that by being focused and having an amazing team of our own. Several people on the core team have PhDs, one guy is a professor, and another has run several successful businesses himself. Though we wouldn't mind having more programmers, I think we have a really incredible team as it is and by staying focused on building a generic block chain platform that others can build on top of, I think we can do amazing things.

That being said, if anyone wants to help us out by programming, please send me a PM Smiley
Also, please check out our simple API and build applications on top of the NEM block chain: bob.nem.ninja/docs/


makoto1337, could I get your input on this question asked earlier?:

Quote from: sdersdf3

5) I think one of the big issue facing this and a lot of other coins is that it's apparently really tough to code new features into cryptocoins -- either that or devs that code quickly in C++/Java in this space are few and far between - if that's the case - and I'm not sure whether it is or not - maybe it's because the financial rewards aren't large enough compared to what they could be getting elsewhere, or C++/Java are just tough to code period, or all of the above). It just seems to take a very long time to introduce or test even the smallest new changes on this coin and most other coins from what I've seen. I think this also factors into the delay in getting this on other alt exchanges (not that there are many left anyway these days after Poloniex, Bittrex and Cryptsy).

It'll be interesting to see if Ethereum (whenever it's finally done) offers a platform where devs can more quickly iterate and create new features. I keep hearing that their use of this simplified "Serpent" variant of Python is quicker to code.

Anyway, I'm really struck by how long it seems to take to get new things done on any coin, including bitcoin-related stuff like sidechains - not singling out NEM at all in this. Would be great to get from any NEM devs some perspective on this question to those of us on the outside looking in.


Is NEM going to be a platform like Ethereum's? How is it going to be a better platform to build apps? (Easier, faster to code and/or more robust)? Are people going to be able to create new coins on it?
hero member
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NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.

The NCC is open source so anybody can build that.

No one will do that for free. There has to be a big bounty for this.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Szabo gave them some advice.  He said their ideas are great but not their implementation.  (We can only guess about what he meant by that.  Maybe no need to make a new language from scratch when lots of languages already exist, or maybe no need to make it Turing complete?)

I seriously hope we can build NEM up enough for him to take a look here and give us better feedback.

Szabo said that about Ethereum? Really - where and when? Any links? That's interesting to read that as I'm coming across more comments expressing concerns about how practical (or not) Ethereum is going to be if and when they finish it.
legendary
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72% of coins are controlled by a half  dozen people involved in the project. It's Ripple

AWESOME!   Grin

Buckle up folks...  we're about to shoot up to 4000 sats!!!   Kiss


I think he was being negative dumbass.


I'm sure NEMofiles think this coin will drop to 50 sats and then shoot to the moon. But let me give a more likely reality. This coin moves sideways for the indefinite future. NO way is anyone gonna trust this coin for any serious amount of time if it rises in price.
hero member
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hope this helps provide some additional insight in to nem
Smiley
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11064695

72% of coins are controlled by a half  dozen people involved in the project. It's Ripple
legendary
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Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.

The NCC is open source so anybody can build that.
hero member
Activity: 808
Merit: 1011
NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?
wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.

Thanks a lot!
That worked fine for me, I'm syncing with the network now!
NIS info is not available yet. Trying to retrieve NIS info... (at block 13201)

No problem. Have fun with it!
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?
wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.


Are you also on Win 8.1 Fatih ?

Windows 7 Home Premium
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
Hi,
what are the benefits of the Delegated Harvesting instead of local harvesting?

also you can shut down your computer and still harvest.



you can not shut down your computer and still harvest unless you have a remote NIS going.  Then of course you can shut down your computer. Just wanted to be clear on that.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Szabo gave them some advice.  He said their ideas are great but not their implementation.  (We can only guess about what he meant by that.  Maybe no need to make a new language from scratch when lots of languages already exist, or maybe no need to make it Turing complete?)

I seriously hope we can build NEM up enough for him to take a look here and give us better feedback.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
hope this helps provide some additional insight in to nem
Smiley
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11064695
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Ethereum has an amazing team with lots of money. I am just not sure that they have a clear direction. They do a lot of cool stuff, though.

We don't have the same monetary resources, but we make up for that by being focused and having an amazing team of our own. Several people on the core team have PhDs, one guy is a professor, and another has run several successful businesses himself. Though we wouldn't mind having more programmers, I think we have a really incredible team as it is and by staying focused on building a generic block chain platform that others can build on top of, I think we can do amazing things.

That being said, if anyone wants to help us out by programming, please send me a PM Smiley
Also, please check out our simple API and build applications on top of the NEM block chain: bob.nem.ninja/docs/
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