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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1188. (Read 2985369 times)

hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500

Nice!!!!  

no CNY <-> XEM but much closer

I'm surprised that Bter is still in business.  Lee is a known fraud and most likely stole the "hacked" BTC.  The fact that people still use BTER shows the stupidity flowing through the crypto community.

Edit: Nevermind, looking at their volume shows that no one really uses the exchange anymore.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0

Nice!!!! 

no CNY <-> XEM but much closer


I should write this for my friend ciappa!
He chatted last week 3 times with bter team in order to adding NEM on their market directly.

He promised to advertise in bitcointalk for bter market! Bter is a very serious exchange where was traded mostly 2.0 cryptocurrencies, and was the biggest market for Next. Therefore we should give them a chance and help bter with a bit of volume. We transfer now some bitcoin and NEM to bter, to support them. I would be grateful to you all, if you were do it too... so that ciappas work not was in vain!

Thank you all
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
We want to make the NEM block chain platform like legos, where you can build complex systems using simple parts. If you want a coin on top of it, then you could assemble it from basic components (essentially our colored coin implementation, but we are trying to go beyond standard colored coins).

But how is that different than Nxt?

Our implementation of colored coins will be qualitatively different.

My motto is NXT did it first, NEM did it right.

That's a terrible motto, why would you want to associate NEM with Nxt when it comes to features. Successful NEM trading was born on Nxt AE, so you can't exactly knock the platform. History has proven that network effect (1st to market) is king.  Unless the NEM colored coin platform enables something radically unique, I don't think the larger crypto community will really care about another platform.  Focus on why it's a unique platform on it's own, not why it's better than Nxt, because at this point it's really not.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
XEM is trading on three exchanges now  Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013

Nice!!!! 

no CNY <-> XEM but much closer
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
I think NXT with its very involved and busy team created the idea that a busy hardworking team makes a coin. This is ridiculous as NXT was siccessful instantly because it created something no one else had till them.

I have been critical because this coin was so adamant it was going to bring some kind of stupid Communism to Crypto. You guys brought it on yourself and can't evade criticism because you actually were birthed out of extreme criticism of NXT, let's not forget.


But now I feel kind of sorry for NEM. The delusion is thick on this thread as the great SS NemTanic slowly sinks to the bottom.

Go back to the school.
Didn't your mother teach you 'bout communism?

You have been told already in this forum the difference between NEM and communism. But you have not yet learned. Or you just want to FUD yourself, right?


Ignore button is very powerful tool.
hero member
Activity: 554
Merit: 502
Developer!
i was reading about NEM (blog server is down i suppose, or at least i can't reach it, so i can't read more about what i'm going to ask at the moment)

My question is about POI (proof of importance)

it seems to me that the way it works, will cause blockchain bloating in order to have a higher importance, so i could just keep transfering funds from two addresses(accounts?), like artificial volume pump on trades platforms, did i miss something about how it works? If that's right it doesn't sounds good to me

I thought about it too..
It's so easy to abuse that method.

That is basically the first thing everybody thinks about.  If you are trying to game POI definitely do not do that.  You will wreck your activity.  Then the next thing people think of is making big elaborate circles, that also won't help you either.   One reason for all of this is XEM is aged in at 10% a day to get vested.  Each time you move your coins back and forth between yourself you aren't giving your coins enough time to age. 

but i don't think this would solve issues about:
- blockchain bloating: (some people imo will keep doing fake transactions, increasing block size and thus wasting chain space, etc... but i don't know if you have light wallets or pruning systems in place)
- abuse: the more you hold, the more you can do fake (delayed, waiting the needed coin age) transactions, using a slice of your available amount (i still haven't understood the parameters that are taken into account, like if the activity is proportional to the moved amount of coins, etc...)

I remain skeptical about the POI implementation but I'll wait an official white paper to have a more precise idea
member
Activity: 426
Merit: 10
I think NXT with its very involved and busy team created the idea that a busy hardworking team makes a coin. This is ridiculous as NXT was siccessful instantly because it created something no one else had till them.

I have been critical because this coin was so adamant it was going to bring some kind of stupid Communism to Crypto. You guys brought it on yourself and can't evade criticism because you actually were birthed out of extreme criticism of NXT, let's not forget.


But now I feel kind of sorry for NEM. The delusion is thick on this thread as the great SS NemTanic slowly sinks to the bottom.

Go back to the school.
Didn't your mother teach you 'bout communism?

You have been told already in this forum the difference between NEM and communism. But you have not yet learned. Or you just want to FUD yourself, right?
full member
Activity: 235
Merit: 110
HAVUJA PERKELE!
I think NXT with its very involved and busy team created the idea that a busy hardworking team makes a coin. This is ridiculous as NXT was siccessful instantly because it created something no one else had till them.

I have been critical because this coin was so adamant it was going to bring some kind of stupid Communism to Crypto. You guys brought it on yourself and can't evade criticism because you actually were birthed out of extreme criticism of NXT, let's not forget.


But now I feel kind of sorry for NEM. The delusion is thick on this thread as the great SS NemTanic slowly sinks to the bottom.

You are forgetting something with your critisize:
If you  spread fud when something is going
down, you have to face the same people when
the train is going back up. Unfortunatly in your
case the train is already fully booked.
We will be waving to you from the luxury
cabin window while you are walking, filled of despair.
Pls. do me a favor. Do not write here again.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
i was reading about NEM (blog server is down i suppose, or at least i can't reach it, so i can't read more about what i'm going to ask at the moment)

My question is about POI (proof of importance)

it seems to me that the way it works, will cause blockchain bloating in order to have a higher importance, so i could just keep transfering funds from two addresses(accounts?), like artificial volume pump on trades platforms, did i miss something about how it works? If that's right it doesn't sounds good to me

I thought about it too..
It's so easy to abuse that method.

That is basically the first thing everybody thinks about.  If you are trying to game POI definitely do not do that.  You will wreck your activity.  Then the next thing people think of is making big elaborate circles, that also won't help you either.   One reason for all of this is XEM is aged in at 10% a day to get vested.  Each time you move your coins back and forth between yourself you aren't giving your coins enough time to age. 
hero member
Activity: 655
Merit: 500
I think NXT with its very involved and busy team created the idea that a busy hardworking team makes a coin. This is ridiculous as NXT was siccessful instantly because it created something no one else had till them.

I have been critical because this coin was so adamant it was going to bring some kind of stupid Communism to Crypto. You guys brought it on yourself and can't evade criticism because you actually were birthed out of extreme criticism of NXT, let's not forget.


But now I feel kind of sorry for NEM. The delusion is thick on this thread as the great SS NemTanic slowly sinks to the bottom.

your current opinion of nem is based on your lost keys, and lost stake. why are you posting negative now? you look ridiculous. just learn from your mistake and move on. a coin has value independent of its price, and your lost stake should not not influence your opinion. price after a few weeks is not value
sr. member
Activity: 388
Merit: 250
i was reading about NEM (blog server is down i suppose, or at least i can't reach it, so i can't read more about what i'm going to ask at the moment)

My question is about POI (proof of importance)

it seems to me that the way it works, will cause blockchain bloating in order to have a higher importance, so i could just keep transfering funds from two addresses(accounts?), like artificial volume pump on trades platforms, did i miss something about how it works? If that's right it doesn't sounds good to me

I thought about it too..
It's so easy to abuse that method.
No, it is not easy to abuse it, because sending back and forth to other accounts wont increase your importance score. But we are all waiting for the whitepaper, which is not yet published.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1023
I am a good bro
i was reading about NEM (blog server is down i suppose, or at least i can't reach it, so i can't read more about what i'm going to ask at the moment)

My question is about POI (proof of importance)

it seems to me that the way it works, will cause blockchain bloating in order to have a higher importance, so i could just keep transfering funds from two addresses(accounts?), like artificial volume pump on trades platforms, did i miss something about how it works? If that's right it doesn't sounds good to me

I thought about it too..
It's so easy to abuse that method.
hero member
Activity: 554
Merit: 502
Developer!
i was reading about NEM (blog server is down i suppose, or at least i can't reach it, so i can't read more about what i'm going to ask at the moment)

My question is about POI (proof of importance)

it seems to me that the way it works, will cause blockchain bloating in order to have a higher importance, so i could just keep transfering funds from two addresses(accounts?), like artificial volume pump on trades platforms, did i miss something about how it works? If that's right it doesn't sounds good to me
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1023
I am a good bro
hi guys, what is the total and current supply of this coin? it interests me and has caught my eye  Smiley

Quote
How many XEM are in circulation?
The total amount is 8,999,999,999 XEM.


Source: http://www.nem.io/faq.html

Edit: Oh! I'm late  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 554
Merit: 502
Developer!
hi guys, what is the total and current supply of this coin? it interests me and has caught my eye  Smiley

i was just reading http://www.nem.io/faq.html now

info are there, like

Quote
How many XEM are in circulation?
The total amount is 8,999,999,999 XEM.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
I think NXT with its very involved and busy team created the idea that a busy hardworking team makes a coin. This is ridiculous as NXT was siccessful instantly because it created something no one else had till them.

I have been critical because this coin was so adamant it was going to bring some kind of stupid Communism to Crypto. You guys brought it on yourself and can't evade criticism because you actually were birthed out of extreme criticism of NXT, let's not forget.


But now I feel kind of sorry for NEM. The delusion is thick on this thread as the great SS NemTanic slowly sinks to the bottom.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
FLAT OUT!!!
hi guys, what is the total and current supply of this coin? it interests me and has caught my eye  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version.

The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time.

Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land Cheesy) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later.

This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team.

Cheers,
xtester

NEM marketers are a solid team and NEM devs are amazing.

There is a lot of negativity and I know a lot of people wanted to wake up on launch day with a full blown ecosystem and be millionaires.  That didn't happen and people are let down.

Instead what we have is a very solidly built NIS with a lot of great APIs and not hardly any third party ecosystem.

As time goes by NEM devs will continue to make the platform even more robust and agile and NEM marketers will help to promote an ecosystem. 

Life at NEM had been very busy, and is very different now after launch than before launch and again will be very different after V1 as we will have had more time to get an ecosystem going and additional features and APIs that are not and will continue to not be found elsewhere.





"NEM marketers are a solid team"  Cheesy

You can show one step from nem marketers since launch or shortly prelaunch? Nem marketing dies not exist

If you want to know our recent activity, I'll try to list some.

NEM marketers have a budget of exactly $0 but with that budget run
Website (http://www.nem.io/
Forum (https://forum.ournem.com/
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM)  Almost 2,000 followers
Twitter (https://twitter.com/nemofficial) Almost 500 followers
Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ournem)  (Just starting out)
Weibo (http://weibo.com/nemchina
BTC38 (http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xem/)

Contacted and got deals for the following exchanges and payment processor for XEM.
Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xem
Bittrex (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEM
Coingateway (https://coingateway.net/
And talks have been in the works for two more Chinese exchanges as well as another payment processor. 

The NEM marketing team makes special efforts to answer questions as soon as possible when they come up here on this thread, Telegram, forum, and Facebook too. 
 
Wrote everything on http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/ to make sure that all the community can work NEM. 

Wrote a press release last week: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-under-development-next-generation-205200639.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=Default

Working with different news outlets to get stories published about NEM
Article: http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/04/07/nem-qa/
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113839/nem-launches-targets-old-economy-with-proof-of-importance
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchain
Article: http://8btc.com/thread-15618-1-2.html
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nem_interview_about_poi
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nempressrelease
and more coming later.

Helped to get these apps listing NEM as coin tickers:
Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinfeed-bitcoin-dogecoin/id781662999 
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian&hl=en

Getting listed on CMC  https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
And getting listed on Cryptocoin Charts  https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/info
Getting listed on Coin Gecko http://www.coingecko.com/

Made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFss

Again, all right now with a budget of $0.  Actually worse than a budget of $0.  We have been spending our own money.  In my case over $600, and others have spent a lot more than me. 
 
So yes, marketing has been busy and hard at work and is still hard at work trying to make things happen in the future.  Hopefully soon we will get a real budget and start to really make a movement. 

What a lot of people wanted was to wake up one day at launch and become millionaires with a full ecosystem up and running built on NEM.  That is not realistic even in the best case scenario, but with a lot more hard work it might just be possible. 

Gonna quote this whole thing just because people need to see what NEMsters are doing. We just need more people involved and we can make even more things happen.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version.

The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time.

Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land Cheesy) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later.

This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team.

Cheers,
xtester

NEM marketers are a solid team and NEM devs are amazing.

There is a lot of negativity and I know a lot of people wanted to wake up on launch day with a full blown ecosystem and be millionaires.  That didn't happen and people are let down.

Instead what we have is a very solidly built NIS with a lot of great APIs and not hardly any third party ecosystem.

As time goes by NEM devs will continue to make the platform even more robust and agile and NEM marketers will help to promote an ecosystem.  

Life at NEM had been very busy, and is very different now after launch than before launch and again will be very different after V1 as we will have had more time to get an ecosystem going and additional features and APIs that are not and will continue to not be found elsewhere.





"NEM marketers are a solid team"  Cheesy

You can show one step from nem marketers since launch or shortly prelaunch? Nem marketing dies not exist

If you want to know our recent activity, I'll try to list some.

NEM marketers have a budget of exactly $0 but with that budget run
Website (http://www.nem.io/)  
Forum (https://forum.ournem.com/)  
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM)  Almost 2,000 followers
Twitter (https://twitter.com/nemofficial) Almost 500 followers
Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ournem)  (Just starting out)
Weibo (http://weibo.com/nemchina)  
BTC38 (http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xem/)

Contacted and got deals for the following exchanges and payment processor for XEM.
Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xem)  
Bittrex (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEM)  
Coingateway (https://coingateway.net/)  
And talks have been in the works for two more Chinese exchanges as well as another payment processor.  

The NEM marketing team makes special efforts to answer questions as soon as possible when they come up here on this thread, Telegram, forum, and Facebook too.  
 
Wrote everything on http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/ to make sure that all the community can work NEM.  

Wrote a press release last week: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-under-development-next-generation-205200639.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=Default

Working with different news outlets to get stories published about NEM
Article: http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/04/07/nem-qa/
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113839/nem-launches-targets-old-economy-with-proof-of-importance
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchain
Article: http://8btc.com/thread-15618-1-2.html
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nem_interview_about_poi
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nempressrelease
and more coming later.

Helped to get these apps listing NEM as coin tickers:
Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinfeed-bitcoin-dogecoin/id781662999  
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian&hl=en

Getting listed on CMC  https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
And getting listed on Cryptocoin Charts  https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/info
Getting listed on Coin Gecko http://www.coingecko.com/

Made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFss

Again, all right now with a budget of $0.  Actually worse than a budget of $0.  We have been spending our own money.  In my case over $600, and others have spent a lot more than me.  
 
So yes, marketing has been busy and hard at work and is still hard at work trying to make things happen in the future.  Hopefully soon we will get a real budget and start to really make a movement.  

What a lot of people wanted was to wake up one day at launch and become millionaires with a full ecosystem up and running built on NEM.  That is not realistic even in the best case scenario, but with a lot more hard work and time, it might just be possible.  I know it is my intention.   


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