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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1196. (Read 2985369 times)

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I do not understand why no one does anything. a few months ago the devs were´much more present on Forum then now!

it seems as if even the devs lost interest. from the "over 70 team members" we see nothing here

that's because btt is a toxic dump and everone is using other channels. Most really active people are on telegram.
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a shitload of people got their stake almost for free....this dump had to happen guys!
i'm not really worried about this , be smart and double your holdings  Grin Wink


Ofcourse, just trolls playing dumb, acting like NEM should take over the bitcoin to be a legit project Cheesy Cheesy
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Is NEM closed source or open source? Has it been audited by any third parties?
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a shitload of people got their stake almost for free....this dump had to happen guys!
i'm not really worried about this , be smart and double your holdings  Grin Wink
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expect(brain).toHaveBeenUsed()
Price for 1 NEMstake returned to their previous values ​​to 20000 NXT for 1 NEMstake. This is due partly to the fact that sales have joined the rest of the 2,225 people . If you remember at Nxt AE sold their NEMstake only 775 of 3,000. So that the price fell back to their previous values ​​- this is normal . After half a year the price will grow as already grew .

Imo you're wrong! Check the bittrex order book and you will see there is NO interest in NEM. NOBODY is placing a bigger buy order! We Need an efficient Marketing tough

This price drop is just because of the same idiots that made BTC drop that far. A few are dumping, because they need the money. Then others sell their stake in order to get it a little cheaper later, because of the drop. Somewhen they buy back. Then its raising a little and they see, that made a little profit. OMG I have to sell, so that I can have my profit!!! And then the game starts from the beginning...

Why can't you just HODL your f$%&$§ coins, so that it can really grow. You can buy a lambo later instead of a new cellphone now idiots...
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I agree Poloniex has risen to the top.

Agreed. I'm a fan and I've used almost every exchange there is and has been.
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I agree Poloniex has risen to the top.
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I hope volume stays on Poloniex. They were the first to add XEM just like they were the first to add Monero and other cryptonote coins. It's a better exchange than bittrex anyway.

Poloniex is the best alt exchange, imho, and a real model for how crypto should be - they have good programmers there, they tend to focus on high-quality, innovative coins before anyone else does (not garbage clone coins) and they seem to be a lot better at hard-core development and coding/integrating new coin codes than anyone else.

I've noticed that, even when Mintpal was around, Poloniex tended to iterate new features on the site (like easy/fast searching for coins in the right sidebar) a lot faster than anyone else (Cryptsy has yet to join the 21st century in that regard). Minor changes for the most part, but they seem to make those minor changes with quicker ease than other altcoin exchanges.

Plus, they handled the only big hack they had early on really well - with a lot of transparency and integrity. And they returned everyone's BTC.

And their trollbox was a very early source of high-value real-time intel (especially back when crypto was more active and there were a lot more conversations going on) instead of having to trudge through bitcointalk all day long.

Plus the way they handled the anouncement of their redesign - unlike Mintpal, they didn't spend weeks hyping about a future redesign. They just freakin' did it and stunned everybody. They don't spend weeks/months hyping - they just deliver.

They really don't get enough credit, imho.
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My idea create on Nem AE asset New Egalitarian Mark - EGM. Price 1.25 USD in exchangers. Asset/asset exchange. Example : XEM/EGM. 1 EGM = 1.25 USD in exchangers. It's good idea decentralised exchange Smiley
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I do not understand why no one does anything. a few months ago the devs were´much more present on Forum then now!

it seems as if even the devs lost interest. from the "over 70 team members" we see nothing here

You're wrong. Read russian thread, I was there to give a very good ideas Smiley

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11038034
legendary
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The question is when will you lot accept reality?

We will accept reality when you accept that you're ROYALLY STUPID to have lost data that was still sitting there waiting for you to retrieve!!!   Kiss


I accept I am ROYALLY STUPID to have lost data.


Your turn...
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I do not understand why no one does anything. a few months ago the devs were´much more present on Forum then now!

it seems as if even the devs lost interest. from the "over 70 team members" we see nothing here
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I hope volume stays on Poloniex. They were the first to add XEM just like they were the first to add Monero and other cryptonote coins. It's a better exchange than bittrex anyway.
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Move On !!!!!!
Price for 1 NEMstake returned to their previous values ​​to 20000 NXT for 1 NEMstake. This is due partly to the fact that sales have joined the rest of the 2,225 people . If you remember at Nxt AE sold their NEMstake only 775 of 3,000. So that the price fell back to their previous values ​​- this is normal . After half a year the price will grow as already grew .

Imo you're wrong! Check the bittrex order book and you will see there is NO interest in NEM. NOBODY is placing a bigger buy order! We Need an efficient Marketing tough

When I said few days ago how our volume is troubling (read, no current interest in NEM) everybody here were screaming how Polo is a small exchange and when we hit Bittrex everything will be sunshine and rainbows!! Well we did hit Bittrex, lets see all that interest now!
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Price for 1 NEMstake returned to their previous values ​​to 20000 NXT for 1 NEMstake. This is due partly to the fact that sales have joined the rest of the 2,225 people . If you remember at Nxt AE sold their NEMstake only 775 of 3,000. So that the price fell back to their previous values ​​- this is normal . After half a year the price will grow as already grew .

Imo you're wrong! Check the bittrex order book and you will see there is NO interest in NEM. NOBODY is placing a bigger buy order! We Need an efficient Marketing tough
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Agreed. There is good reason for this though. If any platform is to be reliable it needs to be developed carefully and well tested. That takes time but it's time well spent.
However even the most basic feature i.e. payment hasn't been adopted by a significant amount of people yet so that's where I'd focus on.
Everyone is eager to see new features but that's worthless if noone is using them.

Indeed - adoption is the holy grail, or this is all (and I mean all of crypto) kinda pointless. I think its kinda the chicken-and-egg problem: crypto in general clearly needs to offer end users more to get adoption going.

Look at Slack - without hardly any formal marketing, they won massive adoption (and very quickly) on the strength and relevance of the features they offered, the problems those features solve (and solve well) and the word of mouth that came from that.

Crypto should be looking at Slack as a model for how to win user adoption - I think a lot of it (though not all of it) starts with strong, relevant, intuitive features that sell themselves. An even better comparison, btw, is TransferWise.
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Depends on when you bought your NEM stake. At the end the price was almost 50k per NEMStake asset. Many current holders bought at this high. So their loss is immense.

Price for 1 NEMstake returned to their previous values ​​to 20000 NXT for 1 NEMstake. This is due partly to the fact that sales have joined the rest of the 2,225 people . If you remember at Nxt AE sold their NEMstake only 775 of 3,000. So that the price fell back to their previous values ​​- this is normal . After half a year the price will grow as already grew .
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3) That being said, it did take way too long to get here (way, way too long - more on this in 5) ) and have to agree that what we have right now is something that, to the casual end user, doesn't amount to something that feels much different than NXT and other altcoins. Even the transaction speed is kind of underwhelming. I mean, what is it that NEM can do now for the casual user than any other coin can't do? It does beg the question of how much of what we've gotten was worth the long wait. I mean, 70 devs were involved? Really?


I think the client is great.
I think harvesting is a much more satisfiying experience than forging in other coins because even people with lower importance do forge.
I don't know what you mean about the tx spead. Blocktimes are way more consistent than other crytos.

Overall though launch was just the first milestone. It was clear at least to me that at launch NEM would not be much better than other platforms. That takes time.


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5) I think one of the big issue facing this and a lot of other coins is that it's apparently really tough to code new features into cryptocoins -- either that or devs that code quickly in C++/Java in this space are few and far between - if that's the case - and I'm not sure whether it is or not - maybe it's because the financial rewards aren't large enough compared to what they could be getting elsewhere, or C++/Java are just tough to code period, or all of the above). It just seems to take a very long time to introduce or test even the smallest new changes on this coin and most other coins from what I've seen. I think this also factors into the delay in getting this on other alt exchanges (not that there are many left anyway these days after Poloniex, Bittrex and Cryptsy).


Agreed. There is good reason for this though. If any platform is to be reliable it needs to be developed carefully and well tested. That takes time but it's time well spent.
However even the most basic feature i.e. payment hasn't been adopted by a significant amount of people yet so that's where I'd focus on.
Everyone is eager to see new features but that's worthless if noone is using them.
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Price for 1 NEMstake returned to their previous values ​​to 20000 NXT for 1 NEMstake. This is due partly to the fact that sales have joined the rest of the 2,225 people . If you remember at Nxt AE sold their NEMstake only 775 of 3,000. So that the price fell back to their previous values ​​- this is normal . After half a year the price will grow as already grew .
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dandruff1138, I feel your pain. A few observations:

1) it's a tough market - a lot of people have soured on crypto, and with good reason after what we've all seen this past year. There just isn't as much liquidity as there used to be, and almost all new coins show the same post-launch pattern. Maybe we should be impressed that in this tough market NEM has managed to retain about 50% of its launch price.

2) NEM devs have done a reasonably good job of preventing things from being any worse by getting rid of a lot of sock puppets, and they've conducted themselves with great professionalism and consistency - a lot more than I've seen on most other coins, including bitcoin (see Bitcoin Foundation - what a joke).

3) That being said, it did take way too long to get here (way, way too long - more on this in 5) ) and have to agree that what we have right now is something that, to the casual end user, doesn't amount to something that feels much different than NXT and other altcoins. Even the transaction speed is kind of underwhelming. I mean, what is it that NEM can do now for the casual user than any other coin can't do? It does beg the question of how much of what we've gotten was worth the long wait. I mean, 70 devs were involved? Really?

4) From what I understand of the tech talk, they've built a more solid foundation for future 2.0 features than a lot of other coins have - maybe that's part of the answer to 3). Maybe the fruit of this will be borne out going forward... but a lot of coin devs promise all kinds of things...

5) I think one of the big issue facing this and a lot of other coins is that it's apparently really tough to code new features into cryptocoins -- either that or devs that code quickly in C++/Java in this space are few and far between - if that's the case - and I'm not sure whether it is or not - maybe it's because the financial rewards aren't large enough compared to what they could be getting elsewhere, or C++/Java are just tough to code period, or all of the above). It just seems to take a very long time to introduce or test even the smallest new changes on this coin and most other coins from what I've seen. I think this also factors into the delay in getting this on other alt exchanges (not that there are many left anyway these days after Poloniex, Bittrex and Cryptsy).

It'll be interesting to see if Ethereum (whenever it's finally done) offers a platform where devs can more quickly iterate and create new features. I keep hearing that their use of this simplified "Serpent" variant of Python is quicker to code.

Anyway, I'm really struck by how long it seems to take to get new things done on any coin, including bitcoin-related stuff like sidechains - not singling out NEM at all in this. Would be great to get from any NEM devs some perspective on this question to those of us on the outside looking in.
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