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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1536. (Read 2985369 times)

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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.

You may think it is frivolous but the point is it needs consensus. With so many fuds, this must be discussed. If everyone thinks it is nothing, this wouldn't have been such a topic. Further, it will affect the market price of NEM. Shouldn't you be interested if you are a stakeholder? What affects your concern more? How to claim?

It would indeed affect the price per NEM, but not the market cap or price per stake. Therefore, from a price point of view I couldn't care less whether we have a 4 billion or 888 billion supply. The stake will be worth the same.

I understand the reasons to this number discussion and get that most people want an 8 rather than a 4, but to keep going at different variations of 8, especially in this stage of development just isn't efficient and fruitful.

Concerns have been voiced, dev team took notice, alternatives were provided, and I'm sure a good decision will be made on the total number.

I am not sure what you mean by "It would indeed affect the price per NEM, but not the market cap or price per stake." - the price of NEM will affect the market cap as the market cap depends on the price of the NEM to arrive at its market cap value. ...

What he means is this...
If you have 10 coins and a marketcap of 200 USD then each coin is worth 20 USD.
If you suddenly split those 10 coins into 20 then the marketcap stays the same but each coin is only worth 10 USD.

This would be correct if the price was dictated by pure logic. Which it isn't.
legendary
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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.

You may think it is frivolous but the point is it needs consensus. With so many fuds, this must be discussed. If everyone thinks it is nothing, this wouldn't have been such a topic. Further, it will affect the market price of NEM. Shouldn't you be interested if you are a stakeholder? What affects your concern more? How to claim?

It would indeed affect the price per NEM, but not the market cap or price per stake. Therefore, from a price point of view I couldn't care less whether we have a 4 billion or 888 billion supply. The stake will be worth the same.

I understand the reasons to this number discussion and get that most people want an 8 rather than a 4, but to keep going at different variations of 8, especially in this stage of development just isn't efficient and fruitful.

Concerns have been voiced, dev team took notice, alternatives were provided, and I'm sure a good decision will be made on the total number.

I am not sure what you mean by "It would indeed affect the price per NEM, but not the market cap or price per stake." - the price of NEM will affect the market cap as the market cap depends on the price of the NEM to arrive at its market cap value. Mathematically, 4 Billion or 8 Billion supply affects the price of NEM and the market cap.

It appears that you seldom come here but some work has been done and it is not so much about superstition anymore.

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2661.msg9164#msg9164

To note: I was indifferent about the number of coins until I actually started looking at its implications. You see, I am one person who will not treat anything likely unless I have thought much about it.  I came out with a brief view and then later I was asked to give a more affirmative view with regards to having a quantitative analysis on it. If the analysis has any bearing, then you should be more interested rather than just writing it off without due considerations and think it is a waste of time.

Sometimes, we should recognize that little details like these can make the difference between a well executed project and a failure (or not so well executed project). No matter how preposterous a suggestion is, one should not just knock it off. After all 4B to 8B came from a superstitious suggestion, which to me was preposterous. But I looked at it from another perspective, i.e., what if we really increased it? Will it make a value difference instead? Whence I went out to look for an answer.

None has challenged my findings so far. And I welcome a challenge.
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Alright thanks, I just tried this, but now I cant start NCC it goes to starting then stops only NIS runs, also i cant find nem community client shortcut and open ncc in browser doesnt connect, any idea?

Maybe you already had an alpha version installed which is incompatible.
Open task manager and kill every java process running. Then delete the folder "c:\users\\nem".
Then start the NEM software again.

Bloody Rookie


Yup I did everything you posted in that link and restarted it should now be 0.4.20beta but NCC starts then stops after a few
hero member
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Alright thanks, I just tried this, but now I cant start NCC it goes to starting then stops only NIS runs, also i cant find nem community client shortcut and open ncc in browser doesnt connect, any idea?

Maybe you already had an alpha version installed which is incompatible.
Open task manager and kill every java process running. Then delete the folder "c:\users\\nem".
Then start the NEM software again.

Bloody Rookie
legendary
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NEM deaded is?!  Angry Angry Sad



... Look at available stakes and reconsider
legendary
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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.

You may think it is frivolous but the point is it needs consensus. With so many fuds, this must be discussed. If everyone thinks it is nothing, this wouldn't have been such a topic. Further, it will affect the market price of NEM. Shouldn't you be interested if you are a stakeholder? What affects your concern more? How to claim?

It would indeed affect the price per NEM, but not the market cap or price per stake. Therefore, from a price point of view I couldn't care less whether we have a 4 billion or 888 billion supply. The stake will be worth the same.

I understand the reasons to this number discussion and get that most people want an 8 rather than a 4, but to keep going at different variations of 8, especially in this stage of development just isn't efficient and fruitful.

Concerns have been voiced, dev team took notice, alternatives were provided, and I'm sure a good decision will be made on the total number.
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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..
+1
Fair enough.......what do you want to talk about then? .....

Who will buy NEM after launch and what will they do with the money? How we could get new people from the outside of the BTT.
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Never back down !!!
Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.

+1



+1

PLEASE STOP IT!!!!!!
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I don't think many read the op.. Roll Eyes
I said the Title.  People read the title.  Roll Eyes

wups.. sorry.. Smiley that they do. Grin

Yeah, and I agree nobody reads the OP.
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Help with nem, how do I get the client to sync?the  blocks dont update

Is your node booted? What happens when you click the "send nem" button?

Yeah im very new to nem/nxt, i got nem working a month ago and even had people send me some nem, tried to start it up this month but now its at 0 nems at block unkown and doesnt update, not sure if i did something wrong with the java update or what

I typed in a random node name and when clicking send the send screen pops up

Hi crypt0xx,

maybe the last version you tried was an alpha version which is incompatible to any beta version. To be sure that everything works I would

1) go to java control panel, and hit "View..." (can be run with javaws -viewer)
2) from "applications" remove NCC, NIS and Monitor
3) to be sure check resources and clean them all (this will cause redownload of everything, which might take a bit, but should help with most of the problems)

There is a detailed post on how to remove the NEM software prior to installing the new version in the ournem forum:
https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2635.msg8834#msg8834

Bloody Rookie

Alright thanks, I just tried this, but now I cant start NCC it goes to starting then stops only NIS runs, also i cant find nem community client shortcut and open ncc in browser doesnt connect, any idea?
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REDEEM YOUR AE Stakes & BTT Stakes BEFORE NOVEMBER 22, 2014

CHEERS GUYS

Devs forgive me I'm not spamming. Just simply being the reminder.


*** Bumpin' ***

Why wouldn't this be in the OP title?
legendary
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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.

You may think it is frivolous but the point is it needs consensus. With so many fuds, this must be discussed. If everyone thinks it is nothing, this wouldn't have been such a topic. Further, it will affect the market price of NEM. Shouldn't you be interested if you are a stakeholder? What affects your concern more? How to claim?
hero member
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Tried to claim my stake and got this msg "That token has not been registered in time. You will need to claim after launch" will I still get the full amount at launch?
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[ author=NorrisK link=topic=654845.msg9517278#msg9517278 date=1415784803]
Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and ...


Your postings made me want a gallup Smiley


How many crypto coins are you following?

My answer is  0.5  Smiley

legendary
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8 888 888 888

8 000 888 000

8 888 000 000


Depends on which you think may be more aesthetic to read, sounds better and rounds more conveniently.  I think the first number would just be pronounced 8.888 billion in a conversation (as in "8 point 888 billion") or rounded to 9.  The second would just be rounded to 8.  


Probably plain old simple 8 billion would do. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yeah, I tend to agree. You would end up trying to explain one of the other numbers such as

8 888 888 888

8 000 888 000

8 888 000 000

and wouldnt really have a good explanation for any of them.

remember animal farm .. 8 is goood    4 is baaaaddd
legendary
Activity: 1946
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Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



Isn't coin number about NEM? Or you want us to switch subject and talk about NOBLECOIN? That will be a waste of my time, too.

Why are you involving noblecoin in this? I'm supporting them, hence my sig, but I'm not starting a discussion about them here.. Leave noblecoin out of this.

I'm a stakeholder in NEM and that's why I feel useless discussions should end at some point. It's not good marketing towards new people if the main discussion about one of the greatest projects in crypto is about something as small as the total amount if coins.

There have been discussions for weeks about something that's hardly used in daily practice and those discussions should end and make room for more constructive ones.
legendary
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Merit: 1016
Rockethead in that post was purely focused on analytical and empirical justification to increasing the supply (he was not interested in superstition at least in that one post).  

There does seem to be evidence that increasing the supply will produce a higher capitalization (stakeholders would be wealthier if that is what they are interested in) and induce more velocity.  

It also allows somebody to maintain NEMillionaire status as currently all it takes is to spend 1 NEM and you cease being a NEMillionaire.  So NEMstakeholders may end up getting a free silver coin and some little spending NEM so they can maintain their prestige title of being one of the initial NEMillionaires.


As for the superstition with 8 and 888.  888 in particular is an universal good luck number in Western European / Anglophone cultures, Latin American, Judaism, Eastern European / Greek and East Asian cultures.  


I don't really care if it is a 4. My phone ends with a 4 and it came the way it was and I did not bother. I only care if I buy a house because I will not be able to fetch a premium with some jerk whose life revolves around 2s, 3s, 6s, 8s and 9s! They should be doing their own soixante neuf instead!

It is an accepted culture in Australia, at least in Sydney. They are no level four in many new apartment developments in Sydney!
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Move On !!!!!!
Can we please stop the coin number discussion? People are talking about NEM when they are discussing it, not the "8 or 8.888 billion total coin cryptocurrency". Total waste of time this..



+1

Fair enough.......what do you want to talk about then? .....

Maybe about the launch!!  Cheesy
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