NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1552.

makoto1337

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Quote from: Coinshot on November 07, 2014, 08:24:29 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on November 07, 2014, 08:17:44 PM

Quote from: Coinshot on November 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

What is the deadline for phase 2? I did not see any date mentioned anywhere.

Nov 22

Thanks.

Its the same for claiming NEMstake redemptions?

Yes. However, people seem to be kind of slow in redeeming, so it will likely be extended. For now, both NXT AE and BTT stake holders have the deadline of Nov 22.

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Quote from: makoto1337 on November 07, 2014, 08:17:44 PM

Quote from: Coinshot on November 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

What is the deadline for phase 2? I did not see any date mentioned anywhere.

Nov 22

Thanks.

Its the same for claiming NEMstake redemptions?

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Quote from: Coinshot on November 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

What is the deadline for phase 2? I did not see any date mentioned anywhere.

Nov 22

Coinshot

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What is the deadline for phase 2? I did not see any date mentioned anywhere.

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@teletobi: which version are you running? please check "client info" menu item.

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FYI, the "Verify your real Account Data" is not visible in german Translation. You can activate it by choosing the Gap, but it´s not visible!

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Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.

Please refrain from posting or quoting any wallet addresses here, otherwise your post will be immediately deleted in order to prevent the closure of this thread.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Hi Guys,

I am at stakeholder list (Tasunko).
I create NEM account: T...
But i haven't got balance.
please help me. Sorry for my bad english.

I don't see your name here: https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered

Read carefully this post !

NEM is not launched yet, we are in Redemption stage.

Have you registered your token (received by PM) during phase 1 ?

If you do, we are now in phase 2 regarding BTT stakeholders, you have to register here : https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/
/!\ /!\ You'll need your token and the Real NEM address (starting with N) you generated in BETA (and stored SOMEWHERE SAFE with associated Private and Public keys).

/!\ /!\ AGAIN, Be sure you have stored, somewhere safe, the Private Key associated with the REAL NEM address you'll use here https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/ ! You can verify your keys under "Verify real account data" in BETA to be sure your REAL NEM address match these keys.

If you don't registered your token during phase 1, you should send a PM to patmast3r

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Guys, get those addresses out of your posts and in to your sigs or you'll make infinite work for our moderator(s)

. Put it in your sig, and then say "send me some", at which point us nemesis folks will happily make you rich.

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Quote from: nextgencoin on November 07, 2014, 11:51:41 AM

when is the launch? We are getting past early Nov on the OP info.

From the OP, below of the schedule:

Note: none of the above information is set in stone and will most likely be subject to change as we make progress.

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when is the launch? We are getting past early Nov on the OP info.

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Quote from: banders on November 07, 2014, 08:04:09 AM

Quote from: fragout on November 07, 2014, 07:00:03 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 06:26:46 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

Don't understand what you mean by confused. If they are ever confused, they will more than likely think it is our mistake and getting 2 times the amount may well turn out to be a pleasant surprise.

"Terrible choice from marketing and economics perspective" You may want to elaborate instead of making a statement?

Exactly. If you had made it 2 billion, there would be an outcry from people who didnt know about the change. With 8 billion they will receive double and be trilled

Is the 4 billion now being changed?

https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2531.msg6776#msg6776

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Quote from: fragout on November 07, 2014, 07:00:03 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 06:26:46 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

Don't understand what you mean by confused. If they are ever confused, they will more than likely think it is our mistake and getting 2 times the amount may well turn out to be a pleasant surprise.

"Terrible choice from marketing and economics perspective" You may want to elaborate instead of making a statement?

Exactly. If you had made it 2 billion, there would be an outcry from people who didnt know about the change. With 8 billion they will receive double and be trilled

Is the 4 billion now being changed?

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Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 06:26:46 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

Don't understand what you mean by confused. If they are ever confused, they will more than likely think it is our mistake and getting 2 times the amount may well turn out to be a pleasant surprise.

"Terrible choice from marketing and economics perspective" You may want to elaborate instead of making a statement?

Exactly. If you had made it 2 billion, there would be an outcry from people who didnt know about the change. With 8 billion they will receive double and be trilled

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Quote from: Spider on November 07, 2014, 03:58:18 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 12:20:15 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 12:12:18 AM

Thats a very stupid move, dont do it. 4 billion is the way to go.

That is a smart move. Do it. 8 Billion is the way to go.

If I understand correctly, after the doubling, the fees will be cheaper by 50% and sending NEM will be 8 times cheaper than sending NXT. Am I right?

No, the fees will double too. The fees are already very low. We don't want to make it too cheap to spam the network.

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Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

Don't understand what you mean by confused. If they are ever confused, they will more than likely think it is our mistake and getting 2 times the amount may well turn out to be a pleasant surprise.

"Terrible choice from marketing and economics perspective" You may want to elaborate instead of making a statement?

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Quote from: gimre on November 02, 2014, 11:28:12 AM

Quote from: EmoneyRu on November 02, 2014, 10:16:44 AM

Are you kidding talking about going out of beta if I have

Quote

NIS is synchronizing. At block 12961, est. 4 days behind.

for the last 2 days?

You haven't given much details. Also you might want to visit this thread:
https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2595.120

and others on nem forums, as they are much more appropriate for reporting problems than this thread.
(Also there are many people willing to help there).

fixed by

Quote from: xtester on November 03, 2014, 05:22:17 PM

NEM Beta 0.4.17 is here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2635.msg8431#msg8431

Enjoy.

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Quote from: TaunSew on November 07, 2014, 05:03:19 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

There is no marketing perspective here. A marketing person would take the perspective of what we can do to make NEM more appealing to future users and adjusting the total supply is one means of increasing appeal.

Having 4 billion "death coins" could be a deal breaker for hypothetical users in East Asia. Call them superstitious but a coin supply of 666 million or 13 billion would result in similar hysteria among Americans.

What is technically going on here is actually appeasement of a minority opinion of stakeholders. The sample poll was in favor of 8 billion coins (the logo vote had a smaller margin in favor and I voted against that penis logo, by the way. I guess NEM = MEN backwards and hence the phallic object but I still don't get it but I've accepted it / don't dissent over it anymore).

NEM is the giver of life that is based on information transfer.

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Quote from: patmast3r on November 07, 2014, 05:15:34 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 05:13:04 AM

Quote from: TaunSew on November 07, 2014, 05:03:19 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

There is no marketing perspective here. A marketing person would take the perspective of what we can do to make NEM more appealing to future users and adjusting the total supply is one means of increasing appeal.

Having 4 billion "death coins" could be a deal breaker for hypothetical users in East Asia. Call them superstitious but a coin supply of 666 million or 13 billion would result in similar hysteria among Americans.

What is technically going on here is actually appeasement of a minority opinion of stakeholders. The sample poll was in favor of 8 billion coins (the logo vote had a smaller margin in favor and I voted against that penis logo, by the way)

+ 8 billion

Its interesting how some here want the participation of people from other cultures for the benefit of the NEM whilst at the same time ridiculing their beliefs and cultural psychology.

From what I can gather it were mostly non-asian people who actually came up with the topic.
At the same time we had a few chinese people saying that younger generations don't give a flying fart about those things anymore.

I believe changing the number this late just because there might be supersticion is not a wise move (and I'm saying "not wise" because I have to be polite now).

> changing the number this late just

I don't get it. Why does it matter, how late it is?
A very simple change: every figure is doubled, nobody will lose anything. Can't you just imagine: first there was 4 Billion and your share was X. Now there is 8 Billion and your share is 2X.

After the Genesis launch nobody will cry for the old plans. Childish and disbelief of human capability to understand and bear changes!

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Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 05:13:04 AM

Quote from: TaunSew on November 07, 2014, 05:03:19 AM

Quote from: Simakki on November 07, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on November 07, 2014, 01:26:05 AM

Quote from: rockethead on November 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM

Quote from: Hollowman338 on November 07, 2014, 12:25:13 AM

The issue as I have now come to understand it is simply a doubling of the total amount. The percentage of each stake remains unchanged (I.e. 1MM NEM is now 2MM NEM).

The genesis of this change being the apparent Chinese superstition regarding the number "4".

The genesis of the change may have been an apparent Chinese superstition. But then some attempted rationale was put forth to increase its number regardless. Hence the figure of 8 Billion came about although a larger number is still something that can be pondered and weighed upon.

It was 4 billion that was picked out the air. After discussion by Nemsters on the Forum the number 8 billion came up for a variety of reasons and was decidedly liked by most over the original 4 B.

Do we want to cater for the Asians? Any Asian new to the movement would probably pick 8 billion rather than 4
Also I agree that when NEM becomes popular, do we want to talk about decimal points like BtC....I find it confusing when something is worth 0.00065 of a btc for example. Perhaps 80 billion would bring pricing amounts up to closer to what we are all familiar with.

What is the point for such a big change at this point? People who have bought their stakes in AE will get confused and the same effect go along with those who does not visit this topic regulary. Given the point that devaluation of NEM could seriously harm the price, IMO Just burn one NEM.

That is just a terrible choice from marketing- and economics perspective.

There is no marketing perspective here. A marketing person would take the perspective of what we can do to make NEM more appealing to future users and adjusting the total supply is one means of increasing appeal.

Having 4 billion "death coins" could be a deal breaker for hypothetical users in East Asia. Call them superstitious but a coin supply of 666 million or 13 billion would result in similar hysteria among Americans.

What is technically going on here is actually appeasement of a minority opinion of stakeholders. The sample poll was in favor of 8 billion coins (the logo vote had a smaller margin in favor and I voted against that penis logo, by the way)

+ 8 billion

Its interesting how some here want the participation of people from other cultures for the benefit of the NEM whilst at the same time ridiculing their beliefs and cultural psychology.

From what I can gather it were mostly non-asian people who actually came up with the topic.
At the same time we had a few chinese people saying that younger generations don't give a flying fart about those things anymore.

I believe changing the number this late just because there might be supersticion is not a wise move (and I'm saying "not wise" because I have to be polite now).

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