NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1645.

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Quote from: nembit86 on October 20, 2014, 08:47:02 AM

By now everyone has given lots of thought and comment to the subject of amount of coins.
Twice on the poll there was a clear majority for 8 billion.
If a core developer were to say it was too late or difficult to change to this number then keep things as they are but if its easy to change then just do it.

Maybe....there may be...a fierce fighting between dev team members over the amount of NEMcoin.
"Go ahead until good conclusion, I can wait NEM launch forever."

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NEM ....best currency distribution ever ...!!!!!!!

By now everyone has given lots of thought and comment to the subject of amount of coins.
Twice on the poll there was a clear majority for 8 billion.
If a core developer were to say it was too late or difficult to change to this number then keep things as they are but if its easy to change then just do it.

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Quote from: mattadc on October 20, 2014, 08:30:42 AM

Quote from: DarkhorseofNxt on October 20, 2014, 08:22:38 AM

If it is ridiculous, i will say it is ridiculous. Keep your superstition to yourself, dont force it on others.

It is not anymore "ridiculous". There has been given arguments and even calculations, why 8 billion would be better.
THe ones who are against 8 billion, are afraid of change, small, tiny change, only one number is changed. And they are afraid of that! . Isn't that ridiculous?

Right!
"Being afraid of small change" is not in harmony with "New Economy Movement"

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Quote from: DarkhorseofNxt on October 20, 2014, 08:22:38 AM

If it is ridiculous, i will say it is ridiculous. Keep your superstition to yourself, dont force it on others.

I think all religions and superstitions are ridiculous but pragmatism dictates that this be taken seriously for business reasons.

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I think that it is time someone with more power/influence in the community to step in and end this discussion by making a decision. Unfortunately, it has gotten to a point where people are fighting instead of discussing, and that is not something I want to see at all.

If we could just get a dev to come in and give the final word on this we can end the discussion and be done with it, because I am really not happy with how things are going right now.

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Quote from: DarkhorseofNxt on October 20, 2014, 08:22:38 AM

If it is ridiculous, i will say it is ridiculous. Keep your superstition to yourself, dont force it on others.

It is not anymore "ridiculous". There has been given arguments and even calculations, why 8 billion would be better.
THe ones who are against 8 billion, are afraid of change, small, tiny change, only one number is changed. And they are afraid of that! . Isn't that ridiculous?

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If it is ridiculous, i will say it is ridiculous. Keep your superstition to yourself, dont force it on others.

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The chinese can just wait for the price to go into 5xxxx or go back to 3xxxx. Problem solved

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Quote from: mattadc on October 20, 2014, 07:44:22 AM

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Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:55:14 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:52:57 AM

i am afraid to see what happens if nem marketcap reach 4k btc Grin

most likely it will mean the end for NEM

devs are there any "4"'s in the source code? if there is best remove them or make them "8"'s.. no one will use the code if there are 4's in the source.. Roll Eyes

Well... I think that the 4's wont't be The prob.
The bigger problem is the attitude of these comments: you are seriously making fun of other people's believings and show no respect. That may make more harm than not changing the 4.

And: the 4, which is talked about would be the base of the NEM blockchain, isn't it? It is not comparable to any other 4's in NEM. You know it, so stop laughing to other's believings.

This is becoming too much. If the chinese are so superstitious, Doge coin would not have been supported by them. Why are there so many supporters of Doge Coin. How can money be named a dog. In chinese, if something good is named an animal like a dog, it means bad omen.

人不要做, 要做狗

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Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:55:14 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:52:57 AM

i am afraid to see what happens if nem marketcap reach 4k btc Grin

most likely it will mean the end for NEM

devs are there any "4"'s in the source code? if there is best remove them or make them "8"'s.. no one will use the code if there are 4's in the source.. Roll Eyes

No problem. Just correct 4 into F.
In our country, every elevator button is like this : 1 2 3 F 5 6.... Grin

(F = Four)

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Quote from: jabo38 on October 20, 2014, 07:20:32 AM

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Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 05:05:31 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 01:18:41 AM

Quote from: xtester on October 19, 2014, 02:21:26 PM

Quote from: xtester on October 19, 2014, 09:45:52 AM

NEM 6th newsletter is out: https://medium.com/@xtester/nem-newsletter-6-2014-10-19-6cc2c2cc99be

Enjoy! Wink

Some minor changes have been added to the newsletter.

Did anyone read this ?
This thread was filled with the discussion regarding a longer redemption period for a week and now an announcement regarding that doesn't even spark any reaction ?

Let me post the direct link then: https://medium.com/@xtester/extended-redemption-period-d6e7ceaf3a53

that's shocking.. Soo many people kicked up a stink over the unclaimed and now that a solution is put into practice by the devs.. No one can even say thank you...

I just caught this post now. The devs did well.

Basically if somebody didn't claim their token during the regular period then after launch, redemption will be possible for 3 further months. During this period, redemption will happen with reduced equivalences for NEM stakes.

during the 1st month after launch: 1 NEM stake is worth 750 000 NEM
during the 2nd month after launch: 1 NEM stake is worth 500 000 NEM
during the 3rd month after launch: 1 NEM stake is worth 250 000 NEM
As soon as the 3 months are over, not a single NEM stake will be able to be redeemed and remaining NEMs will be available for NEM development.

This will have given a person more than 4 months to get on board with claiming their NEM. More than a month pre-genesis and many months after. After launch the volume of conversations about NEM will go up, maybe a few people that signed up and forgot will have their memories rekindled and will come join us. For the most part, I doubt it will be an issue.

On time = 1 000 000 NEM?

If yes, how long will take launch time (no penalty time).

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Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:55:14 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:52:57 AM

i am afraid to see what happens if nem marketcap reach 4k btc Grin

most likely it will mean the end for NEM

devs are there any "4"'s in the source code? if there is best remove them or make them "8"'s.. no one will use the code if there are 4's in the source.. Roll Eyes

Well... I think that the 4's wont't be The prob.
The bigger problem is the attitude of these comments: you are seriously making fun of other people's believings and show no respect. That may make more harm than not changing the 4.

And: the 4, which is talked about would be the base of the NEM blockchain, isn't it? It is not comparable to any other 4's in NEM. You know it, so stop laughing to other's believings.

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new chinese generation doesn't even care anymore about numbers...we would care maybe if the coin it's named Fourcoin or something like that, but not because it has a 4 billion supply. All this discussion it's useless...
devs dont' worry about , focus instead on the official launch.

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Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:55:14 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:52:57 AM

i am afraid to see what happens if nem marketcap reach 4k btc Grin

most likely it will mean the end for NEM

devs are there any "4"'s in the source code? if there is best remove them or make them "8"'s.. no one will use the code if there are 4's in the source.. Roll Eyes

I got a better idea. Those with 4 on their tokens get their NEMs burnt. THat should solve the problem.

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Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:51:40 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 06:50:19 AM

Quote from: devphp on October 20, 2014, 06:49:36 AM

Quote from: vytasz7 on October 20, 2014, 06:48:18 AM

guys we need to do something with NEM price on NXT AE ,because stake cost 40k .No chinees going to buy for that price ,because it means "DEATH". NEM IS DOOMED

What exactly do you mean? Is that too high or too low and why the chinese? Do chinese people need a special price? )

Appearantly they do. They need their own supply so I think a special price isn't too much to ask Roll Eyes

yeah they need a price without 4 in it

You know nothing about chinese culture. Don't kick fud and troll.

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Quote from: rockethead on October 20, 2014, 07:30:24 AM

Quote from: Scharfenberger on October 20, 2014, 05:37:15 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on October 20, 2014, 05:29:02 AM

Just thinkin...maybe we should do as some suggested and burn only one coin.

3 999 999 999

and show this number everywhere instead of 4 B.

Why? Well everyones Granny and her dog is going to ask why it wasnt 4billion exactly.

And we can tell them the reason.

There just doesnt seem to be a clear majority wanting 8 billion which I think was the best idea.

I really like to stay close to the original 4B.
3.999.999.999 seems to be the best solution.

And so if 555.555 got lost or accidentally burnt as well we are back to 3,999,444,444. That is even worse in the Chinese culture.

Forget it. If this is all just rhetoric, just leave it and close this shit out. We can talk forever and a day over it. Nothing will happen.

Well thats 2 votes and both times 8 billion was more popular. Its very clear.

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Quote from: Scharfenberger on October 20, 2014, 05:37:15 AM

Quote from: nembit86 on October 20, 2014, 05:29:02 AM

Just thinkin...maybe we should do as some suggested and burn only one coin.

3 999 999 999

and show this number everywhere instead of 4 B.

Why? Well everyones Granny and her dog is going to ask why it wasnt 4billion exactly.

And we can tell them the reason.

There just doesnt seem to be a clear majority wanting 8 billion which I think was the best idea.

I really like to stay close to the original 4B.
3.999.999.999 seems to be the best solution.

And so if 555.555 got lost or accidentally burnt as well we are back to 3,999,444,444. That is even worse in the Chinese culture.

Forget it. If this is all just rhetoric, just leave it and close this shit out. We can talk forever and a day over it. Nothing will happen.

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Quote from: helloge on October 20, 2014, 06:22:49 AM

Quote from: devphp on October 20, 2014, 06:18:57 AM

Just destroy the unclaimed stakes, have them go to a provably unspendable account right at Genesis block. That automatically raises the value of all other coins.

definite destroy the unclaimed stakes as the good return for the holders.

Why? I bet my bottom NEM, that NEM will go with it and you will have nothing in return.

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Quote from: devphp on October 20, 2014, 06:18:57 AM

Just destroy the unclaimed stakes, have them go to a provably unspendable account right at Genesis block. That automatically raises the value of all other coins.

How sure are you?

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Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 06:01:30 AM

Quote from: rockethead on October 20, 2014, 05:16:53 AM

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Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 05:05:31 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on October 20, 2014, 01:18:41 AM

Quote from: xtester on October 19, 2014, 02:21:26 PM

Quote from: xtester on October 19, 2014, 09:45:52 AM

NEM 6th newsletter is out: https://medium.com/@xtester/nem-newsletter-6-2014-10-19-6cc2c2cc99be

Enjoy! Wink

Some minor changes have been added to the newsletter.

Did anyone read this ?
This thread was filled with the discussion regarding a longer redemption period for a week and now an announcement regarding that doesn't even spark any reaction ?

Let me post the direct link then: https://medium.com/@xtester/extended-redemption-period-d6e7ceaf3a53

that's shocking.. Soo many people kicked up a stink over the unclaimed and now that a solution is put into practice by the devs.. No one can even say thank you...

Demented community? Wink

I think they are more interested in seeing the trees in front than the forest. :-)

It certainly brings up the question why the team should give a fuck about what is being discussed here.
It probably will end up being the same when the total supply is changed. First everyone makes a huge fuzz and then noone cares.

Frustrating as fuck.

I think you are right. We shouldn't care either. Wink

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