Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1648. (Read 2985369 times)

As far as the software goes, I think it is just a change of a simple constant (though someone else can correct me if I'm wrong). It really just depends on what the community wants. I think there is little downside, but a potential benefit.

But like I said, it depends on what everyone wants

That was the best compromise I can think of.     We can ignore the superstition but I think there was a plurality opinion between the polls that is not an advisable route as it could backfire.  I wouldn't want a coin if it had a supply of 666 and I imagine many East Asians may not want a coin with a supply of 4.  We may laugh at these things but it could be a deal breaker.

  It was already discussed, back when the issue of unclaimed stakes first arose, about burning X amount.   So burning 200 is a simple thing..

Is it worth it?  We know Gliss and I think to Gliss whether you put 700 into an investment fund or 500 into an investment fund, he would count neither in the available supply on coinmarketcap.

Did anyone read this ?
This thread was filled with the discussion regarding a longer redemption period for a week and now an announcement regarding that doesn't even spark any reaction ?

Let me post the direct link then: https://medium.com/@xtester/extended-redemption-period-d6e7ceaf3a53

Well? I see that discussion has stopped so I assume a decision has been taken.

Sounds like a good idea! But how is it to "lose" 200 stakes? Is it worth it?

they are reasonable points, annnnnnd my name ends with 38 so I like the combination.  hehehe

That sounds like a pretty reasonable compromise to me. No fundamental changes to the code base, but the numbers change . Still need to update the docs less anyone scour and fixate on that anywhere in our literature, heh.

These two polls are more polling-sampling than an actual vote.   If we wanted an official vote then it would had been like the logo vote, sending a private message and it being recorded on a public list.    Probably a single transferable vote like the Australian and Irish elections, due to the amount of options there can be.

I think it's too late to attempt something like this, given Beta is days off.  As well the poll only indicates marginal majority support for 8 billion.
I don't know if this has to be put to an official vote.  It seems like a lot of work for what could be a trivial detail.  So if it means we can avoid a long troublesome vote then I withdraw my support for 8 billion or any drastic scaling.

  

The best solution here is probably what we discussed prior to this superstition stuff and one that can't be rounded up to 4 billion.



We do know there is going to be 700-800 unclaimed stakes at this rate.    If we are concerned about people rounding up then the solution is simple:  3.8 billion coins.  Nobody rounds 3.8 up to 4.   They will round up 3.9 or 3.99, but not 3.8.    

3.8. also makes the superstitious people happy as 3 is an important number in both the west (Holy Trinity) and Asia (in Asia it means alive or birth) and 8 is a very important number in China.   so the 3 + 8 together could mean "the beginning of a prosperous new economy movement".


So it seems simple that you could burn 200 stakes, which would make every NEMholder wealthier through deflation, and the remaining unclaimed stakes (as per the newsletter #6) can be put in that investment fund if that is what ends up happening.

2008 08 08 08?
Do you remember Beijing Olympic Game?
It's opening ceremony was held at 2008 08 08 08 (PM 08Hr August 8th in 2008).
So-called superstition(Love for "8") can even influence on International Event.
Even though you deny superstition, you are influenced by it.
You had to watch the opening ceremony "at night" like the closing ceremony.
It was owing to the special/strong love for "8" of Chinese people.
China is a very big market, especially in crypto currency.
On stock market, if stock code no. include '8' (ex: 132880), it sells well.
Chinese like to cut the price of good in trading, but if the price includes '8', the discount happen less.
Seperately from our like/dislike, we need to pay attention to it only for the maximum growth of NEM coin.
I've heard the special love for '8' came from the similar pronunciation of "8" and "become rich" in Chinese.
I am not Chinese, and my lucky no. is not 8 but 7 like Western people.
But I believe the big power of no. "8".
Let's become rich!  

Working straight out from the math book, I agree. But I doubt so in reality.  I have given a lengthy discussion on this earlier on in the Nem Forum.

But all these is a matter of conjecture really. Nobody can be absolutely right.

It's hard to believe we now are discussing changing the quantity of coins. During the alpha testing, the PoI was adjusted using a base of four billion. If we alter this important number, won't this require further testing?

Thank you very much jabo.

https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered

This is the list of people from BTT that have registered.  If your name is on this list, then you registered correctly. 

If you are on AE, you don't have to do anything yet and your name won't be on that list. 

I think a first pole should be "Do we change the number of units? Yes or No" 

If people say no, it is over.  If people say yes, then we work on the number to change it too.

dat 25% spread doe 

Rookie mistake not noticing the tabs. But none the less, how do I determine that the code that I got went through? My name is not on the request list. And the final list I assume is just the regular stake holders list from months ago. Since it seems to have too many names, and from what I read a few days ago a lot of people still haven't claimed their stake.

Edit: I just realized that the issuance request if for the people who bought shares on the NXT exchange thing.

1st poll is (A) 4 billion  (B) 3,888,888,888  (C) 8 billion
2nd poll is (A) 3,990,000,000(4 billion)  (B) 8,000,000,000(8 billion)
In 1st poll, We have only to read the result as {(A)+(B)} vs (C).
If 1st poll is closed, surely somebody will say "Why there is not the choice of 3,888.......?"

EDIT/ In fact, the ideal poll is (A)4 billion(including 3,999..... and 3,88.....) vs (B) 8 billion.
And if (A) is the winner, then poll again (a) 4 billion (b) 3,999..... (c) 3,888....  
WOW. So Poll, Much Vote  

You have to click the tabs at the bottom to change pages.  It should had been set to the first tab.

Is this the final stake holder's list? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing#gid=14

If so, I claimed my stake last week, but I don't see my name in it. And at 797 it says ISSUEANCE HALTED !!!"

I haven't been on much in the last few months, even though I was very active and a regular here in the beginning. Did something change?

Hold the horses, as I suggested earlier, do we actually have a sponsor from the dev team willing to agree this is feasible with the time remaining? Granted I see it as a constant change and a regression test with JUnit, but that is my uninformed assessment.

Secondly, I know TaunSew and others maintain some of the documentation. We okay signing them up for something on short notice like this? I think we'd want a few of them to say "yeah sure we'll do it". I don't know if I have seen that yet either.

Lastly, can we just formalize the position with the regulators on the NEM team that the mechanics stay the same just scaled in proportion? A formal statement on that would be good to avoid a suckerpunch to the the AE prices. If it is changed before it hits an exchange there shouldn't be too much backlash as everyone will still get what they paid for in proportion. I think that statement would need to encompass alt nemo too right? Like cold wallet is 2000 instead of 1000? Not sure what else would be affected.

Given markets are never 100% efficient or subject to emotional influence, is there any chance we actually induce market cap reduction? I think the fact that the NXT AE assets are fixed and not doubling it should spare any sort of shock sell off. I suppose some of that could be tolerated with the understanding it increase long term success, still... but this one would most easily be resolved by the vote of people deciding if they are willing to risk what they put in. I don't see why this would happen, but anything is possible.