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There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?


No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.



People don't need handouts or brochures. People need simple and impossible to screw up mobile apps.

Agreed. Make a stupid simple mobile app that feels low intensity and designed to be social instead of institutional and your value will increase organically because of the viral effect. If people go "what is this thing in the top 100" on the store and its stupid simple when they run it because they heard about it from a friend, it will happen naturally. You get it in the top 100 in the first place just by making it a social currency by using gamification or some other simple / fun app that ties in to the real block chain. Maybe it's currency for an MMO game on mobile or whatever. As long as your API is solid, people can tie in to it in a variety of ways with viral apps on mobile. If it isn't easy and it isn't mobile, you'll never hit critical mass. You could have a variety of different apps that do different things (maybe one is a game, maybe one is a "friends bar tab" app) but both use the real block chain underneath. The same dollar that buys bubblegum can also buy a Ferrari, and that is the point. The more uses it has the more value it has.
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mining is so 2012-2013
planned alpha blockchain  restart : http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2324.0

I would have been running a node but I have been traveling all of July and will be traveling most of August. After that I'll be more active in running a node and making more transfers.
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
@lexicon

glad you made that edit lol

please stop with the new manager thing too. there isnt a need for one. and its insulting to patmast3r who basically is the lead guy even though he doesnt see himself as one.



Is he, I didn't know that, well maybe that's why things are getting fixed, i know Xtester has a lot of pull too. Let's give Pat the credit he is due. I call for Pat to be the OFFICIAL project manager. That's the only thing I think I disagree with you on, is we DO need a project manager, you say we don't need one because he in acting as one now? Let's REALLY give him the reigns, we need someone like him!!

Does anyone in the community have a problem with this. And he should be paid as well.



The dev and marketing teams are doing a great job managing a project of this complexity, IMHO. Feel free to give pat money, though Cheesy

Overall, I don't think we should rely too much on any centralized leadership. That won't be sustainable in the long run. That is probably why Satoshi, BCNext, UP all left.
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again. 

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough. 

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it. 

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't. 

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile. 

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.

+1 Nakamoto Cheesy
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TOKEN REQUESTS CAN NOW BE MADE - READ PROCEDURE BELOW

1) Send 1 NXT from the account you want the asset to be transfered to to NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH
This will pay for the tx fee and act as bookkeeping.

2) Send pm to xtester with patmast3r in cc.
The pm needs to include the tx id for the 1 NXT payment. Don't pm us saying "I payed 1 NXT. Send my token". INCLUDE THE TX ID!
This is what a TX ID looks like: 7136633102723179216. Plz don't send us something else.

We'll issue tokens once a week. Current plan is to issue tokens every monday. Plz send your request at least 24h in advance otherwise you'll have to wait for the next monday to come along.

xtester will check first, put you on the list, then I will recheck and issue the token.

Everyone that already pmed me before will need to pm again. I can't search all those pms in my inbox for every single request I hope you can understand that.



im a newbie abt NXT.. my question is following, pls be patient and help me,, thanks.

1. i go to NXTblocks.info and open a wallet,,,i set password and i got a wallet identifier: X6L5-F4T7------,
    (what is it for ? is it like my account on NXT-AE ? )

2. then, go to the account book, i add an account, ID : NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8
    ( is it the NXT address under my NXT-AE account: X6L5-----? )

3. i go to AE,, and find the NEMstake market,, but i cant find the buttons to BUY or SELL...
   only see the buying and selling orders..

4. so, i need to send 1nxt from my account ID: NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8
   and then, i will have the stake token in this account ID,, right ?

5. after i receive my token, how to sell ? because i cant find any BUY or SELL button in the NEMstake market...

thank you for your help.


You need to download the wallet. Did you download the wallet? If you have, then it is better to start from there. The nxtblocks.info is quite confusing. If I were you, I won't bother but just download a wallet and run from there.
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1. i go to NXTblocks.info and open a wallet,,,i set password and i got a wallet identifier: X6L5-F4T7------,
    (what is it for ? is it like my account on NXT-AE ? )

Think of identifier as a name of wallet file. Your wallet is on NXTblocks server, but it's encrypted by your password. The identifier downloads the correct wallet so you can decrypt it in your browser.

This has nothing to do with Nxt, but how NXTblocks wallet works (with a wallet file, like bitcoin).

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3. i go to AE,, and find the NEMstake market,, but i cant find the buttons to BUY or SELL...
   only see the buying and selling orders..

NXTblocks wallet hasn't yet implemented AE. It's upcoming feature.

Quote
4. so, i need to send 1nxt from my account ID: NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8
   and then, i will have the stake token in this account ID,, right ?

There is no such account http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8&c=USD

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5. after i receive my token, how to sell ? because i cant find any BUY or SELL button in the NEMstake market....

As someone suggested, use https://trade.secureae.com/ wallet. It's totally secure lightweight wallet too, as password never leaves your machine/browser (does local signing in the browser).  You don't need to download/install any software and no blockchain to worry about.




thank you very much Eadeqa !
now, i go to SAE,, and i open an account, info as attached photo.


so, i need send 1nxt to devs nxt acc. from this ID:1435..........
and claim the token,,

and i will receive the token in my ID 1435...... , right ?


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I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again. 

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough. 

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it. 

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't. 

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile. 

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.

Exactly. This is the main reason I can't wait to take a java mobile app course in a couple weeks!
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Here is some good and important news:

New Alpha Build 0.0.75 Available: http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2230.0

Enjoy.  Wink


Good news, Thanks for update.
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@lexicon

glad you made that edit lol

please stop with the new manager thing too. there isnt a need for one. and its insulting to patmast3r who basically is the lead guy even though he doesnt see himself as one.



Is he, I didn't know that, well maybe that's why things are getting fixed, i know Xtester has a lot of pull too. Let's give Pat the credit he is due. I call for Pat to be the OFFICIAL project manager. That's the only thing I think I disagree with you on, is we DO need a project manager, you say we don't need one because he in acting as one now? Let's REALLY give him the reigns, we need someone like him!!

Does anyone in the community have a problem with this. And he should be paid as well.

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Here is some good and important news:

New Alpha Build 0.0.75 Available: http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2230.0

Enjoy.  Wink
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There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?


No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.




People don't need handouts or brochures. People need simple and impossible to screw up mobile apps.

here it is

We do have an AMAZING DEVS!!!

The Promotional Team is top notch as well

They are still a relatively new Team, still adjusting to working without UP as the Project Manager. Once another Project Manager is appointed, I think that will really kick NEM into high gear, as if we already aren't operating at a high level, lol

Things are definitely all looking up from here!!!
legendary
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mining is so 2012-2013
I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again.  

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough.  

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it.  

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't.  

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile.  

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.

Yup, you're perfectly on point!!

One of the devs said the same thing not too far back!!!

That is really good news!
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I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again.  

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough.  

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it.  

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't.  

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile.  

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.

Yup, you're perfectly on point!!

One of the devs said the same thing not too far back!!!
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I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again. 

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough. 

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it. 

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't. 

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile. 

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.

Good points jabo38.

Agree with you. This is why we are already discussing the creation of some mobile apps for NEM.
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Im NOT complainig in ANY way, just looking for an update.

When do we expect to see the tokens arrive for those that applied?

GREAT JOB GETTING IT FIXED!!!
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mining is so 2012-2013
I have mentioned this before, but I would like to go over it again. 

I think a really big problem with the adaption of crypto currencies is that they aren't easy and safe enough. 

The iphone came out in 2008 and bitcoin in 2009.  I teach at an expensive private university in a high tech area so my population stats are skewed, but I have 100% smartphone adaption, yet still most of my students don't know hardly anything about bitcoin, if they have even heard of it. 

Why?  Smartphones add a lot of value to my students' daily lives and bitcoin doesn't. 

I am completely convinced that the future of all crypto is in mobile. 

For a crypto like NEM to be successful, it needs to be so easy to use that my 85 year old grandmother can use it on her iphone, yet I can leave my smart phone in the hands of my 4 year old nephew so he can play games, take pics and watch movies on it while I work.  And I need to have no fear that when I come back in 2 hours to retrieve my phone that all my money won't be gone.  (Both of these circumstances apply to today's method of credit cards, as well as credit cards being able to be carried in your pocket easily and being able to be used online)

For NEM to be a big success, it needs to be super safe, super easy to use, able to fit in my pocket and be mobile (smart phone app), and be able to used easily on websites.
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This thread was asleep for a min there. kinda, just for a min

but it's awake now, wow

NEM is on the move!

I don't want to hear any bitching today, clear

it's good to get things cleared up, now let's talk some ideas

KOD my man, What ya got? I'm sure you got something cooking!!

So far, it's one of the first days without bitching, right?!? Cheesy
We have to be on a good way. Smiley

Btw.:
THAT's exactly where the marketing of NEM should start at.

Have a look at all this "different" coins out there.
If you have a look at them, you will probably see, that they have actually all the same focus, when it comes to selling their product.
The focus of the marketing looks always like that (Of course, most time with even more "special features" in the same statistic)^^:



Please, tell me what you think, if you see that?
...And yes, this is the black coin, which I even think is probably one of the best (next to doge with it's meme) in presenting it self. Smiley
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1. i go to NXTblocks.info and open a wallet,,,i set password and i got a wallet identifier: X6L5-F4T7------,
    (what is it for ? is it like my account on NXT-AE ? )

Think of identifier as a name of wallet file. Your wallet is on NXTblocks server, but it's encrypted by your password. The identifier downloads the correct wallet so you can decrypt it in your browser.

This has nothing to do with Nxt, but how NXTblocks wallet works (with a wallet file, like bitcoin).

Quote
3. i go to AE,, and find the NEMstake market,, but i cant find the buttons to BUY or SELL...
   only see the buying and selling orders..

NXTblocks wallet hasn't yet implemented AE. It's upcoming feature.

Quote
4. so, i need to send 1nxt from my account ID: NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8
   and then, i will have the stake token in this account ID,, right ?

There is no such account http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8&c=USD

Quote
5. after i receive my token, how to sell ? because i cant find any BUY or SELL button in the NEMstake market....

As someone suggested, use https://trade.secureae.com/ wallet. It's totally secure lightweight wallet too, as password never leaves your machine/browser (does local signing in the browser).  You don't need to download/install any software and no blockchain to worry about.


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Nxt NEM
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maybe your post proves all this.
You just took one post and made your conclusions. And the result is wrong. (Maybe the same has happened with many issues)
If you would have read my earlier posts couple pages ago, you could have noticed that I wrote about these things as early as in March.
It is difficult to be happy with these circumstances.

Im sorry, but, certainly I'll not remember some or one post from march.

Probably most of us here will not remember. I dont remember what I eat at Friday  Shocked.

If your idea is really good, just dont give up. Tell it more than one time.

 Grin

eh ...
the posts in page 160 contains the quotes in question.

If the idea is "obvious" and "generally used", but no one in the community comments it, then it means that they think
a) "it's obvious and ofcourse we will consider it" or
b) "it sucks, it's not worth of trying, we know better, do not come here to give advices to us".




jkiol has a point there and i think hes right.. iv often posted ideas in threads and not gotten any response and its demotivating not to get any response. some saying "no thats bad.. what about this" is better than no response. it happens in many threads..

yea... that is kind of problem of this "decentralization" ie. these every-matter-threads. But also named boards (eg in Trello) have it difficult to solve the problem.



One more comment about this "If your idea is really good, just dont give up. Tell it more than one time."

It is not the correct solution to spam every week with one's ideas. Those ideas must be presented at the time, when the issue is at the most active phase. But, who notices every time that kind of activity? Not everyone, maybe some few active forum members only, coz everyone will get their passive periods sometimes.
That's why it is important that there are dedicated people, who will gather all the ideas of their areas during the "whole" project history.
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