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glad you made that edit lol

please stop with the new manager thing too. there isnt a need for one. and its insulting to patmast3r who basically is the lead guy even though he doesnt see himself as one.



Is he, I didn't know that, well maybe that's why things are getting fixed, i know Xtester has a lot of pull too. Let's give Pat the credit he is due. I call for Pat to be the OFFICIAL project manager. That's the only thing I think I disagree with you on, is we DO need a project manager, you say we don't need one because he in acting as one now? Let's REALLY give him the reigns, we need someone like him!!

Does anyone in the community have a problem with this. And he should be paid as well.



The dev and marketing teams are doing a great job managing a project of this complexity, IMHO. Feel free to give pat money, though Cheesy

Overall, I don't think we should rely too much on any centralized leadership. That won't be sustainable in the long run. That is probably why Satoshi, BCNext, UP all left.

I think that it is very obvious that you and the other programmers should be paid for what you made and maintain technology wise. This is a no brainer, you took your expertise and developed something remarkable.

Are we going to just leave the NEM system you made open, for anyone to change, just come on in and add to it, as someone would a wiki. Then someone can leave a note that says, this isn't working, this is incorrect, and so on.

Of course not. It's impossible for this to be done because their would be too many cooks in the kitchen, and security issues of course.

Can someone get with you guys and say hey, let's try this, and then you guys say, wow, great idea, we should do it, and in some circumstances that person be invited to join the team; again, of course.


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The same goes with the actual infrastructure of management. There has to be management. Not just maintaining the actual system, but with the management of the NEM community itself. There doesn't have to be designated leaders for it to merely survive, however, the same holds true with NEM Management, as with the wiki example above for the tech, when it comes to management of day to day operations regarding NEM.

We can't just have lexicon coming on and posting that we should do this, and we shouldn't do that, and then some agree and some not agree. Of course the Management team will take direction from the programmers and the community, but someone has to run the show.

For NEM to have any chance at changing the world, it will come from the developers of the tech, and the developers and actors of the management infrastructure. The day to day operations on both sides.

For this we need designated leaders. Without them, we have no chance against our competitors.

Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered, but all bounced back to a point, NEM even more so!

Yes, Bitcoin "made it" in some peoples eyes, but in my eyes, they have failed miserably at mass adoption. If Satoshi, had taken his premine, and assembled a team, to manage, and market Bitcoin. IMO we would see Bitcoin being used much more that the measly percentage of the world that is using it now. Satoshi left because it was the alpha of cryptos.

Nxt same thing. It is the beta of cryptos. It will stay there as well. It doesn't have enough funding to put any meaningful management team together. Period. It holds, and for a short while, it will hold a respectable postiton in the tiny crypto world, until it falls to better funded and more organized competitors.

NEM has the promotional funds to put together a meaningful management team. I don't see a better group of guys to head this management team up than what we have now. With Pat as the lead as Project Manager and Xtester as the Marketing Director. These guys are great guys that need to do this full time, or someone else does, if NEM is to change the world. They need to be doing this full time and they need to eat.

Like Ethereum is trying to produce Satoshi's 3rd and final product. Not alpha and not beta, but a finished product, NEM has that chance, to be that as well, with the amount of promotional funds that have been allocated.

Now it is time to put a meaningful, full time, team together, or NEM will suffer Nxt's fate the minute Ethereum and others come onto the scene.

I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.


Your proposition is something worthwhile looking into. Maybe we should just do it with a different twist instead. We leave NEM as it is, a decentralized ecosystem and have a centralized one that is fully financed by itself and for itself, hopefully with some catalyst funds coming in from NEM. That will be cool ain't it? After all, no one is going to live on fresh air and sunshine trying to promote NEM with no money.

Foundation ain't going to work either. It is too long and arduous a journey and gets politicized eventually. Just look at the Bitcoin Foundation. Not getting anywhere other than in-fighting. So long there is no money to be made, it will be hard to hire any good guys coming in to run the show.
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?
lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture
1+1=?
so im UP? lol
I wish

nope, just meant that after he left there has appeared an empty space...

ok lol

Yeah,

We need Pat to take that spot full time. Hopefully NEM can afford him. But I cant see why not. We have the funds and hes worth every penny

Xtester too, we need to start using these promotional funds

They are really are not available till launch, but that can be the plan

They are good and we need to secure them, even if the fuckers didn't send me my token yet LMAO

I want them, they are good. We have them, but they should be paid for what they do. The community can help for free. I will help for free. But if we want a quality team, we hire them, and fire them if they do bad, like anything else. Not that Id think theyd get fired lol.

They are rock solid. The community needs to speak up if they agree with me. We need to be making moves as a community. That's what makes NEM different!!! The community make moves, takes action. And we should be rewarding those who do the real work.

Those look like solid ones to me. Build a foundation!!

People act like anything that resembles a real business is the "old way" that we want to get away from

That's short sighted IMO

Hire some leaders, seems like a no brainer to me

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECENTRALIZED
AND NO SOLID MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE


I think it says in the development contract that the community is NOT in control of these funds, but that doesn't mean we can't voice our opinion about what they should be spent on. And guys, we have a boatload of money. It's not like I'm talking about wasting it!!

UI agree on all points except for boatload of money. We don;t have ANY money, as this coin isn't even released yet. Curious to see where things go from here. There are two things that would change my mind on NEM, who jumps on board, and if/when the coin gets released.

I agree with you there, thats why earlier I said once launch happens, then we will have money. Thanks for speaking up and agreeing with my major points, of get small stuff done fast, and get solid management team established.

Others need to weigh in on these issues, one way or the other, maybe the majority of the community disagrees with my points, or hopefully you see the importance of them, either way lets hear it guys. Who is for getting solid management structure set up.

So we as a community can direct them, and stand behind them when they need us. BUT there has to be a THEY, ie management to begin with, for us to work with. Again PAT = Project Manager ~ Xtester = Marketing Director
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You can now rate NEMstake on the new coinist.co Nxt AE Asset rating site. There is a space for Expert and User ratings:

https://coinist.co/nxt/nxt-assets/NEMstake-nxtj62bcnar34yw4rcfn
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there is this bit obsoleted guide by pat:

http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2290.0

Can someone from community prepare new one with screenshots?
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?
lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture
1+1=?
so im UP? lol
I wish

nope, just meant that after he left there has appeared an empty space...

ok lol

Yeah,

We need Pat to take that spot full time. Hopefully NEM can afford him. But I cant see why not. We have the funds and hes worth every penny

Xtester too, we need to start using these promotional funds

They are really are not available till launch, but that can be the plan

They are good and we need to secure them, even if the fuckers didn't send me my token yet LMAO

I want them, they are good. We have them, but they should be paid for what they do. The community can help for free. I will help for free. But if we want a quality team, we hire them, and fire them if they do bad, like anything else. Not that Id think theyd get fired lol.

They are rock solid. The community needs to speak up if they agree with me. We need to be making moves as a community. That's what makes NEM different!!! The community make moves, takes action. And we should be rewarding those who do the real work.

Those look like solid ones to me. Build a foundation!!

People act like anything that resembles a real business is the "old way" that we want to get away from

That's short sighted IMO

Hire some leaders, seems like a no brainer to me

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECENTRALIZED
AND NO SOLID MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE


I think it says in the development contract that the community is NOT in control of these funds, but that doesn't mean we can't voice our opinion about what they should be spent on. And guys, we have a boatload of money. It's not like I'm talking about wasting it!!

UI agree on all points except for boatload of money. We don;t have ANY money, as this coin isn't even released yet. Curious to see where things go from here. There are two things that would change my mind on NEM, who jumps on board, and if/when the coin gets released.
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?
lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture
1+1=?
so im UP? lol
I wish

nope, just meant that after he left there has appeared an empty space...

ok lol

Yeah,

We need Pat to take that spot full time. Hopefully NEM can afford him. But I cant see why not. We have the funds and hes worth every penny

Xtester too, we need to start using these promotional funds

They are really are not available till launch, but that can be the plan

They are good and we need to secure them, even if the fuckers didn't send me my token yet LMAO

I want them, they are good. We have them, but they should be paid for what they do. The community can help for free. I will help for free. But if we want a quality team, we hire them, and fire them if they do bad, like anything else. Not that Id think theyd get fired lol.

They are rock solid. The community needs to speak up if they agree with me. We need to be making moves as a community. That's what makes NEM different!!! The community make moves, takes action. And we should be rewarding those who do the real work.

Those look like solid ones to me. Build a foundation!!

People act like anything that resembles a real business is the "old way" that we want to get away from

That's short sighted IMO

Hire some leaders, seems like a no brainer to me

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECENTRALIZED
AND NO SOLID MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE


I think it says in the development contract that the community is NOT in control of these funds, but that doesn't mean we can't voice our opinion about what they should be spent on. And guys, we have a boatload of money. It's not like I'm talking about wasting it!!

  If people didn't realize yet, I try not to be a dumbass, and I can become impatient, it is one of my faults, yes.

  At the same time I demand things get done. I'm no nonsense - get things done - don't let the small stuff pile up - pay attention to the       
  details - dont miss the small things because big things are being done  - I speak up - BIG PICTURE -kind of guy
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?
lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture
1+1=?
so im UP? lol
I wish

nope, just meant that after he left there has appeared an empty space...
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?

lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture

1+1=?


so im UP? lol

I wish
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I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
huh?
I looked at the links and don't get it?

lexicon: Management
links: Utopianfuture

1+1=?
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Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered.



I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.


No you don't. No coin has surpassed BTC. It is the gold standard as far as crypto is concerned; there is nothing that has come close to beating it.

The BTC community has NOT suffered. NXT, that's a different story. NEM... isn't even a coin yet, so just hold your horses and wait until its actually a real thing before you decide it suffers from the same problems as the #1 cryptocurrency of all-time.

NEMstake has been decreasing in value over the past couple of months, just like almost every other altcoin. The only thing that really sets NEM apart from the crowd is that its not actually a real coin yet and already has a multimillion dollar market cap.

Having said that, I still like NEM and I expect big things in its future. Just cut down on the grandiosity a little bit, its embarrassing.

You think you could take that quote any further out of context  Smiley

Listen, BTC is the BEST SO FAR, it has the best head start, read what I wrote a little more carefully. It will be passed up btw.

If it's NEM, I don't know, you are totally offended that I'm stating that BTC could be doing better.

Calm down, BTC is the beginning, not the end. It was never meant to be the end. Satoshi was introducing a new tecnology, the blockchain, a trustless public ledger, he did not intend for Bitcoin itself to change the world on its own, but the blockchain, the public ledger and his some of his other innovations that were not included in Bitcoin btw, I beleive he did think would change the world. That is what we are talking about here.

Try to think into the future a little bit.

And my point wasn't to get into BTC debate, though I may have brought this on myself.

I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.


Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499


huh?

I looked at the links and don't get it?

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There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?


No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.



People don't need handouts or brochures. People need simple and impossible to screw up mobile apps.

Agreed. Make a stupid simple mobile app that feels low intensity and designed to be social instead of institutional and your value will increase organically because of the viral effect. If people go "what is this thing in the top 100" on the store and its stupid simple when they run it because they heard about it from a friend, it will happen naturally. You get it in the top 100 in the first place just by making it a social currency by using gamification or some other simple / fun app that ties in to the real block chain. Maybe it's currency for an MMO game on mobile or whatever. As long as your API is solid, people can tie in to it in a variety of ways with viral apps on mobile. If it isn't easy and it isn't mobile, you'll never hit critical mass. You could have a variety of different apps that do different things (maybe one is a game, maybe one is a "friends bar tab" app) but both use the real block chain underneath. The same dollar that buys bubblegum can also buy a Ferrari, and that is the point. The more uses it has the more value it has.

Totally agree. Nowadays even elderly people in Finland pay their bills with tablets and are very willing to use smartphones, even though they are really not into technology itself it has and will change their ways to consume. I don´t see any options than focusing especially in UI and Mobile apps, normal folks don't really care about sophisticated functions if they cannot even manage to install those applications by themselves.
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Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered.



I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.


No you don't. No coin has surpassed BTC. It is the gold standard as far as crypto is concerned; there is nothing that has come close to beating it.

The BTC community has NOT suffered. NXT, that's a different story. NEM... isn't even a coin yet, so just hold your horses and wait until its actually a real thing before you decide it suffers from the same problems as the #1 cryptocurrency of all-time.

NEMstake has been decreasing in value over the past couple of months, just like almost every other altcoin. The only thing that really sets NEM apart from the crowd is that its not actually a real coin yet and already has a multimillion dollar market cap.

Having said that, I still like NEM and I expect big things in its future. Just cut down on the grandiosity a little bit, its embarrassing.

You think you could take that quote any further out of context  Smiley

Listen, BTC is the BEST SO FAR, it has the best head start, read what I wrote a little more carefully. It will be passed up btw.

If it's NEM, I don't know, you are totally offended that I'm stating that BTC could be doing better.

Calm down, BTC is the beginning, not the end. It was never meant to be the end. Satoshi was introducing a new tecnology, the blockchain, a trustless public ledger, he did not intend for Bitcoin itself to change the world on its own, but the blockchain, the public ledger and his some of his other innovations that were not included in Bitcoin btw, I beleive he did think would change the world. That is what we are talking about here.

Try to think into the future a little bit.

And my point wasn't to get into BTC debate, though I may have brought this on myself.

I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.


Your statement may be one result to the claims or complaints, which have emerged in past few days. The frequency of a word "utopian" may be used as a measurement  Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8050911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8054499
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If NXT went back to 7 cents then we would have a $1600 NEMstake.
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Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered.



I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.


No you don't. No coin has surpassed BTC. It is the gold standard as far as crypto is concerned; there is nothing that has come close to beating it.

The BTC community has NOT suffered. NXT, that's a different story. NEM... isn't even a coin yet, so just hold your horses and wait until its actually a real thing before you decide it suffers from the same problems as the #1 cryptocurrency of all-time.

NEMstake has been decreasing in value over the past couple of months, just like almost every other altcoin. The only thing that really sets NEM apart from the crowd is that its not actually a real coin yet and already has a multimillion dollar market cap.

Having said that, I still like NEM and I expect big things in its future. Just cut down on the grandiosity a little bit, its embarrassing.

You think you could take that quote any further out of context  Smiley

Listen, BTC is the BEST SO FAR, it has the best head start, read what I wrote a little more carefully. It will be passed up btw.

If it's NEM, I don't know, you are totally offended that I'm stating that BTC could be doing better.

Calm down, BTC is the beginning, not the end. It was never meant to be the end. Satoshi was introducing a new tecnology, the blockchain, a trustless public ledger, he did not intend for Bitcoin itself to change the world on its own, but the blockchain, the public ledger and his some of his other innovations that were not included in Bitcoin btw, I beleive he did think would change the world. That is what we are talking about here.

Try to think into the future a little bit.

And my point wasn't to get into BTC debate, though I may have brought this on myself.

I am simply stating that NEM needs a full time Management team. That's all.
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1. i go to NXTblocks.info and open a wallet,,,i set password and i got a wallet identifier: X6L5-F4T7------,
    (what is it for ? is it like my account on NXT-AE ? )

Think of identifier as a name of wallet file. Your wallet is on NXTblocks server, but it's encrypted by your password. The identifier downloads the correct wallet so you can decrypt it in your browser.

This has nothing to do with Nxt, but how NXTblocks wallet works (with a wallet file, like bitcoin).

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3. i go to AE,, and find the NEMstake market,, but i cant find the buttons to BUY or SELL...
   only see the buying and selling orders..

NXTblocks wallet hasn't yet implemented AE. It's upcoming feature.

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4. so, i need to send 1nxt from my account ID: NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8
   and then, i will have the stake token in this account ID,, right ?

There is no such account http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-KKFH-M4RE-HREC-CK8Z8&c=USD

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5. after i receive my token, how to sell ? because i cant find any BUY or SELL button in the NEMstake market....

As someone suggested, use https://trade.secureae.com/ wallet. It's totally secure lightweight wallet too, as password never leaves your machine/browser (does local signing in the browser).  You don't need to download/install any software and no blockchain to worry about.




thank you very much Eadeqa !
now, i go to SAE,, and i open an account, info as attached photo.


so, i need send 1nxt to devs nxt acc. from this ID:1435..........
and claim the token,,

and i will receive the token in my ID 1435...... , right ?



Yes, if you click on the ID it will copy it to clipboard. Make sure it's correct. You can send Nxt to this account,, then do one outgoing transaction (maybe buy a stake called "love"  to protect your account with 256 bit public key).

Don't lose your username/password

Before asking for token, you should send some (small amount) nxt to it and then buy something, just to make sure everything is working


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There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?


No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.



People don't need handouts or brochures. People need simple and impossible to screw up mobile apps.

Agreed. Make a stupid simple mobile app that feels low intensity and designed to be social instead of institutional and your value will increase organically because of the viral effect. If people go "what is this thing in the top 100" on the store and its stupid simple when they run it because they heard about it from a friend, it will happen naturally. You get it in the top 100 in the first place just by making it a social currency by using gamification or some other simple / fun app that ties in to the real block chain. Maybe it's currency for an MMO game on mobile or whatever. As long as your API is solid, people can tie in to it in a variety of ways with viral apps on mobile. If it isn't easy and it isn't mobile, you'll never hit critical mass. You could have a variety of different apps that do different things (maybe one is a game, maybe one is a "friends bar tab" app) but both use the real block chain underneath. The same dollar that buys bubblegum can also buy a Ferrari, and that is the point. The more uses it has the more value it has.

The mobile app well definitely have to be developed in stages.
At first the focus would probably be for sending NEM to other people as in the beginning there won't be merchants to accept NEM.
After time that will hopefully change and that's when the app has to change to act as kind of a POS system or work together with such systems.

More important - and harder - than just having an app is giving that app utility.

I also don't see too much need for a mobile App before a couple of months after launch (yes I said it - after launch Smiley)
Of course this is only my opinion so might cause a heated discussion.
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Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered.



I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.


No you don't. No coin has surpassed BTC. It is the gold standard as far as crypto is concerned; there is nothing that has come close to beating it.

The BTC community has NOT suffered. NXT, that's a different story. NEM... isn't even a coin yet, so just hold your horses and wait until its actually a real thing before you decide it suffers from the same problems as the #1 cryptocurrency of all-time.

NEMstake has been decreasing in value over the past couple of months, just like almost every other altcoin. The only thing that really sets NEM apart from the crowd is that its not actually a real coin yet and already has a multimillion dollar market cap.

Having said that, I still like NEM and I expect big things in its future. Just cut down on the grandiosity a little bit, its embarrassing.
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glad you made that edit lol

please stop with the new manager thing too. there isnt a need for one. and its insulting to patmast3r who basically is the lead guy even though he doesnt see himself as one.



Is he, I didn't know that, well maybe that's why things are getting fixed, i know Xtester has a lot of pull too. Let's give Pat the credit he is due. I call for Pat to be the OFFICIAL project manager. That's the only thing I think I disagree with you on, is we DO need a project manager, you say we don't need one because he in acting as one now? Let's REALLY give him the reigns, we need someone like him!!

Does anyone in the community have a problem with this. And he should be paid as well.



The dev and marketing teams are doing a great job managing a project of this complexity, IMHO. Feel free to give pat money, though Cheesy

Overall, I don't think we should rely too much on any centralized leadership. That won't be sustainable in the long run. That is probably why Satoshi, BCNext, UP all left.

I think that it is very obvious that you and the other programmers should be paid for what you made and maintain technology wise. This is a no brainer, you took your expertise and developed something remarkable.

Are we going to just leave the NEM system you made open, for anyone to change, just come on in and add to it, as someone would a wiki. Then someone can leave a note that says, this isn't working, this is incorrect, and so on.

Of course not. It's impossible for this to be done because their would be too many cooks in the kitchen, and security issues of course.

Can someone get with you guys and say hey, let's try this, and then you guys say, wow, great idea, we should do it, and in some circumstances that person be invited to join the team; again, of course.


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The same goes with the actual infrastructure of management. There has to be management. Not just maintaining the actual system, but with the management of the NEM community itself. There doesn't have to be designated leaders for it to merely survive, however, the same holds true with NEM Management, as with the wiki example above for the tech, when it comes to management of day to day operations regarding NEM.

We can't just have lexicon coming on and posting that we should do this, and we shouldn't do that, and then some agree and some not agree. Of course the Management team will take direction from the programmers and the community, but someone has to run the show.

For NEM to have any chance at changing the world, it will come from the developers of the tech, and the developers and actors of the management infrastructure. The day to day operations on both sides.

For this we need designated leaders. Without them, we have no chance against our competitors.

Take Satoshi, BCnext, UP, for example. They left and these communities suffered, but all bounced back to a point, NEM even more so!

Yes, Bitcoin "made it" in some peoples eyes, but in my eyes, they have failed miserably at mass adoption. If Satoshi, had taken his premine, and assembled a team, to manage, and market Bitcoin. IMO we would see Bitcoin being used much more that the measly percentage of the world that is using it now. Satoshi left because it was the alpha of cryptos.

Nxt same thing. It is the beta of cryptos. It will stay there as well. It doesn't have enough funding to put any meaningful management team together. Period. It holds, and for a short while, it will hold a respectable postiton in the tiny crypto world, until it falls to better funded and more organized competitors.

NEM has the promotional funds to put together a meaningful management team. I don't see a better group of guys to head this management team up than what we have now. With Pat as the lead as Project Manager and Xtester as the Marketing Director. These guys are great guys that need to do this full time, or someone else does, if NEM is to change the world. They need to be doing this full time and they need to eat.

Like Ethereum is trying to produce Satoshi's 3rd and final product. Not alpha and not beta, but a finished product, NEM has that chance, to be that as well, with the amount of promotional funds that have been allocated.

Now it is time to put a meaningful, full time, team together, or NEM will suffer Nxt's fate the minute Ethereum and others come onto the scene.

I see this so clearly, how others don't...well... it just baffles me. I'll leave it at that.
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