Looking good - one question though: who is Lorenz Stössel?
Excellent work, thank you!!!
Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1874. (Read 2984910 times)
Looking good - one question though: who is Lorenz Stössel?
Excellent work, thank you!!!
I think XNM would be the most recognizable, (NM still kinda spells out nem if you try to pronounce it).
Though I may be in the minority.
XEM isn't bad, I just personally like the way XNM looks.
Edit: Don't think this is the right link:
XNM Though I may be in the minority.
XEM isn't bad, I just personally like the way XNM looks.
Edit: Don't think this is the right link:
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But when you look at the API in the code Google is using XBT. https://code.google.com/p/xbt/
Good news at a one click distance. 
REally nice soft.
It'll be very easy to those that dont have lots of skills on computing.
I hope I can finish today the Archlinux installation on my raspi cause Raspibian is a kick at da bows!!! I cant change the keyboard layout on raspibian and arch is really more friendly at this point.
Really good news, that should bring lot of newbies involved and some HYPE!
Looking good - one question though: who is Lorenz Stössel?
Good news at a one click distance.
REally nice soft.
It'll be very easy to those that dont have lots of skills on computing.
I hope I can finish today the Archlinux installation on my raspi cause Raspibian is a kick at da bows!!! I cant change the keyboard layout on raspibian and arch is really more friendly at this point.
Good news at a one click distance.
I think XNM would be the most recognizable, (NM still kinda spells out nem if you try to pronounce it).
Though I may be in the minority.
XEM isn't bad, I just personally like the way XNM looks.
Edit: Don't think this is the right link:
Though I may be in the minority.
XEM isn't bad, I just personally like the way XNM looks.
Edit: Don't think this is the right link:
Quote
But when you look at the API in the code Google is using XBT. https://code.google.com/p/xbt/
Hey guys and pretty ladies (KkotNEM),
I wanted to talk about our abbreviation to use on exchanges. There is a really big problem using the abbreviation “NEM” on exchanges. Technically, according to international conventions, that would mean that NEM is the official sponsored country of Niger (a very poor country in Africa). Here is the wiki article on the standards for currency abbreviations. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
The currencies on FOREX and other major international currency exchanges have three letters. The first two letters represent the countries international abbreviation. The United States is "US". The third letter represents the currency.
US (United States) + D (dollars) = USD
IN (India) + R (rupee) = INR
JP (Japan) + Y (yen) = JPY
CN (China) + Y (yaun) = CNY
SA (Saudi Arabia) + R (riyal) = SAR
ZA (South Africa) + R (rand) = ZAR
In this last example South Africa was not allowed to use (SA) because it was registered to Saudi Arabia. Therefor South Africa settled with ZA. It is a first come first served system.
These country codes are not just for currencies. It is the internationally recognized country code. These codes are used for things like websites too.
For instance the following.
http://www.state.nj.us/ = US website (New Jersey State)
http://www.mu.ac.in/ = Indian website (Mumbai Uni)
http://www.u-tokyo.ac.jp/en/ = Japanese website (Tokyo Uni)
http://en.shu.edu.cn/Default.aspx = Chinese website (Shanghai Uni)
http://ksu.edu.sa/ = Saudia Arabia website (King Saud Uni)
http://www.uct.ac.za/ = South African website (Capetown Uni)
Now here is the important part. "NE" is already claimed for the country of Niger. So if we say "NEM" people will think it is the official currency of a very poor country in Africa.
http://uam.refer.ne/ = Niger website (Niamey University)
Currencies/commodities that don't have a country start with "X" thus
XAU = Gold
XAG = Silver
XPD = Palladium
XDR = International Monetary Fund
XUA = African Development Fund
XBD = European Bonds
XRP = Ripple
XCP = Counter Party
XBT = Bitcoin
And so on. There are actually lots and lots of tickers codes that aren't officially started from a country that start with an "X".
Most people think that Bitcoin is “BTC” and in popular culture it is. But really on financial markets Bitcoin has become XBT. Kraken uses it because Kraken is trying hard to be regulated. Google’s webpage about Bitcoin says BTC. https://www.google.com/finance?q=CURRENCY:BTC
But when you look at the API in the code Google is using XBT. https://code.google.com/p/xbt/
This is because Google wants regular people to look at their page, but major international money exchanges to use their API.
I for one am planning on NEM being huge in the future, so I want to avoid the confusing situation of having two ticker abbreviations (one for small bitcoin related exchanges, and one for major international exchanges). The difference in volume is many zeros and lots of money for us.
If we want NEM to be recognized internationally, it cannot start with NE as that is for Niger.
Monero recently went through this discussion too and so they changed their ticker code from MRO to XMR.
The ticker for NEM needs to start with an X. The possibilities are XNM, XEM, XNE. Of these, I really think XEM looks a lot better. Other people on Trello thought so too.
This doesn’t mean we are changing our name. Monero is still called Monero, just the ticker is XMR. In the same way NEM’s name will still be NEM, just the ticker symbol could be XEM.
I wanted to talk about our abbreviation to use on exchanges. There is a really big problem using the abbreviation “NEM” on exchanges. Technically, according to international conventions, that would mean that NEM is the official sponsored country of Niger (a very poor country in Africa). Here is the wiki article on the standards for currency abbreviations. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
The currencies on FOREX and other major international currency exchanges have three letters. The first two letters represent the countries international abbreviation. The United States is "US". The third letter represents the currency.
US (United States) + D (dollars) = USD
IN (India) + R (rupee) = INR
JP (Japan) + Y (yen) = JPY
CN (China) + Y (yaun) = CNY
SA (Saudi Arabia) + R (riyal) = SAR
ZA (South Africa) + R (rand) = ZAR
In this last example South Africa was not allowed to use (SA) because it was registered to Saudi Arabia. Therefor South Africa settled with ZA. It is a first come first served system.
These country codes are not just for currencies. It is the internationally recognized country code. These codes are used for things like websites too.
For instance the following.
http://www.state.nj.us/ = US website (New Jersey State)
http://www.mu.ac.in/ = Indian website (Mumbai Uni)
http://www.u-tokyo.ac.jp/en/ = Japanese website (Tokyo Uni)
http://en.shu.edu.cn/Default.aspx = Chinese website (Shanghai Uni)
http://ksu.edu.sa/ = Saudia Arabia website (King Saud Uni)
http://www.uct.ac.za/ = South African website (Capetown Uni)
Now here is the important part. "NE" is already claimed for the country of Niger. So if we say "NEM" people will think it is the official currency of a very poor country in Africa.
http://uam.refer.ne/ = Niger website (Niamey University)
Currencies/commodities that don't have a country start with "X" thus
XAU = Gold
XAG = Silver
XPD = Palladium
XDR = International Monetary Fund
XUA = African Development Fund
XBD = European Bonds
XRP = Ripple
XCP = Counter Party
XBT = Bitcoin
And so on. There are actually lots and lots of tickers codes that aren't officially started from a country that start with an "X".
Most people think that Bitcoin is “BTC” and in popular culture it is. But really on financial markets Bitcoin has become XBT. Kraken uses it because Kraken is trying hard to be regulated. Google’s webpage about Bitcoin says BTC. https://www.google.com/finance?q=CURRENCY:BTC
But when you look at the API in the code Google is using XBT. https://code.google.com/p/xbt/
This is because Google wants regular people to look at their page, but major international money exchanges to use their API.
I for one am planning on NEM being huge in the future, so I want to avoid the confusing situation of having two ticker abbreviations (one for small bitcoin related exchanges, and one for major international exchanges). The difference in volume is many zeros and lots of money for us.
If we want NEM to be recognized internationally, it cannot start with NE as that is for Niger.
Monero recently went through this discussion too and so they changed their ticker code from MRO to XMR.
The ticker for NEM needs to start with an X. The possibilities are XNM, XEM, XNE. Of these, I really think XEM looks a lot better. Other people on Trello thought so too.
This doesn’t mean we are changing our name. Monero is still called Monero, just the ticker is XMR. In the same way NEM’s name will still be NEM, just the ticker symbol could be XEM.
There's no problem with expressing opinions as long as we can keep it civilized. In fact feedback is of utmost importance in the process of finding the best way to move forward.
Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
i was all for a modded thread. What is the difference between cfa and new accounts created to impose beliefs for whatever reason ?Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
In retrospect, where do you draw the line ?
Here is the line: no other post was deleted except from CfA's and posts containing wallet addresses which are forbidden by the btt rules and could result in closing of this thread.
Yes reading the rules, acc info looks like protecting BTT users.
There's no such thing as a "Fascist Ryukyu" - Ryukyu did not exist during the second world war and any interpretation of what a Fascist Ryukyu flag is speculative.
In fact there is no such thing as a 'Fascist Flag' unless we count Legionnaire Romania (which never came into power). Mussolini's Italy is a retrospective invention (like the concept of a "Byzantine Empire" when it always was the Roman Empire until 1453) as it was always a Monarchy under Vittorio and it used the Monarchical Flag.
Nazi Germany's Swastika flag, although slightly modeled off Imperial Germany, utilized Proletarian colors and in that regard more resembled the Soviet Union's flag than any other contemporary flag in the world.
Am I defending the Tomoe? No, actually I range between dislike or indifference but I don't voice this dissent because I am under the assumption that it'll be changed.
In fact there is no such thing as a 'Fascist Flag' unless we count Legionnaire Romania (which never came into power). Mussolini's Italy is a retrospective invention (like the concept of a "Byzantine Empire" when it always was the Roman Empire until 1453) as it was always a Monarchy under Vittorio and it used the Monarchical Flag.
Nazi Germany's Swastika flag, although slightly modeled off Imperial Germany, utilized Proletarian colors and in that regard more resembled the Soviet Union's flag than any other contemporary flag in the world.
Am I defending the Tomoe? No, actually I range between dislike or indifference but I don't voice this dissent because I am under the assumption that it'll be changed.
There's no problem with expressing opinions as long as we can keep it civilized. In fact feedback is of utmost importance in the process of finding the best way to move forward.
Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
i was all for a modded thread. What is the difference between cfa and new accounts created to impose beliefs for whatever reason ?Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
In retrospect, where do you draw the line ?
Here is the line: no other post was deleted except from CfA's and posts containing wallet addresses which are forbidden by the btt rules and could result in closing of this thread.
There's no problem with expressing opinions as long as we can keep it civilized. In fact feedback is of utmost importance in the process of finding the best way to move forward.
Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
i was all for a modded thread. What is the difference between cfa and new accounts created to impose beliefs for whatever reason ?Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
In retrospect, where do you draw the line ?
There's no problem with expressing opinions as long as we can keep it civilized. In fact feedback is of utmost importance in the process of finding the best way to move forward.
Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
Update: To be fair, the above statement only qualifies if you are not CfA.
note to everyone: check post history of this user.
track record is entirely posts like these so please dont rise to this attempt to splinter the community over the logo again which has been forgotten about.
track record is entirely posts like these so please dont rise to this attempt to splinter the community over the logo again which has been forgotten about.
Speaking of which, did they decide this was the final and official logo?
no. Like I said a thousand times - it's interim.
Sure, sorry for my criticism! I like a lot simple but formative logos like ripple, darkcoin, maidesafe etc
what criticism? lol
I wanted to express that I do not want to criticize NEM
note to everyone: check post history of this user.
track record is entirely posts like these so please dont rise to this attempt to splinter the community over the logo again which has been forgotten about.
track record is entirely posts like these so please dont rise to this attempt to splinter the community over the logo again which has been forgotten about.
Speaking of which, did they decide this was the final and official logo?
no. Like I said a thousand times - it's interim.
Sure, sorry for my criticism! I like a lot simple but formative logos like ripple, darkcoin, maidesafe etc
Please all don't quote the reply. This forum is not about facism. Looks like we have fallen into his trap to display the banner title for one page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
I don't agree with this approach at all.
Yeah. For once I have to agree with ARGpentem.
Please don't delete the page. That will only give the trolls fodder. This can be dealt with easily.
The page that our friend googlesearch linked to contains an artist's rendering of flags for various countries if they succumbed to fascism. That same page also contains flags for countries like the United States, Canada, Australia, and Tawain if they were under fascist control (which they are not and never were).
The specific flag our friend posted is not real. It merges the Nazi colors with the flag from a Japanese kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryukyu_Kingdom. Since the Ryukyu kingdom is based in Japan, it's not surprising that its flag had inspiration from the tomoe.
But, saying that the tomoe represents fascism because of an artist's rendering is senseless. I might as well just create a website saying that "googlesearch" is a fascist and citing it.
The whole point is about linking facscism with our movement. This is all about perception and psyche. It has nothing to do with the 3 big pictures but the title is good enough to say something about the 3 pictures. Just remember, not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking, or have the time to ponder over what this guy is trying to do. Pull yourself out of the box and imagine you are cursorily glancing another site with such a big banner.
"not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking" - this is a trait of any authoritative regime such as fascist or communist. I guess you are new to the decentralized culture. I have to say you are not suited if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude.
On the logo rendering, I think these logo rendering horrify rockethead and the like because while they are fake, they are convincing. If doing something similar to American and Canada flag, you would have a laugh at most.
what do you mean with this "if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude" ?
If others are not thought, then what the heck is meant by "Marketing"?
the capability to see and make a decision by himself herself is something I hold dear. you may think someone is easily influenced or can't make a decision but even if that is true in some minor cases, it is better for that person to make a mistake and learn than not allowing him making a decision himself. that is something shared by the core libertarian early btc supporter group. Censorship something because you think it is not fit for the general population does not fit well with me coz you assume you know better and can "think for others". Can't say I speak for anyone but that is the gist of one against "censorship" argument I understand.
You mean that in "the decentralized culture" we should trust that the people here can think.
How about when crypto coins are tried to take to the outer world, outside of this "the decentralized culture"? Those people should become the new nemstrs...
Until his day all the wars have been cretaed by the manipulation of the common people. Hitler Goebbels spoke and people believed. It has been so easy to get the people to movments. Do you think that the people of today and people of media world are much wiser and they cannot be manipulated. It may be a very light push to some direction... And there they go!
That "light push" can be whatever, even a manipulated logo.
Please all don't quote the reply. This forum is not about facism. Looks like we have fallen into his trap to display the banner title for one page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
I don't agree with this approach at all.
Yeah. For once I have to agree with ARGpentem.
Please don't delete the page. That will only give the trolls fodder. This can be dealt with easily.
The page that our friend googlesearch linked to contains an artist's rendering of flags for various countries if they succumbed to fascism. That same page also contains flags for countries like the United States, Canada, Australia, and Tawain if they were under fascist control (which they are not and never were).
The specific flag our friend posted is not real. It merges the Nazi colors with the flag from a Japanese kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryukyu_Kingdom. Since the Ryukyu kingdom is based in Japan, it's not surprising that its flag had inspiration from the tomoe.
But, saying that the tomoe represents fascism because of an artist's rendering is senseless. I might as well just create a website saying that "googlesearch" is a fascist and citing it.
The whole point is about linking facscism with our movement. This is all about perception and psyche. It has nothing to do with the 3 big pictures but the title is good enough to say something about the 3 pictures. Just remember, not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking, or have the time to ponder over what this guy is trying to do. Pull yourself out of the box and imagine you are cursorily glancing another site with such a big banner.
"not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking" - this is a trait of any authoritative regime such as fascist or communist. I guess you are new to the decentralized culture. I have to say you are not suited if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude.
On the logo rendering, I think these logo rendering horrify rockethead and the like because while they are fake, they are convincing. If doing something similar to American and Canada flag, you would have a laugh at most.
what do you mean with this "if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude" ?
If others are not thought, then what the heck is meant by "Marketing"?
There is no hierarchy in a decentralized culture and therefore people can and will think for themselves making the job of "thinking for others" (managers etc) redundant in a decentralized culture.
Those who try to think for others in a decentralized culture will not fit in well, the same that those who think for themselves do not fit in well in a centralised culture.
Atlests I think that's what he means lol
I like this. Google, Facebook, Apple have a plenty of resources and capability to make something way more friendly, safe, faster than bitcoin but it is not going to replace bitcoin due to the fundamental organization principle.
Please all don't quote the reply. This forum is not about facism. Looks like we have fallen into his trap to display the banner title for one page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
@xtester, please delete this whole page!
I don't agree with this approach at all.
Yeah. For once I have to agree with ARGpentem.
Please don't delete the page. That will only give the trolls fodder. This can be dealt with easily.
The page that our friend googlesearch linked to contains an artist's rendering of flags for various countries if they succumbed to fascism. That same page also contains flags for countries like the United States, Canada, Australia, and Tawain if they were under fascist control (which they are not and never were).
The specific flag our friend posted is not real. It merges the Nazi colors with the flag from a Japanese kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryukyu_Kingdom. Since the Ryukyu kingdom is based in Japan, it's not surprising that its flag had inspiration from the tomoe.
But, saying that the tomoe represents fascism because of an artist's rendering is senseless. I might as well just create a website saying that "googlesearch" is a fascist and citing it.
The whole point is about linking facscism with our movement. This is all about perception and psyche. It has nothing to do with the 3 big pictures but the title is good enough to say something about the 3 pictures. Just remember, not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking, or have the time to ponder over what this guy is trying to do. Pull yourself out of the box and imagine you are cursorily glancing another site with such a big banner.
"not all readers are as smart and as deep thinking" - this is a trait of any authoritative regime such as fascist or communist. I guess you are new to the decentralized culture. I have to say you are not suited if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude.
On the logo rendering, I think these logo rendering horrify rockethead and the like because while they are fake, they are convincing. If doing something similar to American and Canada flag, you would have a laugh at most.
what do you mean with this "if you do not rid of the "think for others" attitude" ?
If others are not thought, then what the heck is meant by "Marketing"?
the capability to see and make a decision by himself herself is something I hold dear. you may think someone is easily influenced or can't make a decision but even if that is true in some minor cases, it is better for that person to make a mistake and learn than not allowing him making a decision himself. that is something shared by the core libertarian early btc supporter group. Censorship something because you think it is not fit for the general population does not fit well with me coz you assume you know better and can "think for others". Can't say I speak for anyone but that is the gist of one against "censorship" argument I understand.
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