Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1889. (Read 2984910 times)

Quote from: patmast3r on July 09, 2014, 06:08:55 AM

Can we do a raffle type thing? Posting a transaction id being the raffle ticket, name gets added to a list, name picked just before beta winner gets a stake. One ticket per user. We could get the word out and get tons of people to try the alpha.

dude that's a pretty slick idea.
We were looking for way to get users to use the testnet a bit more and if every tx is a lottery ticket then this would be a great incentive.

care to put that on trello ?

us bother, not home atm but will do it shortly. We could do a second one for 2 stakes between beta and full launch. Let everyone know now that there is a second and they will come back and see how much Ben has progressed just between alps and beta. Plus that's a shit ton of money so word could really get around

I see you're on your phone again ?

Ben = NEM !

albertdros

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what's happening here? Long time lurker, have a stake as 1 of the first replies in the very first NEM topic, didn't request token because I am waiting for the final release. Should I be worried?

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Can we do a raffle type thing? Posting a transaction id being the raffle ticket, name gets added to a list, name picked just before beta winner gets a stake. One ticket per user. We could get the word out and get tons of people to try the alpha.

Good iead

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Quote from: mladen00 on July 09, 2014, 05:48:00 AM

Can we do a raffle type thing? Posting a transaction id being the raffle ticket, name gets added to a list, name picked just before beta winner gets a stake. One ticket per user. We could get the word out and get tons of people to try the alpha.

dude that's a pretty slick idea.
We were looking for way to get users to use the testnet a bit more and if every tx is a lottery ticket then this would be a great incentive.

care to put that on trello ?

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Quote from: cryptomite on July 09, 2014, 05:30:48 AM

We have a FINAL stakeholder list.

IT is called FINAL for a reason. The puppets have already received their stake via the asset exchange!!!

We did this auditing for months on end

I myself was accused of being a sockpuppet in NODE. I posted like a manic until they took me seriously. Then they took me out of the puppet list. It made me and many others very angry. Want to know what caused me to be flagged? I used TOR, like I always do. That's the large majority of their puppets. TOR!! Do you guys want to be lumped into that mess. This is what it's gonna play out like: "NEM and NODE are having a really hard time with sockpuppets, probably as bad as Nxt, they just made more accounts this time" I can hear it now!!!

It is time we market NEM. Not cause yet another controversy!!!

But hey, I'm in the market to buy more stakes, and this will do nothing but cause the price to go down. I'm pretty sure you guys know this and should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!

BTW I'm no puppet and I got my stake already, but I didn't sell it. Stop %%$&*ing around guys. PLEASE!! Can we do something regarding promotion?

Tell me what is on the agenda for promotion??

+1

few peoples are trying to dump the price of nem stake

their is puppet problem again? when happen this?? Huh

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Quote from: mladen00 on July 09, 2014, 05:48:00 AM

Can we do a raffle type thing? Posting a transaction id being the raffle ticket, name gets added to a list, name picked just before beta winner gets a stake. One ticket per user. We could get the word out and get tons of people to try the alpha.

This is a wonderful idea!!

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Quote from: cryptomite on July 09, 2014, 05:30:48 AM

We have a FINAL stakeholder list.

IT is called FINAL for a reason. The puppets have already received their stake via the asset exchange!!!

We did this auditing for months on end

I myself was accused of being a sockpuppet in NODE. I posted like a manic until they took me seriously. Then they took me out of the puppet list. It made me and many others very angry. Want to know what caused me to be flagged? I used TOR, like I always do. That's the large majority of their puppets. TOR!! Do you guys want to be lumped into that mess. This is what it's gonna play out like: "NEM and NODE are having a really hard time with sockpuppets, probably as bad as Nxt, they just made more accounts this time" I can hear it now!!!

It is time we market NEM. Not cause yet another controversy!!!

But hey, I'm in the market to buy more stakes, and this will do nothing but cause the price to go down. I'm pretty sure you guys know this and should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!

BTW I'm no puppet and I got my stake already, but I didn't sell it. Stop %%$&*ing around guys. PLEASE!! Can we do something regarding promotion?

Tell me what is on the agenda for promotion??

+1

few peoples are trying to dump the price of nem stake

Gentleman, let's just calm down.

First of all, I haven't been in the thread for awhile. Who is the ARGpentem? I am considering that because you didn't read over this thread like I just did, maybe you didn't notice. He's playing you like a fiddle. Go read over his posts. This guy created himself, very purposefully, and carefully. This is my observation. I already got my stake too, so I can say what I want without having to worry about witch hunts.

I wonder who he really is? Who has been trying to lower the price of the stakes. Who?? Because that's what he is trying to do. I have been incorrect before, and I may be now. But he is not on the stakeholder list. He can only buy them. A self proclaimed high roller.

Read the last ten pages and tell me what you get out of them.

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Quote from: cryptomite on July 09, 2014, 05:30:48 AM

We have a FINAL stakeholder list.

IT is called FINAL for a reason. The puppets have already received their stake via the asset exchange!!!

We did this auditing for months on end

I myself was accused of being a sockpuppet in NODE. I posted like a manic until they took me seriously. Then they took me out of the puppet list. It made me and many others very angry. Want to know what caused me to be flagged? I used TOR, like I always do. That's the large majority of their puppets. TOR!! Do you guys want to be lumped into that mess. This is what it's gonna play out like: "NEM and NODE are having a really hard time with sockpuppets, probably as bad as Nxt, they just made more accounts this time" I can hear it now!!!

It is time we market NEM. Not cause yet another controversy!!!

But hey, I'm in the market to buy more stakes, and this will do nothing but cause the price to go down. I'm pretty sure you guys know this and should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!

BTW I'm no puppet and I got my stake already, but I didn't sell it. Stop %%$&*ing around guys. PLEASE!! Can we do something regarding promotion?

Tell me what is on the agenda for promotion??

+1

few peoples are trying to dump the price of nem stake

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Quote from: XbladeX on July 09, 2014, 04:02:56 AM

Quote from: cupper5 on July 09, 2014, 03:04:30 AM

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Some guys are struggling to understand that everyone who is INTERESTED in NEM is HERE after 6 months .If they wanted to get a quick buck then they would have sold on NXT asset exchange.

Agree with that because asset exchange created pure hype at some point and thoe who had puppet acc went for quic buck they sol aready on top of hype to not risk later fail.
I belive in POS curencies i dint get any NXT becouse i just wanted support better distrybiuted coin like NEM,NODE,NFD2 and see what will happend.
If NXT were distributed like the coins i would buy NXT for sure.We will see in near future in volume if i am was right.

Same time i am long them BC supporter because of good distribution reasons.I am not for quik buck in all good development POS coins.
They need time to rise. Nem will be better alternative to NXT i believe with different POS structure POI.

I agree. Anyone who is a stakeholder and who is still here actively participating is obviously in this for at least the medium term. Near-term speculators are already out of the game via the asset exchange. I really don't think there is any need to start going on a sockpuppet account witch hunt again. The amount of effort required just to try and get a slightly better distribution of coins is most likely not worth it in my opinion. But, of course I want this whole thing to be as fair as possible. I just don't think it's as bad as some of you think it is when it comes to the sockpuppets.

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We have a FINAL stakeholder list.

IT is called FINAL for a reason. The puppets have already received their stake via the asset exchange!!!

We did this auditing for months on end

I myself was accused of being a sockpuppet in NODE. I posted like a manic until they took me seriously. Then they took me out of the puppet list. It made me and many others very angry. Want to know what caused me to be flagged? I used TOR, like I always do. That's the large majority of their puppets. TOR!! Do you guys want to be lumped into that mess. This is what it's gonna play out like: "NEM and NODE are having a really hard time with sockpuppets, probably as bad as Nxt, they just made more accounts this time" I can hear it now!!!

It is time we market NEM. Not cause yet another controversy!!!

But hey, I'm in the market to buy more stakes, and this will do nothing but cause the price to go down. I'm pretty sure you guys know this and should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!

BTW I'm no puppet and I got my stake already, but I didn't sell it. Stop %%$&*ing around guys. PLEASE!! Can we do something regarding promotion?

Tell me what is on the agenda for promotion??

cupper5

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Quote from: Thingamajig on July 09, 2014, 05:19:08 AM

Ok woke up to way too much controversy over the audit, I thought it would put most minds at ease and reduce fund over nodes list, but I was severely mistaken so I think it's best we don't go ahead with it. Just guna cause too many issues over an already great final stake owner list. It's not even started and look at the trouble it's started. It is actually a bit offencive/rude to those who already did a great job.

Finally, someone talking sense

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Quote from: rockethead on July 09, 2014, 03:41:53 AM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:55:49 PM

Quote from: ARGpentem on July 08, 2014, 07:25:01 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:11:33 PM

Quote from: Magic8Ball on July 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM

I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.

another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.

I propose:

1. A full validation of the stakeholder list. All account stakeholder should have a link to the original registration post next to their account.

2. A full redo of population statistics. All account stakeholder should have a post count next to their account.

3. All low post stakeholder need to be rechecked for sock puppets. ---> if there is no explanation then remove them from stakeholder list.

I totally agree with these proposals. Can someone/a group of people come forward and try to start working on this? If it is too hard to coordinate things here, please feel free to create a thread on http://forum.nemcoin.com/

Yup, let's put words to actions. Argpentem?

Collaborate with NODE, since node has a mandatory account creation they may have all the details regarding useragents/ip/browsers(version)/screensize and etc per registered user. I hope you'll catch heaps of puppets. Wink

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

I don't quite understand your stance against this.

Considering it's already come to light that some accounts may be sockpuppets, it's important for it to be investigated further just out of principle - provided it's not something thats taking up Dev time.

Frankly, if this goes by ignored, i'd wager it would come back to haunt NEM later down the road and would make perfect troll bait.

I've read a lot of your posts and respect your points of view but your wrong this time. The trolls will be unleashed the moment the new ' witch hunt ' begins.....and another audit WILL be a witch hunt. It will damage NEM.

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It seems to cause problems only to those who used sock puppets.

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Quote from: rockethead on July 09, 2014, 03:41:53 AM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:55:49 PM

Quote from: ARGpentem on July 08, 2014, 07:25:01 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:11:33 PM

Quote from: Magic8Ball on July 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM

I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.

another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.

I propose:

1. A full validation of the stakeholder list. All account stakeholder should have a link to the original registration post next to their account.

2. A full redo of population statistics. All account stakeholder should have a post count next to their account.

3. All low post stakeholder need to be rechecked for sock puppets. ---> if there is no explanation then remove them from stakeholder list.

I totally agree with these proposals. Can someone/a group of people come forward and try to start working on this? If it is too hard to coordinate things here, please feel free to create a thread on http://forum.nemcoin.com/

Yup, let's put words to actions. Argpentem?

Collaborate with NODE, since node has a mandatory account creation they may have all the details regarding useragents/ip/browsers(version)/screensize and etc per registered user. I hope you'll catch heaps of puppets. Wink

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

+ 4 BILLION NEM

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Quote from: rockethead on July 09, 2014, 03:41:53 AM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:55:49 PM

Quote from: ARGpentem on July 08, 2014, 07:25:01 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:11:33 PM

Quote from: Magic8Ball on July 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM

Quote from: Parana on July 09, 2014, 04:50:44 AM

I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.

another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.

I propose:

1. A full validation of the stakeholder list. All account stakeholder should have a link to the original registration post next to their account.

2. A full redo of population statistics. All account stakeholder should have a post count next to their account.

3. All low post stakeholder need to be rechecked for sock puppets. ---> if there is no explanation then remove them from stakeholder list.

I totally agree with these proposals. Can someone/a group of people come forward and try to start working on this? If it is too hard to coordinate things here, please feel free to create a thread on http://forum.nemcoin.com/

Yup, let's put words to actions. Argpentem?

Collaborate with NODE, since node has a mandatory account creation they may have all the details regarding useragents/ip/browsers(version)/screensize and etc per registered user. I hope you'll catch heaps of puppets. Wink

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

I don't quite understand your stance against this.

Considering it's already come to light that some accounts may be sockpuppets, it's important for it to be investigated further just out of principle - provided it's not something thats taking up Dev time.

Frankly, if this goes by ignored, i'd wager it would come back to haunt NEM later down the road and would make perfect troll bait.

cupper5

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....

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

The audit will not be done by DEVs. Will be done by community.

If you dont have anything to hide, dont fear it!

Wink

Done by the community who post a lot. Not everyone posts. This should not be a reason to throw someone out.
Maybe it's certain people who post a lot under different names who are trying to redistribute stakes for their own benefit.

Parana

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Step into a world!! A P2P world!

....

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

The audit will not be done by DEVs. Will be done by community.

If you dont have anything to hide, dont fear it!

Wink

cupper5

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Quote from: rockethead on July 09, 2014, 03:41:53 AM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:55:49 PM

Quote from: ARGpentem on July 08, 2014, 07:25:01 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:11:33 PM

Quote from: Magic8Ball on July 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM

Quote from: rockethead on July 09, 2014, 03:41:53 AM

I found more. P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT. Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive. It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list. Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold). The others can still be refunded.

another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers.

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.

I propose:

1. A full validation of the stakeholder list. All account stakeholder should have a link to the original registration post next to their account.

2. A full redo of population statistics. All account stakeholder should have a post count next to their account.

3. All low post stakeholder need to be rechecked for sock puppets. ---> if there is no explanation then remove them from stakeholder list.

I totally agree with these proposals. Can someone/a group of people come forward and try to start working on this? If it is too hard to coordinate things here, please feel free to create a thread on http://forum.nemcoin.com/

Yup, let's put words to actions. Argpentem?

Collaborate with NODE, since node has a mandatory account creation they may have all the details regarding useragents/ip/browsers(version)/screensize and etc per registered user. I hope you'll catch heaps of puppets. Wink

What the fuck are you guys doing? It has been established that the NEM distribution is the best of all altcoins. You are fucking everything up and opening all sorts of problems.you find it easier to catch a so called sock than develop and market NEM properly.

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Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:55:49 PM

Quote from: ARGpentem on July 08, 2014, 07:25:01 PM

Quote from: makoto1337 on July 08, 2014, 07:11:33 PM

Quote from: Magic8Ball on July 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM