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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1891. (Read 2984910 times)

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I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.

I propose:

1. A full validation of the stakeholder list. All account stakeholder should have a link to the original registration post next to their account.

2. A full redo of population statistics. All account stakeholder should have a post count next to their account.

3. All low post stakeholder need to be rechecked for sock puppets. ---> if there is no explanation then remove them from stakeholder list.
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.

I think the community should organize another audit of the stakeholder list. The dev team is too busy coding to do that and I think it would be really great if someone would take the initiative and get this done. Post-V1, the community needs to run NEM, so people should start taking some steps in that direction.
legendary
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sell order book is thinning fast. only 8 stakes between current lowest sell order and 30k.

Good news, there was just a small scare for the sockpuppet business. The alpha working well has generated confidence, and now we wait for the real thing. Once more features get implemented it will just break all price records.
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can we add features such as sending nemcoin via txt sms function like VERICOIN is doing? also FIAT exchange via Wallet with dollar.
anon funcion like what DARKCOIN is doing ? i wanna see this coin shoot up the roof  Cool Grin Cheesy Wink Smiley
legendary
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I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Is the audit being done? I propose stopping issuing of the asset tokens, remove any sockpuppet possible and then restart again. Sockpuppets will get through but if they are known then its criminal to let them be.
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Quite funny that you rather choose cube over a 666 symbol. Well guess what conspiracy lovers  Grin Cube (the honeycomb or hegaxon) is apparently just as much "satanic" (so they say) as the 666. But don't ask me why, numerous videos on youtube will tell you.

Interpretation of symbols is fairly individual Smiley
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Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.

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Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
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Appreciate the effort you've put into this.
legendary
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no, had some euro left on my skrill card ^^
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My Head is a Ritz
https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy

What made the sudden jump ?
did a small promo campaign at fb, but i didnt expect that ^^

Where?

bought some adspace on facebook perhaps?
Do they accept crypto yet?
hero member
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https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy

What made the sudden jump ?
did a small promo campaign at fb, but i didnt expect that ^^

Where?
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Merit: 100
https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy

What made the sudden jump ?
did a small promo campaign at fb, but i didnt expect that ^^

Well done.  Smiley
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Sorry guys I'm still a bit confused as to how fake tokens were floating on the exchange, can someone clarify? Do we need to be concerned about stakes we bought (do I need to validate the account I bought from?), or is this just going to get eaten by the dev war chest fund?

You can't do anything about fake tokens on a decentralized exchange, all orders are matched automatically. Decentralized exchange is not controlled by anyone, that's how it's designed to be. They are not even fake tokens, they are same good tokens, just given to someone a few times.

Ah I see, gotcha. Thanks.

On anonymity, consider this:

1) Drug dealers, pedophiles, _and_ Libertarians. Not everyone wants their financial transactions to be an open book for the government or the private industry (or the public either) regardless of their nature. The unfortunate side effect is the folks who do unsavory things. The question becomes do you sacrifice the individual liberties of the majority to hold the wrong doers accountable? The founding fathers of America would certainly say no (think Patriot Act and the like).  
2) Related to point #1, I think the point with more gravity is what governments will do. Currently they treat cryptos (specifically bitcoin) as an asset right? Buying and selling cryptos is like buying and selling expensive collectibles or something. When you buy them or sell them the same rules apply (I wonder are there luxury taxes on Bitcoin purchases?) The key thing here is if this movement gets enough gravity, how will governments approach it then? Threatening the tax base is the largest threat.

One could argue the most successful crypto will be one that allows government controls to function with ease. Consider income tax as an example. Most entities you interact with will supply some form of reporting to the IRS to validate the claims you make on your tax return. If a lot of this hidden from auditing they won't like that. So you can consider two reactions to that. "The finger" to "the man". Hey government eat it... but if we take that to the extreme, kind of hard to keep a standing army that protects the infrastructure that supports the currency without tax revenue. On the other hand, allowing controls that give the government the ability to easily do analysis  means they are more likely to work with it which could lead to broader adoption. It is pretty obvious from the news they understand this is something they can't directly squash.

Personally I'm not over the moon about the idea that my transactions with others is easily open to public curiosity, and data mining by corporate and government entities. I support the idea that to some very limited extent the government needs a way to tax an economic system as it becomes independent of fiat for the functions of fire, police, military, infrastructure, etc is reasonable. But I also like the idea that we can insulate ourselves from what I consider to be corrupt and awful policy practices by using a currency that isn't subject to total control by a corrupt entity whose actions are in the interest of self preservation.

I think my point here is we want to do _just enough_ to allow for integration in to the current government controls in so far as taxation, otherwise none of these bits are worth anything if the currency of the land is bullets and water and food. I'm not sure how you enforce something like a "sales tax" with everything at the discretion of each transacting party, as that would be the simplest mechanism (yay abolishment of stupid tax code). But I also think we want to do things to protect our privacy and hold government officials accountable to their actions with transparency in the currency and insight in to spending. Some of these things are diametrically opposed.

In the end anonymity is a different animal than privacy.

There are two realities if we succeed in a NEM. Anarchy when the governments fall while the rich factions of crypto form militias to protect data centers and electrical plants, spend a few hundred years living with feudal realms, and eventually consolidate in to hopefully a new democratic government or despotism. The alternative is streamlining and altering the existing government which surely would be the less costly in terms of lives and harmony. Those bits won't be worth much without the infrastructure (I'm picturing a bunch of Mad Max style citizens with laptops and solar panels and inverters taped to their vehicles).
legendary
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https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy

What made the sudden jump ?
did a small promo campaign at fb, but i didnt expect that ^^
sr. member
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electroneum.com
This is from the NODE thread, can we put him is the scammer category?



You will now lose your NEM puppets too.

Good luck with controlling my Nem stakes as they are already on AE exchange Wink

I actually wish Nem had done better job in controlling sock puppets. It would have better for Nem


Would it make a difference? Are we going to be able to do anything about the scammer, or him?
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https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy

What made the sudden jump ?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM

+350 likes in almost 24 hours  Shocked

thats what i call movement Cheesy
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hi all, can anybody help me? just istalled NEM client and lauch'ed, but in /ncc folder i can not found .wlt file for my wallet. i use OS X

Hi xadidos, your .wlt file(s) reside in ~/ncc on Mac OS X & Linux

tian:ncc c25519$ cd ~/ncc
tian:ncc c25519$ ls
instacash.wlt   test.wlt   test2.wlt
ncc.cfg
         

On Windows the path is c:\users\\ncc

thanks bro
sr. member
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Sorry guys I'm still a bit confused as to how fake tokens were floating on the exchange, can someone clarify? Do we need to be concerned about stakes we bought (do I need to validate the account I bought from?), or is this just going to get eaten by the dev war chest fund?

You can't do anything about fake tokens on a decentralized exchange, all orders are matched automatically. Decentralized exchange is not controlled by anyone, that's how it's designed to be. They are not even fake tokens, they are same good tokens, just given to someone a few times.
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Can people still buy NEM at the AE of NXT or not?

I'm confused after the scam.

Sorry guys I'm still a bit confused as to how fake tokens were floating on the exchange, can someone clarify? Do we need to be concerned about stakes we bought (do I need to validate the account I bought from?), or is this just going to get eaten by the dev war chest fund?
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PoW  fanboys will be coming running to the safe haven that is PoS soon.

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2a2on3/soooooo_what_the_hell_is_happening_with_this/

by the way, does the "trust-less exchange, and client that can hold multiple currencies" sound just like nxt's multigateway and AE or is that just me? Smiley

edit: nem is getting bought up like mad.. Shocked

I think he is talking more about how altcoins are losing momentum.

i know, but its the consensus algorithm thats the issue underneath it all, and thats PoW. so the issue is with PoW in general which makes me think that this issue may start with alts, and slow feed its way up to bitcoin, eventually. probably a long time before that happens though, if ever.

Depends of price of bitcoin so basically of investors or users, or in generally of mass adoption which has slowed significantly.
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