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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 30. (Read 2984910 times)

legendary
Activity: 1279
Merit: 1018
I had planned to sell half of my remaining NEM pre-snapshot and catch a possible pump, but the insider dump has changed my mind and I dumped the lot (not a lot).
Nem will be ~$0 after the snapshot and there is no reason to expect symbol wont go to the Nem price before the airdrop was announced which is around $0.04.
I might buy back some symbol after launch but we will see. It was a great ride on the Nem train from the beginning and I am somewhat sad its over (for me at least). I could have made serious money if I had played it differently with my Nem holdings over the years but I cant complain as everyone has a story like that.
tbc

That is a strong assumption that XYM = XEM.

Is there any other coin-pairs which have been equal in that way or could it be so that XYM is eg. 5 times the price of XEM_before_snapshot.

Is that assumption that XEM will be ~0, based to the alt coin history ?       XEM would disappear from the crypto exchanges, if that 0-price is happening.



Year ago the richest Top50 owned 59,9 % of all XEMs.
Month ago 64,1 %.
Now 65,1 %.

That indicates that the "big boys" trust to XEM or at least trust to that the receiving of XYM will be beneficial.


Xem will go to zero as the Xem devs are moving to the new coin and XYM is NEM 2. There is no reason to hold Nem after the snapshot.  I suppose its possible someone will take over the the development of the old chain but why ?. The price that XYM will be at launch is anyone's guess but my guess was 0.04 which was the last price Nem was before the split was announced. The ongoing price of XYM assuming it launches at all will be based on its merits, marketing etc like any other coin.
PS: It seems though (could be wrong) that the XYM devs/core are scooping up all the old Nem funds for XYM "development" and who knows what they will do with the unclaimed XYM after 6 years.
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
I had planned to sell half of my remaining NEM pre-snapshot and catch a possible pump, but the insider dump has changed my mind and I dumped the lot (not a lot).
Nem will be ~$0 after the snapshot and there is no reason to expect symbol wont go to the Nem price before the airdrop was announced which is around $0.04.
I might buy back some symbol after launch but we will see. It was a great ride on the Nem train from the beginning and I am somewhat sad its over (for me at least). I could have made serious money if I had played it differently with my Nem holdings over the years but I cant complain as everyone has a story like that.
tbc

That is a strong assumption that XYM = XEM.

Is there any other coin-pairs which have been equal in that way or could it be so that XYM is eg. 5 times the price of XEM_before_snapshot.

Is that assumption that XEM will be ~0, based to the alt coin history ?       XEM would disappear from the crypto exchanges, if that 0-price is happening.



Year ago the richest Top50 owned 59,9 % of all XEMs.
Month ago 64,1 %.
Now 65,1 %.

That indicates that the "big boys" trust to XEM or at least trust to that the receiving of XYM will be beneficial.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
How is information that is accessible to the public insider information? You have to realize this ANN thread is not the main source of information anymore.

Personally, I couldn't care less about moving the snapshot date. I have been patient long enough. Sounds like you are just looking to dump your XEM ASAP after the snapshot and you can't wait to reallocate it into other coins.
legendary
Activity: 1279
Merit: 1018
I had planned to sell half of my remaining NEM pre-snapshot and catch a possible pump, but the insider dump has changed my mind and I dumped the lot (not a lot).
Nem will be ~$0 after the snapshot and there is no reason to expect symbol wont go to the Nem price before the airdrop was announced which is around $0.04.
I might buy back some symbol after launch but we will see. It was a great ride on the Nem train from the beginning and I am somewhat sad its over (for me at least). I could have made serious money if I had played it differently with my Nem holdings over the years but I cant complain as everyone has a story like that.
tbc
member
Activity: 152
Merit: 11
It's not weird it's insider knowledge, they knew first what will be announced, so they have more time to cut position, and the same will be with rebuy from lower levels, we will see sudden pump and few days/week after that we will see announcement.

from forum.nem.io

"Opt In and Snapshot

There is a further subject that needs to be addressed - whether Opt In closing and Snapshot should stay where they are, or move with the launch. This is a subject that we think only the community and token holders should decide and will therefore be put to a PoI vote 44 with further details shared shortly on the forum.

In order to allow as much time as possible for the vote to run, we will change the Opt In close date to the 14th of January as well, giving approx 2 weeks for voting to be completed. A post will be made in the next few days to start this vote, with full details."

I vote for option that snapshot should stay @14January, other than that is bullying on holders, that should stop immediately.


legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017

Don't you find it weird that the sell was triggered a week ago while the announcement was only today ? Was the snapshot delayed ?

member
Activity: 152
Merit: 11
@ormin79
, have few questions for you as you seem to know much about this prices action!

1) why you always look "compare" price to USD?
Shouldn't  we look prices against BTC? Isn't the BTC the base (main) currency in crpyto?

2) I have noticed when btc rises "normaly" i mean without sudden spikes the
prices of almost all other crypto fall against BTC but falls just as much to be more or less stable against FIAT currency!
why is that?



1) technicals shoould work in both cases, but yes BTC is main currency and that is the reason why i've looked into chart and described two levels of support for XEMBTC (600sat and 400 sat)

2) This is very complicated. Now all it looks like only BTC is chosen by market, rest of alts wait for occasionally pumps, few tries to bite, other wait for own trend change (in case of XEM we have bad infos, postponing of snapshot, so downtrend looks to be propelled by that). Other thing is liquidity. In case of XEM buywalls are not so big, so dumps are very painful and faster.

The NEM team one more time shows (with snapshot postponing) that they works only for big players/whales, if whale want have cheaper XEMs, they will deliver.

Funny thing is that 9 of swords showed me the truth, but i want not to believe. It's not the end however. If they will do this snapshot finally and whole crypto will be in strong uptrend the chances for high start of XYM are still good. Who is impatient or buyed for around 30cents, can now be more angry i understand that. Other situation is when someone have not invested all or much money in that case, only few percent of capital, so can sleep easy and wait for changes.



12cents level is logaritmic and 6cents is normal mode, one more time formation in USD, in XEMBTC i dont see for now so clear formation. There is one more, old support @ 285sat so we have three supports around 600sat, 400sat, and 300sat...

Ive cutted my portfolio exposition in XEM by a half and wait for lower levels for rebuy, half for Bitcoins, half for JPY (Zaif).

Happy new year holders of XEM, maybe it will be not bad as it looks now from charts;)
legendary
Activity: 1279
Merit: 1018
Anyone got a final breakdown of where all the XYM funds go?  will all all the dev funds, silvercoin etc wallets be converted to XYM too ? Also after the 6 years is up, what will happen to unclaimed XYM


Wallets were discussed here. https://forum.nem.io/t/core-team-wallet-transfers/26584?

As for the unclaimed funds after 6 years. I don't expect there to be a lot, but it was discussed to burn it.



So the silver coin fund has been taken ( amalgamated) and put into the Core fund ??
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Everything postponed to february, not even a date.
Fasten your belts gentlemen
We re going down
hero member
Activity: 1110
Merit: 534
@ormin79
, have few questions for you as you seem to know much about this prices action!

1) why you always look "compare" price to USD?
Shouldn't  we look prices against BTC? Isn't the BTC the base (main) currency in crpyto?

2) I have noticed when btc rises "normaly" i mean without sudden spikes the
prices of almost all other crypto fall against BTC but falls just as much to be more or less stable against FIAT currency!
why is that?

member
Activity: 152
Merit: 11


two levels where XEMBTC should stop this downward move: around 600sat and 400sat. 600sat x 30000 = 18cents,
400sat x 30000 = 12cents, all depends on where this Bitcoina mania will stop, and finally gives fuel for alts and XEM, near snapshot it should be some day or two with spectacular price action in case of XEM.

All this snapshot drama is to collect cheap XEMs from impatient, as always.

News is for sell, not for buy. You must buy not the news, only rumors and in technical places on charts, not in FOMO.

Other alts also have snapshot uncertainty? I dont think so Cheesy so not only the snapshot date manipulation (how many more time) is the fuel for this behaviour of market forces.

I wrote, better is wait for XYMs, than sell XEMs now, even if they will be temporary lower in case of USD nad BTC.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
Guess he means that System launch might be postponed due to some emerged technical things (link bellow) which need to solve before launch, and this brings in a question if snapshot itself will be postponed as well:

https://forum.nem.io/t/500-nodes-performance-test/26565/41

The new kids of the block know always the most of everything Wink

Well, why price is going as it is going I have no clue, just hope that this snapshot date will hold as good as I will hold my XEMs:) And with my money in the game, of course I am interested if it is going to be postponed.


Look eg. Poloniex's coin courses. Sort them by the Volume.
Almost all the coins have a negative course change.

When Bitcoin goes up strongly, then almost always the alt coins go downwards.

Thanks:) Yes, seems like not good for alts if it goes too good or too bad for BTC. Hope my XEMs will not lose too much in BTC value during this period...
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
Guess he means that System launch might be postponed due to some emerged technical things (link bellow) which need to solve before launch, and this brings in a question if snapshot itself will be postponed as well:

https://forum.nem.io/t/500-nodes-performance-test/26565/41

The new kids of the block know always the most of everything Wink

Well, why price is going as it is going I have no clue, just hope that this snapshot date will hold as good as I will hold my XEMs:) And with my money in the game, of course I am interested if it is going to be postponed.


Look eg. Poloniex's coin courses. Sort them by the Volume.
Almost all the coins have a negative course change.

When Bitcoin goes up strongly, then almost always the alt coins go downwards.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
Guess he means that System launch might be postponed due to some emerged technical things (link bellow) which need to solve before launch, and this brings in a question if snapshot itself will be postponed as well:

https://forum.nem.io/t/500-nodes-performance-test/26565/41

The new kids of the block know always the most of everything Wink

Well, why price is going as it is going I have no clue, just hope that this snapshot date will hold as good as I will hold my XEMs:) And with my money in the game, of course I am interested if it is going to be postponed.
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
Guess he means that System launch might be postponed due to some emerged technical things (link bellow) which need to solve before launch, and this brings in a question if snapshot itself will be postponed as well:

https://forum.nem.io/t/500-nodes-performance-test/26565/41

The new kids of the block know always the most of everything Wink
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
Guess he means that System launch might be postponed due to some emerged technical things (link bellow) which need to solve before launch, and this brings in a question if snapshot itself will be postponed as well:

https://forum.nem.io/t/500-nodes-performance-test/26565/41
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.

What risk are we talking about?
hero member
Activity: 1568
Merit: 507
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
because there is a risk of transferring the snapshot, so people began to sell coins.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Where is the pump?  Why did I buy this stuff? Cry
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Stupid coin, the events did not play out much, there is little time, there will be no growth, the current is drained every day -5%
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