Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 440. (Read 2985369 times)

Everyone can create a new account and claim to be the real nembit86.
Will the real nembit86 please stand up?
We actually don't have to do anything. We don't have the time and patience to read through lots of reading material. Just give us a good summary of how it will benefit us. This shouldn't be hard for you if you know the ins and outs of your own project.

Well why would they suddenly come out of the shadow and ALL support this funding instead of being against it. It also looks like they know many benefits of this projects while we have a ton of questions.
Even if they happen to have a low importance, only their presence here is disturbing. It looks like a psychological operation to try to convince the ones with a higher importance to vote Yes.

Valuable information that you gave us.

Thumbs up!

You seem to be shooting off your head. As a "day 1" nember, it reflects poorly upon you that you have no inkling of Nem compared to the newbies. I would be embarassed if i were you.

For the benefit of all oldies and newbies, the atraura project is being proposed by an established nember. It is not some new company. They developed landstead.

The project is aimed at making onboarding easier as we work on our blue ocean approach with mainstreamers. It is an abstraction of the nem core solution. The current core developers will not have time or resources to do it.

It is basically a framework for easy development of applications. The framework will be open source and parked under the nem banner for anyone to use. There is no commercial interest in the project other than the cost to hire heads to do it.

Now, instead of ico, they are requesting aid from the community fund. It is not part of the foundation fund, which belongs to the original  core fund that will be donated to the foundation.

I would urge you to think properly rather than shooting into space with your comments without actually knowing the intents of the project. Whether it is worth 3m or 300k, it needs to be justified of course. But there is obvious need to make things easier for application programming and onboarding developers to write apps easily.

Currently it takes a mainstream guy about 1 month to know NEM application programming. We want to cut that down substantially. The framework is meant for that.

Unless you have worked on nem and know blockchain, as a mainstream programmer, it is hard to understand multisig, let alone programming it.

Framework is supposed to make it easier.

I believe they will have an AMA. Please avail yourselves with questions.

"The voting system is bullshit anyway"

Is the system already selected; some net-poll or completed NEM-based-voting-system ?

These issues were discussed a long time ago
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4787699

the process can be found and read by going to the first link I posted. You just need to be less lazy and go there and read up on it rather than bad mouthing long term nembers.....

rather than talking nonsense here in a troll like manner maybe you should start participating in the discussion provided by the links a little back on this thread.....on the Forum...

Let's not forget there are hundreds of stakeholders not contributing to the forum. No wonder they step in when wild 15M funding proposal appears. If these accounts are fake they will not be able to vote anyway so why worry.
I am also for the proposal. I don't care if the right way of giving bounty is that community asks for it first or if dev comes with the proposal.
I only care if
 - we can afford it (ofc we can our community fund is YUGE and was created exactly for devs like these). As it was said before, the sooner we deliver good stuff, the better chance we have against other cryptos. So spending 15M now might benefit us more than spending 50M in a year.
 - it helps NEM - it looks like it will. It might bring popularity and attract new developers.
 - NEM devs and other staff are for it or not  - this I don't know

So there is no reason to be against this proposal. What we should do now is to bargain the price and make sure we get minimal loss if Atraura is not able to deliver in time - set correct milestones and pay for the next one only if the previous one is finished.

This is something that also needs to be taken into account, the amount of newbies accounts with less than 5 posts being so biased towards approving it.

State your sources and the records where this voting process happened.

I am not aware of this process and others as well have not heard of this vote. Take into account that many of us have been keeping up with NEM since day 1.

I could care less of an Atraura Proposal thread, I want to see a blockchain system style of voting. So far most initial supporters have been told about these projects, yet we are being left out of voting then all of a sudden boom "new money approved for X project". Who approved this? Where are the public records of such votes? It'd be nice if our opinions get taken more into account if we are truly "a community coin".

If anyone from the main NEM team would like to step in and explain this/correct us to clear things.

It is quite remarkable that a newbie made his first post and it appears that he has got already knowledge about NEM foundation, isn't' it? ;-)

I changed my mind a bit as it seems suspicious that there are more and more coming to this thread to promote that huge funding!

The community should take care if this project is worth to fund or not!!!

I don't get all the negativety towards an innitiative as this..

Sure 15M NEM is a lot of money, but if it helps the NEM network and speeds up new releases on the platform, it may very well be worth it.

The Dash example got me thinking though. Wouldn't it be better to put a USD value on each milestone and pay the NEM equivalent upon reaching it? That would prevent a massive overpay or underpay in case the price moves a lot during the development between milestones.

you must be as stupid as fragout.... you think i can oversee the proposal process by being a fake NEM supporter ? I lost my password and they sent me the recovery to an old email address i couldnt remember. I am nembit86,been here from the start....look back if you want....its with folks like you that I never missed being back here on btt. Oh....and Im not supporting this project..I am impartial, show me where I am supporting the project ..(silly boy)

++1
hate these fake NEM-supporters!

Then why did you feel the need to set up a new btt account to support this project.?

Having studied the information about the NEM Framework. I decided to vote for the allocation of money. If this is implemented quickly. Then it's worth it.
After the renovation of the catapult and the implementation of these projects, the capitalization will be very high.

having a higher importance means you have earned more of a say...... its up to everyone in the community to vote to get a good idea of what the community want. Theres not so many whales in this project compared to others and who knows which way each of them would vote anyway? One so called whale could cancel out another one.........

`If a quorum of at least 3% of the importance of the NEM blockchain is met and the vote passes with a 65% majority, then the vote is considered accepted by the community. Otherwise it fails.`

Voting will take place in 4 days now. There will be a YES account to approve the proposal and a NO account to not approve it. A small message to one of them by each Nember will record their importance. These accounts will be found on the Atraura Proposal thread on the Forum.

what are you talking about ? I oversaw the first voting with CryptoApex and also Apostille...... a lot of the community voted on both occasions and it was completely fair.The voting figures were published on both occasions. Of course you will be able to physically vote. You will have 5 days to physically vote on the Atraura Proposal thread.

So discussion is actually 10 days if you wish to vote on the last day available......more than enough time to get to know more about the Atraura Organisation.

The Community Fund was specifically set up to help third party projects expand the NEM project......  please read all about Atraura and the proposal process before commiting yourselves

Why are you people worried about dev funds?
We have way more than enough.

Does Nem Foundation get a share of the company? If so, even if Nem price goes up we'd still be okay and if they are profitable there would be constant inflow of funds for the dev team.