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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 534. (Read 2985369 times)

legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
Hi guys

I have a legal question.
Suppose a standard hypothetical scenario where NEM rises to 1USD in 1-2 years. I will want to withdraw some of my funds lets say 1 mil USD.
Now 1 mil USD will just arrive to my bank account - I would expect the financial police will be suspicious of how I could gain so much money.

Is someone here able to explain how this works in European legislation? Can I just withdraw money and say that I was a lucky NEM holder and everything will be fine?
Will I need to declare this as an asset gain and pay taxes? Or is this tax-free?

Thanks for your input!

You are liable for capital gains tax afaik

You will have to declare the value of your holdings every year in your tax forms.

If you do this every year, you will have a paper trail where you paid taxes if they were due and you can back this up with the historical data if questions are asked.

Most important thing to do is to call your bank before you request the transfer as the bank will immediately suspend your account for investigations. It may also be wise to call your tax agency to let them know you are cashing out on your assets so they know where it came from.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250

i heard europe will soon ban anonymous coins like dash monero zcash, xem is ok


where did you hear that? Could you give the source?

Is the proposed Europe ban similar to this in the UK?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/uk-bans-end-to-end-encryption-mandates-government-authority-over-encrypted-technologies

Seems to me that it would be difficult if not impossible to enforce this legislation iro decentralised cryptocurrencies, there being no 'telecommunications operator'  (or at least, no identifiable telecomm operator) on whom the government can serve a 'technical capability notice'.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/03/ec_virtual_currency_regulation_suggestion/
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/10/28/italian-mps-aim-ban-zcash-anonymous-cryptocurrencies/
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/eu-parliament-states-virtual-currencies-cannot-be-anonymous/
ofcourse this wont kill dash/monero/zcash completely but will send them straight to the  dark underground
bad investment if you want to make profit
i have zero position on so called privacy coin  too much Risky
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so


so ? what is your concern?

Why so defensive?  I have no concern, only investigating reasons why NEM is x10 ARDOR,  when both are quite similar. If you go to market and see apples selling x10 price of oranges, then you look for reason. DASH masternodes locking coins off market is often given as explanation for dash price rise, I'm investigating if something similar is happening with NEM. It's not a criticism, so you can holster that attitude.
ask yourself why did you use the word  "awful " you were trying to fud my friend Roll Eyes
if you want really to investigate go to the official nem forum.
i am sure you will get all the docs and  references to satisfy you curiosity.
https://forum.nem.io/

Haha, you must be a young esl kiddy ... you're very sensitive

Richlist shows roughly what's going on, large amount of coins in accounts unlikely to be trading.
https://i.imgur.com/pbXVD2y.jpg
hero member
Activity: 577
Merit: 500

i heard europe will soon ban anonymous coins like dash monero zcash, xem is ok


where did you hear that? Could you give the source?

Is the proposed Europe ban similar to this in the UK?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/uk-bans-end-to-end-encryption-mandates-government-authority-over-encrypted-technologies

Seems to me that it would be difficult if not impossible to enforce this legislation iro decentralised cryptocurrencies, there being no 'telecommunications operator'  (or at least, no identifiable telecomm operator) on whom the government can serve a 'technical capability notice'.
legendary
Activity: 1279
Merit: 1018
Hi guys

I have a legal question.
Suppose a standard hypothetical scenario where NEM rises to 1USD in 1-2 years. I will want to withdraw some of my funds lets say 1 mil USD.
Now 1 mil USD will just arrive to my bank account - I would expect the financial police will be suspicious of how I could gain so much money.

Is someone here able to explain how this works in European legislation? Can I just withdraw money and say that I was a lucky NEM holder and everything will be fine?
Will I need to declare this as an asset gain and pay taxes? Or is this tax-free?

Thanks for your input!

You are liable for capital gains tax afaik
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
LOL We didn't finish talking, a new company joined Mijin/Nem Shocked
Unbelievable Cheesy



http://mijin.io/en/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18749324
hero member
Activity: 834
Merit: 524
Nxt NEM
keep your job

keep a low profile and be humble

look around, research ways to cash out slowly.

we are given this blessings, so do not mess it up, think long term.

my target is do above and I will be donating some to an orphanage, helping the needy people, I will do this anonymously of course.  :-)

goodluck to everyone.



Who has given the right to read my diary?!

Wink


But... yes, that's the way you do and should do it.
I have now moved also to that trade position.
Some sellings must be done by us ("original stakeholders"). Otherwise the XEMs will not spread and there would be only WAIIIITIIING for ...


sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
Hi guys

I have a legal question.
Suppose a standard hypothetical scenario where NEM rises to 1USD in 1-2 years. I will want to withdraw some of my funds lets say 1 mil USD.
Now 1 mil USD will just arrive to my bank account - I would expect the financial police will be suspicious of how I could gain so much money.

Is someone here able to explain how this works in European legislation? Can I just withdraw money and say that I was a lucky NEM holder and everything will be fine?
Will I need to declare this as an asset gain and pay taxes? Or is this tax-free?

Thanks for your input!
ask the  tax department of your country.
i heard europe will soon ban anonymous coins like dash monero zcash, xem is ok
so i do not advise you to use them within europe at least.
to avoid of being flagged try to not exceed 10K eur when you withdraw to your account.
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 10
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so


so ? what is your concern?

Why so defensive?  I have no concern, only investigating reasons why NEM is x10 ARDOR,  when both are quite similar. If you go to market and see apples selling x10 price of oranges, then you look for reason. DASH masternodes locking coins off market is often given as explanation for dash price rise, I'm investigating if something similar is happening with NEM. It's not a criticism, so you can holster that attitude.
ask yourself why did you use the word  "awful " you were trying to fud my friend Roll Eyes
if you want really to investigate go to the official nem forum.
i am sure you will get all the docs and  references to satisfy you curiosity.
https://forum.nem.io/

Haha, you must be a young esl kiddy ... you're very sensitive

Richlist shows roughly what's going on, large amount of coins in accounts unlikely to be trading.
hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
Hi guys

I have a legal question.
Suppose a standard hypothetical scenario where NEM rises to 1USD in 1-2 years. I will want to withdraw some of my funds lets say 1 mil USD.
Now 1 mil USD will just arrive to my bank account - I would expect the financial police will be suspicious of how I could gain so much money.

Is someone here able to explain how this works in European legislation? Can I just withdraw money and say that I was a lucky NEM holder and everything will be fine?
Will I need to declare this as an asset gain and pay taxes? Or is this tax-free?

Thanks for your input!

The conditions are various in the various European Countries. There's still no European Tax Office.

In Germany, all bargains after holding one Year are tax free.
hero member
Activity: 577
Merit: 500
LUXTAG.IO release a video Shocked
Do not miss it... i really love it Kiss



source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkgJMvTCDrs

Tweeted - thanks for posting  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so


so ? what is your concern?

Why so defensive?  I have no concern, only investigating reasons why NEM is x10 ARDOR,  when both are quite similar. If you go to market and see apples selling x10 price of oranges, then you look for reason. DASH masternodes locking coins off market is often given as explanation for dash price rise, I'm investigating if something similar is happening with NEM. It's not a criticism, so you can holster that attitude.
ask yourself why did you use the word  "awful " you were trying to fud my friend Roll Eyes
if you want really to investigate go to the official nem forum.
i am sure you will get all the docs and  references to satisfy you curiosity.
https://forum.nem.io/
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
Hi guys

I have a legal question.
Suppose a standard hypothetical scenario where NEM rises to 1USD in 1-2 years. I will want to withdraw some of my funds lets say 1 mil USD.
Now 1 mil USD will just arrive to my bank account - I would expect the financial police will be suspicious of how I could gain so much money.

Is someone here able to explain how this works in European legislation? Can I just withdraw money and say that I was a lucky NEM holder and everything will be fine?
Will I need to declare this as an asset gain and pay taxes? Or is this tax-free?

Thanks for your input!
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
316 CORP/GOV are playing with MIJIN/NEM tech Smiley
and it is growing really FAST!. Kiss Kiss Kiss





source:
http://mijin.io/en/
March reference:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18086587

WOW! thanks great friend!

Mijin will be great and everybody know that reason NEM not mentioned by Mijin because NEM super secret ninja weapon of Mijin

Mijin will take out secret weapon NEM when ready but for now better safe not mention NEM

To the moon!
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 10
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so


so ? what is your concern?

Why so defensive?  I have no concern, only investigating reasons why NEM is x10 ARDOR,  when both are quite similar. If you go to market and see apples selling x10 price of oranges, then you look for reason. DASH masternodes locking coins off market is often given as explanation for dash price rise, I'm investigating if something similar is happening with NEM. It's not a criticism, so you can holster that attitude.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so


keep Assuming my friend...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
wil xem price go to 5k?  Grin
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 10
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "lock up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/


Assuming community funds aren't being traded they're off the market, looks like maybe 25% or so

sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
How many nem are locked away off market in dev accounts, community funds etc

Rich list shows an awful lot of top accounts with names that suggest they're  locked up, similar to masternodes dash effect.


nothing is "locked up" are community funds used for development and marketing
the other ones are exchanges and big corps
https://nemnodes.org/richlist/




LUXTAG.IO release a video Shocked
Do not miss it... i really love it Kiss



source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkgJMvTCDrs
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