Network Attack on XVG / VERGE - page 42.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on April 11, 2018, 08:58:49 AM

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Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

it was mentioned, that the potential partner did not choose verge because its a privacy coin but rather because of their follower base on social media/community. i never mentioned amazon, you said that. i also dont think its them, but paypal is plausible.

but reading your post, your are pretty sure its not paypal..do you have any source/links for this statement?

cheers

You didn't but some others have.

I'm pretty sure Bitcoin has a larger follower base than XVG.
Nothing to prove it's not PayPal except for common sense.

I can place a 5BTC wager with you with a trusted escrow whether it's PayPal or not.
Or whatever amount you're comfortable with.

paypal would never get a deal with bitcoin in the first place. are you going crazy right now? also why should i bet with you about paypal being the partner or not? what do i accomplish? i never stated that i know its 100% paypal..so it makes no sense form me to take this bet. i dont need to prove anything btu you seem to..i wonder why

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Quote from: muf18 on April 11, 2018, 01:18:46 AM

Quote from: luka1002 on April 11, 2018, 01:15:21 AM

Quote from: muf18 on April 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM

If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

Yeah, Zcash - real private cash from private company loool. It can not be private at all.

Don't judge company, judge code.
And it's code is much better, and really private by choice, which verge brag about, but they aren't in reality.

Zcrap can never be anything but a P&D mechanism, it is TRUSTED where true crypto needs to be trustless especially one that is private. That can never change, a trusted setup is not the right way to solve this conundrum. But then again Verge will never be private while Zcrap is.

Quote from: Igloo74 on April 11, 2018, 01:41:27 AM

It seems that all the same artificially pamped Verge, first news about the news that will be on April 16, and possibly cooperation with Amazon. Then hardfork, which successfully competed with the hacker attack. There are doubts that this cooperation awakens with such a giant as the Amazon or Deutsche Bank. We are waiting for the official announcement from the team and I expect a rollback of the price of XVG.

The bolded is pure delusion you need to get your facts straight.

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Quote from: boxalex on April 11, 2018, 07:27:10 AM

Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:56:36 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on April 11, 2018, 06:28:23 AM

Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

it was mentioned, that the potential partner did not choose verge because its a privacy coin but rather because of their follower base on social media/community. i never mentioned amazon, you said that. i also dont think its them, but paypal is plausible.

but reading your post, your are pretty sure its not paypal..do you have any source/links for this statement?

cheers

i personally see the logic behind that comment and i agree with you that the huge follower base my attact a company like paypal. I mean in a sudden you would have things rolling, no need to run long expensive marketing campaigns to make that product/feature available, it will spread itself in lightspeed. And you would have immediatly a lot of users using that feature. It would make sense from paypals point of view for sure. I'am pretty sure at paypal they have got a pretty good risk management as well.

However, we do not know. BUT if its paypal, it would be a huge turbo boost for Verge for sure. And again, all others would profit beside that as well, maybe not that much as with Deutsche Bank or Amazon, but still, it would be good for everybody in the crypto world having such deal.

Its another thing how reliable Verge is as a partner ..... Time will show who was nearest with his guess :-)

volume is high...thats a good sign. lets hope for the best

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Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:56:36 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on April 11, 2018, 06:28:23 AM

Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

it was mentioned, that the potential partner did not choose verge because its a privacy coin but rather because of their follower base on social media/community. i never mentioned amazon, you said that. i also dont think its them, but paypal is plausible.

but reading your post, your are pretty sure its not paypal..do you have any source/links for this statement?

cheers

You didn't but some others have.

I'm pretty sure Bitcoin has a larger follower base than XVG.
Nothing to prove it's not PayPal except for common sense.

I can place a 5BTC wager with you with a trusted escrow whether it's PayPal or not.
Or whatever amount you're comfortable with.

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Quote from: ACP on April 11, 2018, 07:42:56 AM

I'll take bets it's just this=

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/cryptocurrencies

bets start at 1 million xvg Wink

odds 2:1 against your hype bank suggestions

wow so you are sitting on minimum 1 mil xvg and know the partner is ledgerwallet?

i call bullshit on you Grin

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Quote from: ACP on April 11, 2018, 07:42:56 AM

I'll take bets it's just this=

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/cryptocurrencies

bets start at 1 million xvg Wink

odds 2:1 against your hype bank suggestions

me personally is not going to take any bets, lol :-)

However, if its ledgerwallet than it would even not fit into my understanding for deal/partnership, not even talking about "mega deal" and similar.

But after we are going to make guesses. Mine is that the partnership release date, 14.04. if i remember right, will moved to a way later date, at least in May to get some more time for whatever using the hype and uptrend to its best.

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I'll take bets it's just this=

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/cryptocurrencies

bets start at 1 million xvg Wink

odds 2:1 against your hype bank suggestions

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Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:56:36 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on April 11, 2018, 06:28:23 AM

Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

it was mentioned, that the potential partner did not choose verge because its a privacy coin but rather because of their follower base on social media/community. i never mentioned amazon, you said that. i also dont think its them, but paypal is plausible.

but reading your post, your are pretty sure its not paypal..do you have any source/links for this statement?

cheers

i personally see the logic behind that comment and i agree with you that the huge follower base my attact a company like paypal. I mean in a sudden you would have things rolling, no need to run long expensive marketing campaigns to make that product/feature available, it will spread itself in lightspeed. And you would have immediatly a lot of users using that feature. It would make sense from paypals point of view for sure. I'am pretty sure at paypal they have got a pretty good risk management as well.

However, we do not know. BUT if its paypal, it would be a huge turbo boost for Verge for sure. And again, all others would profit beside that as well, maybe not that much as with Deutsche Bank or Amazon, but still, it would be good for everybody in the crypto world having such deal.

Its another thing how reliable Verge is as a partner ..... Time will show who was nearest with his guess :-)

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on April 11, 2018, 06:28:23 AM

Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

it was mentioned, that the potential partner did not choose verge because its a privacy coin but rather because of their follower base on social media/community. i never mentioned amazon, you said that. i also dont think its them, but paypal is plausible.

but reading your post, your are pretty sure its not paypal..do you have any source/links for this statement?

cheers

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Quote from: pluto12345 on April 11, 2018, 06:22:41 AM

as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

Why would PayPal accept Verge out of all cryptocurrencies out there?
It's not fucking PayPal.

PayPal doesn't care about privacy nor does it care about cryptocurrency and if it did, it would accept Bitcoin, not Verge.

It's not PayPal and it's not Amazon.
Take another guess.

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as far as i understood , are tokenpay working together with "deutsche bank" in order to release debit cards wtih verge being the choosen currency.

re the verge partnership: i read somewhere that the partner is a payment provider...so it will never be deutsche bank or fidor bank. fidor bank isnt that huge , detusche bank on the other hand is a monster in germany(and not only germany), but i dont think they partner with verge.

i remember sunerok said in a video, that everyone knows the company...my wildest guess would be paypal. i see it as the only big well known company/payment provider to take such a deal.

imo verge is a "solid" project with a huge twitter follower base...big companies looking out for such things as social media presence. tell me another coin who has such a presence, is still in a low price range and could make such a deal happen. i dont see many to be honest.

but whatever, lets see what the 16th/17th has in store for us.

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It seems that all the same artificially pamped Verge, first news about the news that will be on April 16, and possibly cooperation with Amazon. Then hardfork, which successfully competed with the hacker attack. There are doubts that this cooperation awakens with such a giant as the Amazon or Deutsche Bank. We are waiting for the official announcement from the team and I expect a rollback of the price of XVG.

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Quote from: muf18 on April 11, 2018, 01:18:46 AM

Quote from: luka1002 on April 11, 2018, 01:15:21 AM

Quote from: muf18 on April 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM

If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

Yeah, Zcash - real private cash from private company loool. It can not be private at all.

Don't judge company, judge code.
And it's code is much better, and really private by choice, which verge brag about, but they aren't in reality.

And am i guessing that you can judge code?
So lets judge code, what can you tell about Zcash code? What they can see? It is private coin so we can not see Ip ,location ect... but can they? We do not know that because they are private company , they can probably see everything.

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Quote from: luka1002 on April 11, 2018, 01:15:21 AM

Quote from: muf18 on April 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM

If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

Yeah, Zcash - real private cash from private company loool. It can not be private at all.

Don't judge company, judge code.
And it's code is much better, and really private by choice, which verge brag about, but they aren't in reality.

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Quote from: muf18 on April 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM

If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

Yeah, Zcash - real private cash from private company loool. It can not be private at all. Grin

Only few people know with who Verge will have partnership, so you are speculating as most of people.

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Nope they roll "in" not back, so whoever hacker was - got his coins for exploiting this shitty code.

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So did they fork away the post mined coins? This thread is far too long to catch up on and more than likely 90% trolling.

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Quote from: ocminer on April 10, 2018, 08:57:06 AM

Well from what I see at least they now followed my advice and integrated the mentioned MAX_BLOCKS_PER_ALGO commit from myriad:

https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

This should fix at least the issue to "takeover" the chain by abusing one algo.. If it actually works.

However of course there's still damage done, the abusers funds are mined and in the chain, that guy is pretty rich now I guess

Enough to buy a private island (just kidding!) and have enough left over for taxes?!

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Quote from: muf18 on April 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM

If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

i doubt that 95% of the verge fan base is watching/understanding/viewing/ market cap. Underdog in the meaning of very cheap coin everybody can get, which is
mostly the reason of the big fan base. For these guys Verge is an underdog, at least in my opinion about the pov of the XVG fans.

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If any bank partner with Verge, it will be only, because of money, not great code quality. And it's not underdog - it's cap is bigger than Zcash - real private cash.

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