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sr. member
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April 16, 2018, 07:34:01 AM
There’s a so many potentially good projects existing and coming up in the future. Why take a risk on something like verge? Don’t see the point, that’s how I see it
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April 16, 2018, 03:44:59 AM
Wait wait wait...

Let me get this straight.

The shitcoin that paid McAfee $100k to tweet about it, blew up to massive proportions during a time of extreme market greed, becomes a Nigerian prince and asks for "donations" in order to unlock his untold millions, becomes a target of a "hacker" who gets to keep his coins - is now moving their newly found coins to Binance in order cover a Ledger integration that does not exist?

Holy fuck, I'm mortgaging my house right now to buy more of this crypto gold.

BIGGEST DEAL IN CRYPTOooooooooooooooOOOoooOo (<---the sound is makes when falling to 50 sats)

did mcafee also get paid for the 51% attack on verge

There was no 51% attack you fucking morons. It was a code exploit because your DEVs suck balls.

The only 51 in this equation is the Page number this post is on! Cheesy

They are religious people, they don't understand anything technical and are prohibited from reading anything that doesn't have verge logo on it.
ACP
hero member
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Merit: 520
April 15, 2018, 07:57:48 PM
Wow this thread is still going, bump
 Roll Eyes
member
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April 15, 2018, 06:32:03 PM
Anyone got any idea why Yobit are holding XVG in cold wallet and stalling withdrawals ??

Is there any connection between what I've read on this thread and what's happening at Yobit ?

no idea, but i stay away from yobit as far as possible, seriously. I can not think about a more shaddy exchange than yobit. I wouldn't go there even if i was promised 1 BTC because mostly i wouldn't be able to withdraw it after that.

Seriously now, it thats the case what you are writing i guess they are speculating with the user funds at the moment. Just a guess of course, but that comes first in my mind while reading "yobit".
sr. member
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April 15, 2018, 04:33:06 PM
Anyone got any idea why Yobit are holding XVG in cold wallet and stalling withdrawals ??

Is there any connection between what I've read on this thread and what's happening at Yobit ?
copper member
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April 15, 2018, 04:31:21 PM
Let's not forget that someone, just prior to the 'partner' announcement, bought 104 million XVG at 4.1 cents on Binance.  Either it was a coincidence, or they knew there was a deal coming that was legit.  I must wonder if that person is still holding their coins.

full member
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"Venture into Sports"
April 15, 2018, 01:46:34 PM
After I listened the Boxmining video, just dumped everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK_LdPpIdNA

Regards
copper member
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April 15, 2018, 04:15:58 AM
just sold all  Embarrassed
member
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April 15, 2018, 03:46:19 AM
Wait wait wait...

Let me get this straight.

The shitcoin that paid McAfee $100k to tweet about it, blew up to massive proportions during a time of extreme market greed, becomes a Nigerian prince and asks for "donations" in order to unlock his untold millions, becomes a target of a "hacker" who gets to keep his coins - is now moving their newly found coins to Binance in order cover a Ledger integration that does not exist?

Holy fuck, I'm mortgaging my house right now to buy more of this crypto gold.

BIGGEST DEAL IN CRYPTOooooooooooooooOOOoooOo (<---the sound is makes when falling to 50 sats)

did mcafee also get paid for the 51% attack on verge

There was no 51% attack you fucking morons. It was a code exploit because your DEVs suck balls.

The only 51 in this equation is the Page number this post is on! Cheesy

It's even worse.
And the way sunerok tried to fix it and random guys had to tell him how to "really" fix it was hilarious.
It's funny how they try to justify that 1.5mil $ for ledger.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
April 14, 2018, 09:08:26 PM
Wait wait wait...

Let me get this straight.

The shitcoin that paid McAfee $100k to tweet about it, blew up to massive proportions during a time of extreme market greed, becomes a Nigerian prince and asks for "donations" in order to unlock his untold millions, becomes a target of a "hacker" who gets to keep his coins - is now moving their newly found coins to Binance in order cover a Ledger integration that does not exist?

Holy fuck, I'm mortgaging my house right now to buy more of this crypto gold.

BIGGEST DEAL IN CRYPTOooooooooooooooOOOoooOo (<---the sound is makes when falling to 50 sats)

did mcafee also get paid for the 51% attack on verge

There was no 51% attack you fucking morons. It was a code exploit because your DEVs suck balls.

The only 51 in this equation is the Page number this post is on! Cheesy
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 14, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
I've just dumped my XVG after the Ledger thing.

Doubt there's going to be another spike until the announcement, since now even the XVG subreddit is filled with people doubting the legitimacy of the announcement.

I was hoping to cash out at 1300 so I have 33% profit. Cashed at only 1120 since I don't think even the core base of the coin is not trusting this thing so much.

Probably could have cashed at more if I was a more experienced trader, however, I don't want to risk this.

As you are not an experienced trader here a good advice:

For a good trader there are ONLY 3 possible outcomes:
1.) Huge profit
2.) minimal profit
3.) minimal lose

You took #3 which is not the worst case.


I'm not in a loss.
I bought at 850 sats  Smiley
I made some 0.63BTC on a 2BTC investment, though I was hoping to round it at 3BTC (it was there for a while)
Thought there was going to be one more bull run before the announcement
But since Sunerok moved 18 million XVG to Binance and btchip tweeted Ledger has nothing to do with Verge I dropped it like it's hot  Cheesy
I think it's not going higher anymore, since even the die-hard Vergins are doubting Sunerok now.

Just be glad that you got out. Verge is going to have its BEEEECONNEEEEEEECCCCT moment in a few days.
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April 14, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
Some interesting comments on reddit about the XVG thingie today. Its to everybodies own discretion how to use or read it, but i thought its interesting at least to read it:

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retrospectr3 10 points 21 hours ago*
I posted this same question on the verge subreddit. Curious about what you guys think:

The original crowdfunding tweet said that the donations will be used “to initiate a massive marketing campaign.”

The video on the donation page says that if the deal doesn’t go through the donations will be used to “fund other initiatives,” which are listed above, with the first one being Nano Ledger integration.

So since now the word is that donations will be used for Nano integration, does this mean there is no partnership?


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ZaiRoX 29 points 19 hours ago*
Okay, so Sunerok (Verge dev) claims to be selling XVG to pay for "Ledger"

Source: https://i.redditmedia.com/5ozwuL2JDE03l-tbbtc4O5nEGaMqrJ-paKk3I6rC2CI.jpg?w=431&s=e6185e7059a8be9425fb3c456d282ddf

BUT, Ledger CTO is not aware of anyone on their team working on XVG integration.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8c0nme/verge_owners_are_now_selling_the_xvg_raised_for/dxbr3fd/

This smells of 'something'.....


didn't think about this scenario to be honest, but it would be somehow the smartest in case its a kind of scam:
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shibe5shibe 3 points 22 hours ago
I don't know of any contract or margin offer for Verge. But you can do a pyramid/hyip/ponzi and sell the invested XVG. When it crashes, re-buy it and return just what was invested. Make up some excuse for why there is no profit.

about nano fees and integration:
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xmrscott1 - 2 years account age. 200 - 1000 comment karma. 39 points 22 hours ago*
nano fees and integration

So some interesting basic math:

At time of writing they have withdrawn 13,600,020.58367053504 XVG
At time of writing 1 XVG ~= €0.07755 which means they have withdrawn (not factoring for taxes and conversion fees) €1,053,185.58
It takes €149,000 for Ledger integration Edit: for BTC related coins... "only for project inheriting from Bitcoin. If the blockchain technology is original (ex: Ripple, IOTA...) then the pricing could be much higher". This is for the package that is basically integration + Nano's. Just integration is 1/3 that, 50K EUR.
In other words, they have withdrawn an extra €904,185 if the XVG they have drawn thus far is only for the standard 150K Ledger 'package' or about 6x what is potentially needed. Verge TMK has not explicitly stated and been transparent as to how much Ledger has asked for for XVG integration.
It is also interesting that they have not withdrawn the money for the actual partnership yet given how volatile markets are. A rational person would cash out upon the goal being met so as to guarantee the fiscal value would not be devalued to something below what the partner is asking because of said volatility. Or you know, not being able to cash out because because your coin is so insecure someone found an exploit to mine a block a second and cause deposits of XVG to be frozen on the exchanges.

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[–]NCT93Redditor for 5 months. 10 points 22 hours ago
It's already 18.5 Million XVG which are withdrawn.

a comment about the privacy, did not know this:
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turtleflaxRedditor for 10 months. 10 points 23 hours ago
Their only blockchain "privacy" is stealth address tech vert used to have in 2014. This is weak recipient privacy that means the recipient can generate an address that is private (until they spend the funds). Since the exchange didn't do this there is no privacy in the Tx. As a sender, there is no way to send a Tx privately

The closest you could come is sending to an SA address you generate for yourself, then very carefully sending to the exchange, but this is weak privacy and there's plenty of room for error

Interesting point about the difference of partnership, sponsorship or client:
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laminatorius 8 points 23 hours ago
Just a honest question: They said they need to raise the Verge to pay for the integration with their new partner. How would you do it otherwise than sell it?

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[–]Fordperfect90Redditor for 5 months. 9 points 23 hours ago
Why would they have to pay for an integration? Usually in an enterprise setting integration is waived if the contract is signed for a specific length of time. Also if XVG is the integration point the coins should go to the partner in return for the integration setup. This just doesn't seem right. If you are paying for something it's not a partnership, but a sponsorship. If you are paying for a partner, they have no skin in the game.

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[–]PM__YOUR__GOOD_NEWSRedditor for 6 months. 7 points 23 hours ago
Right.

If you paid for it you're not their partner, you're their client.


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CriptoleteRedditor for 5 months. 11 points 20 hours ago
People donated around 15-20m XVG, and the rest was put by TokenPay. Now strangely 18,6m XVG have been transferred to Binance... I'm being suspicious, but this looks around the amount raised which didn't come from TokenPay.
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April 14, 2018, 01:26:28 PM
Just following some transactions of the XVG crowdfund:

Main Wallet: DLv25ww5CipJngsKMYemBTBWH14CUpucxX
Total Received (XVG): 76276489.40625000
Total Sent (XVG): 18600021.35029100  (today & yesterday)
Balance (XVG): 57676468.05595900


Receiver Wallet: DRC89rUgLsXc6VnyqDaJwNBkvVYoQQbEtx
Total Received (XVG): 17600001.00000000
Total Sent (XVG): 17600001.00000000
==> nearly all coins went here

from there they went here:
Receiver Wallet: DQkwDpRYUyNNnoEZDf5Cb3QVazh4FuPRs9
Total Received (XVG): 6880175123.99616814
Total Sent (XVG): 3451386387.71259260
Balance (XVG): 3428788736.28357506
==> Looks like an exchange with several Billion XVG in it

Having in mind how the price fall the last hours i guess they have been exchanged by now.
If it was sent to the "new partner" than it seems that this partner has not a lot of thrust into XVG having it changed immediatly in lightspeed  Roll Eyes
newbie
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April 14, 2018, 12:59:51 PM
For this dip, now I am assured parntership is a sure thing ...
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 14, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
I've just dumped my XVG after the Ledger thing.

Doubt there's going to be another spike until the announcement, since now even the XVG subreddit is filled with people doubting the legitimacy of the announcement.

I was hoping to cash out at 1300 so I have 33% profit. Cashed at only 1120 since I don't think even the core base of the coin is not trusting this thing so much.

Probably could have cashed at more if I was a more experienced trader, however, I don't want to risk this.

As you are not an experienced trader here a good advice:

For a good trader there are ONLY 3 possible outcomes:
1.) Huge profit
2.) minimal profit
3.) minimal lose

You took #3 which is not the worst case.


I'm not in a loss.
I bought at 850 sats  Smiley
I made some 0.63BTC on a 2BTC investment, though I was hoping to round it at 3BTC (it was there for a while)
Thought there was going to be one more bull run before the announcement
But since Sunerok moved 18 million XVG to Binance and btchip tweeted Ledger has nothing to do with Verge I dropped it like it's hot  Cheesy
I think it's not going higher anymore, since even the die-hard Vergins are doubting Sunerok now.
member
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April 14, 2018, 12:11:33 PM
I've just dumped my XVG after the Ledger thing.

Doubt there's going to be another spike until the announcement, since now even the XVG subreddit is filled with people doubting the legitimacy of the announcement.

I was hoping to cash out at 1300 so I have 33% profit. Cashed at only 1120 since I don't think even the core base of the coin is not trusting this thing so much.

Probably could have cashed at more if I was a more experienced trader, however, I don't want to risk this.

As you are not an experienced trader here a good advice:

For a good trader there are ONLY 3 possible outcomes:
1.) Huge profit
2.) minimal profit
3.) minimal lose

You took #3 which is not the worst case.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
April 14, 2018, 12:02:42 PM
I've just dumped my XVG after the Ledger thing.

Doubt there's going to be another spike until the announcement, since now even the XVG subreddit is filled with people doubting the legitimacy of the announcement.

I was hoping to cash out at 1300 so I have 33% profit. Cashed at only 1120 since I don't think even the core base of the coin is not trusting this thing so much.

Probably could have cashed at more if I was a more experienced trader, however, I don't want to risk this.
member
Activity: 420
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April 14, 2018, 11:46:32 AM
whats the wallet of the XVG crowdfund? I would like to take a look into it....
newbie
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April 14, 2018, 10:07:51 AM
OK, did some research .. it can be alibaba
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