L0l that's what I'm expecting but I'd like to call him out on it because he's telling people they know nothing about verge when he clearly has 0 knowledge and just gave in to the FOMO
Sunerok is answering non-technical questions in other thread (basically with "not true" and stuff), obviously he's gonna ignore questions here 
Topic: Network Attack on XVG / VERGE - page 52. (Read 29539 times)
Forks dont always fix such things as this. XVG should go ahead and fix it and not beat around the bush.
Partnerships coming means they should fix them asap
Partnerships coming means they should fix them asap
The supply that is left is going to take around 7 to 10 years to be mined still,
How long will it take if the attack continues and won't get fixed? Theoretically, i doubt this can/should happen.
Plus if you understand how supply/demand works the more coins are in the market supplied by miners the more buyers you need to have in order to keep the price up
This is only one of the factors for price. There are other not less important factors as well ....
now when you have new buyers but no more coins getting in the price will inflate and not "down like Titanic" because now people are fighting for a limited number of available coins.
Actually not necessary. This eventually would apply for a perfect product/project/item/usecase/patent/you name it. Even more at such high max. supply. I mean there is a difference if you have a currency
with 20.000.000 max supply or 50.000.000.000 for example. The lower the max supply the more true your argument of course would be common sense. But as again, price is not only a simple formular by
max. supply or mining hash rate. There is more involved in a price calculation than thinking that every one holding one of the 16,555,000,000 XVG thinks he will get a unce gold in return for a XVG unit.
Following your logic Ripple would be down the sink already as they have 3 times more coins in circulation than we do.
You miss here that Ripple/XRP has a lot of real partnerships ongoing. I'am not a ripple fan and i think Ripple with such max. supply is overvalued, maybe right now not, but everything over USD 1 for this coin is crazy. But Ripple, if all these partnerships with these banks are real and lasting than they actually have at least a good product that stays behind a given value for its currency, giving it as well some stability, thrust and whatever not the factors for price are. You make a big mistake by thinking real price is the result of 2 factors only, but its not.
And last but not least, XVG is XVG and Ripple is Ripple, i can not see much common things btw. both to compare them anyway.
$1 billion MC for a cheap, privacy clone that forked off Dogecoin. ofc there are going to be problems.
you clearly know a lot about verge, do some research. Verge is not a a dogecoin fork. But people automatically assume it is just because they had the name dogedark before rebrand.
How is verge private if it can succumb to block chain analysis? Where is the touted private ledger that was meant to be released with wraith? Please explain why optional privacy in verge doesn't ruin privacy whereas it's been known that optional privacy is what makes zcash not private. Still waiting.
HA-HA YOU ARE FOOL. YOU KNOW NOTHING. SEE YOU APR 17
$1 billion MC for a cheap, privacy clone that forked off Dogecoin. ofc there are going to be problems.
you clearly know a lot about verge, do some research. Verge is not a a dogecoin fork. But people automatically assume it is just because they had the name dogedark before rebrand.
How is verge private if it can succumb to block chain analysis? Where is the touted private ledger that was meant to be released with wraith? Please explain why optional privacy in verge doesn't ruin privacy whereas it's been known that optional privacy is what makes zcash not private. Still waiting.
HA-HA YOU ARE FOOL. YOU KNOW NOTHING. SEE YOU APR 17
$1 billion MC for a cheap, privacy clone that forked off Dogecoin. ofc there are going to be problems.
you clearly know a lot about verge, do some research. Verge is not a a dogecoin fork. But people automatically assume it is just because they had the name dogedark before rebrand.
How is verge private if it can succumb to block chain analysis? Where is the touted private ledger that was meant to be released with wraith? Please explain why optional privacy in verge doesn't ruin privacy whereas it's been known that optional privacy is what makes zcash not private. Still waiting.
$1 billion MC for a cheap, privacy clone that forked off Dogecoin. ofc there are going to be problems.
you clearly know a lot about verge, do some research. Verge is not a a dogecoin fork. But people automatically assume it is just because they had the name dogedark before rebrand.
Will the fork fix all, delete "hacked" mined blocks? If not can be reviewed the code and stop mining until new mining algorithm is released to avoid such situation?
No haha. The attacker's chain is now the real chain so they'll be forking that. None of the coins are going to be earned or blacklisted.
Will the fork fix all, delete "hacked" mined blocks? If not can be reviewed the code and stop mining until new mining algorithm is released to avoid such situation?
The fork coming at block 2042000 is not going to stop it! It's not a fix!
I've got to the same conclusion.. the attacker just needs to work around that
$1 billion MC for a cheap, privacy clone that forked off Dogecoin. ofc there are going to be problems.
the hacker is online (round #4):
round 4 he says and post a pic from when attack started on 4 april...Facepalm
Look closer to the photo.. probably somebody have something to hide and it's playing with the explorer content
did u see the photo again
A question for VERGE TEAM:
What are you going to do with circulating supply which is according to market cap at 14,8 out of max 16,5, and probably numbers aren't even updated right now?
Correct me if I'm wrong but when this happens, no more rewards for the miners and coin that reaches maximum supply is going down like Titanic?
What are you going to do with circulating supply which is according to market cap at 14,8 out of max 16,5, and probably numbers aren't even updated right now?
Correct me if I'm wrong but when this happens, no more rewards for the miners and coin that reaches maximum supply is going down like Titanic?
The supply that is left is going to take around 7 to 10 years to be mined still, and like any other coin that will reach to their cap the rewards for the miners will be the fees from the transactions. Plus if you understand how supply/demand works the more coins are in the market supplied by miners the more buyers you need to have in order to keep the price up now when you have new buyers but no more coins getting in the price will inflate and not "down like Titanic" because now people are fighting for a limited number of available coins. Following your logic Ripple would be down the sink already as they have 3 times more coins in circulation than we do.
The attack is now going on for 4 days. If this ain't an inside job I don't know what is. You don't let something like this to go on for days without any serious intervention, unless you want to intentionally tank it or you are directly or indirectly profiting from the attack.
Looks like XVG team dont care about loses. Looks intentional.
Vitaminas - if they allow to mine it this manner it takes 10days till 17th April. Vitaminas A ar C?
do you even know that we have a fork at block 2042000 that will stop it? guess you don't you are more busy hating i get you.
The fork coming at block 2042000 is not going to stop it! It's not a fix!
Lol their proposed fix is to make sure that not more than 5/10 blocks are mined with the same algo. Attacker just needs to work around that. I'm sure there's a much better way to implement this.
A question for VERGE TEAM:
What are you going to do with circulating supply which is according to market cap at 14,8 out of max 16,5, and probably numbers aren't even updated right now?
Correct me if I'm wrong but when this happens, no more rewards for the miners and coin that reaches maximum supply is going down like Titanic?
What are you going to do with circulating supply which is according to market cap at 14,8 out of max 16,5, and probably numbers aren't even updated right now?
Correct me if I'm wrong but when this happens, no more rewards for the miners and coin that reaches maximum supply is going down like Titanic?
The supply that is left is going to take around 7 to 10 years to be mined still, and like any other coin that will reach to their cap the rewards for the miners will be the fees from the transactions. Plus if you understand how supply/demand works the more coins are in the market supplied by miners the more buyers you need to have in order to keep the price up now when you have new buyers but no more coins getting in the price will inflate and not "down like Titanic" because now people are fighting for a limited number of available coins. Following your logic Ripple would be down the sink already as they have 3 times more coins in circulation than we do.
The attack is now going on for 4 days. If this ain't an inside job I don't know what is. You don't let something like this to go on for days without any serious intervention, unless you want to intentionally tank it or you are directly or indirectly profiting from the attack.
Looks like XVG team dont care about loses. Looks intentional.
Vitaminas - if they allow to mine it this manner it takes 10days till 17th April. Vitaminas A ar C?
do you even know that we have a fork at block 2042000 that will stop it? guess you don't you are more busy hating i get you.
The fork coming at block 2042000 is not going to stop it! It's not a fix!
idiot the explorer dont work for now because the timestamps were reversed at block 2040000, refrain yourself from talking if you have no idea what is going on, you just made yourself look like a fool.
I am not surprised with your attitude since you are on the XVG teamBehavior generates behavior. And when you say something like that with the only purpose of hurting the project you don't deserve to be treated differentely.
Can you confirm you're indeed on the team?
Never said i was, i am just a purple on discord.
Okay so you're clearly talking out of your ass. They couldn't fork and have now delayed it to 2042000 l0l. Enjoy holding your bags
Are you sure you are not the one talking out of your ass? "They couldn't fork" you lost a great change to refrain from talking if that was the only thing you were going to say. We can fork at anytime we want delaying the fork as to do with the fact that that we need to be 100% sure before doing it. You can check github commit is there for hours already way before we even reach block 204000, now go back to your cave.
Oh so they're waiting to be 100% sure for... 4 days now? And do you want to explain the 3 botched fixes that show the dev doesn't know jack shit about crypto? What about the copied "fix" that he copied over with the error in the comment. Stop shilling scams, it's akin to scamming yourself. And because you're talking about fundamentals, explain how having a public ledger prevents blockchain analysis. What happened to the so called public/private ledger coexistence that Wraith was supposed to bring? They even took out the private ledger part from their "black paper". So you're either an idiot sheep who's been brainwashed or you know this coin is a scam but are trying to shill it to try to at least make some money on your stupid decision of buying in.
you calling a 4 years old coin a scam? Do you even know the meaning of the word and how its possible to be applied in this situation considering how old this coin is? the more i deal with people like you the more i love animals, take your hate and trash talk and use it to do something for yourself, maybe you should create your own coin? oh wait you don't have the knowledge to make one...
Yes, it is a scam. You still didn't answer my questions. I know why you didn't. You don't have answers. You're scared you don't but it's okay. You can convince all the vergins that verge is amazing but you can't convince people who know what's happening. Where is the private ledger? What prevents blockchain analysis? Which, coincidentally is the only people are caught when they use crypto.
the hacker is online (round #4):
round 4 he says and post a pic from when attack started on 4 april...Facepalm
Look closer to the photo.. probably somebody have something to hide and it's playing with the explorer content
idiot the explorer dont work for now because the timestamps were reversed at block 2040000, refrain yourself from talking if you have no idea what is going on, you just made yourself look like a fool.
I am not surprised with your attitude since you are on the XVG teamBehavior generates behavior. And when you say something like that with the only purpose of hurting the project you don't deserve to be treated differentely.
Can you confirm you're indeed on the team?
Never said i was, i am just a purple on discord.
Okay so you're clearly talking out of your ass. They couldn't fork and have now delayed it to 2042000 l0l. Enjoy holding your bags
Are you sure you are not the one talking out of your ass? "They couldn't fork" you lost a great change to refrain from talking if that was the only thing you were going to say. We can fork at anytime we want delaying the fork as to do with the fact that that we need to be 100% sure before doing it. You can check github commit is there for hours already way before we even reach block 204000, now go back to your cave.
Oh so they're waiting to be 100% sure for... 4 days now? And do you want to explain the 3 botched fixes that show the dev doesn't know jack shit about crypto? What about the copied "fix" that he copied over with the error in the comment. Stop shilling scams, it's akin to scamming yourself. And because you're talking about fundamentals, explain how having a public ledger prevents blockchain analysis. What happened to the so called public/private ledger coexistence that Wraith was supposed to bring? They even took out the private ledger part from their "black paper". So you're either an idiot sheep who's been brainwashed or you know this coin is a scam but are trying to shill it to try to at least make some money on your stupid decision of buying in.
you calling a 4 years old coin a scam? Do you even know the meaning of the word and how its possible to be applied in this situation considering how old this coin is? the more i deal with people like you the more i love animals, take your hate and trash talk and use it to do something for yourself, maybe you should create your own coin? oh wait you don't have the knowledge to make one...
idiot the explorer dont work for now because the timestamps were reversed at block 2040000, refrain yourself from talking if you have no idea what is going on, you just made yourself look like a fool.
I am not surprised with your attitude since you are on the XVG teamBehavior generates behavior. And when you say something like that with the only purpose of hurting the project you don't deserve to be treated differentely.
Can you confirm you're indeed on the team?
Never said i was, i am just a purple on discord.
Okay so you're clearly talking out of your ass. They couldn't fork and have now delayed it to 2042000 l0l. Enjoy holding your bags
Are you sure you are not the one talking out of your ass? "They couldn't fork" you lost a great change to refrain from talking if that was the only thing you were going to say. We can fork at anytime we want delaying the fork as to do with the fact that that we need to be 100% sure before doing it. You can check github commit is there for hours already way before we even reach block 204000, now go back to your cave.
Oh so they're waiting to be 100% sure for... 4 days now? And do you want to explain the 3 botched fixes that show the dev doesn't know jack shit about crypto? What about the copied "fix" that he copied over with the error in the comment. Stop shilling scams, it's akin to scamming yourself. And because you're talking about fundamentals, explain how having a public ledger prevents blockchain analysis. What happened to the so called public/private ledger coexistence that Wraith was supposed to bring? They even took out the private ledger part from their "black paper". So you're either an idiot sheep who's been brainwashed or you know this coin is a scam but are trying to shill it to try to at least make some money on your stupid decision of buying in.
the hacker is online (round #4):
round 4 he says and post a pic from when attack started on 4 april...Facepalm
idiot the explorer dont work for now because the timestamps were reversed at block 2040000, refrain yourself from talking if you have no idea what is going on, you just made yourself look like a fool.
I am not surprised with your attitude since you are on the XVG teamBehavior generates behavior. And when you say something like that with the only purpose of hurting the project you don't deserve to be treated differentely.
Can you confirm you're indeed on the team?
Never said i was, i am just a purple on discord.
Okay so you're clearly talking out of your ass. They couldn't fork and have now delayed it to 2042000 l0l. Enjoy holding your bags
Are you sure you are not the one talking out of your ass? "They couldn't fork" you lost a great change to refrain from talking if that was the only thing you were going to say. We can fork at anytime we want delaying the fork as to do with the fact we need to be 100% sure before doing it. You can check github commit is there for hours already way before we even reach block 2040000, now go back to your cave.
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