New BFL update. 25 February 2013. - page 2.

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Quote from: crazyates on March 01, 2013, 12:24:23 AM

Quote from: creativex on February 28, 2013, 11:41:20 PM

That 5000 will turn into less than 4000 when the defective chips are excluded. So yeah, after all this time waiting a whole lot of people are just going to be waiting moar and they'll be understandably displeased.

Care to explain why you expect the BFL chips to have a 20% failure rate?

Umm...you want me to explain wafer defects?

Their competition didn't go with 110 and 130nm for their first products because they mistakenly thought higher numbers were better. Wink

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Quote from: crazyates on March 01, 2013, 12:24:23 AM

Quote from: creativex on February 28, 2013, 11:41:20 PM

That 5000 will turn into less than 4000 when the defective chips are excluded. So yeah, after all this time waiting a whole lot of people are just going to be waiting moar and they'll be understandably displeased.

Care to explain why you expect the BFL chips to have a 20% failure rate?

Good point! From what I've seen on YT, it'll be either 0% or 100%--nothing in between.

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Quote from: creativex on February 28, 2013, 11:41:20 PM

That 5000 will turn into less than 4000 when the defective chips are excluded. So yeah, after all this time waiting a whole lot of people are just going to be waiting moar and they'll be understandably displeased.

Care to explain why you expect the BFL chips to have a 20% failure rate?

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Quote from: repentance on March 01, 2013, 12:03:30 AM

They should probably hurry up and get their order management software fixed. How are people supposed to update their shipping method when the rate calculator is returning stupid amounts which make no sense?

I also wonder how many of those who sold their pre-orders way back when have moved address by now. BFL has always said they'll only ship to the address of the person who originally placed the order, so I expect we're going to see a couple of threads from people who bought a pre-order from someone else and never receive their unit.

So, if a person moved to a new home during the interim, the item(s) is shipped to the given address regardless? If not, then the system can be gamed.

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They should probably hurry up and get their order management software fixed. How are people supposed to update their shipping method when the rate calculator is returning stupid amounts which make no sense?

I also wonder how many of those who sold their pre-orders way back when have moved address by now. BFL has always said they'll only ship to the address of the person who originally placed the order, so I expect we're going to see a couple of threads from people who bought a pre-order from someone else and never receive their unit.

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That 5000 will turn into less than 4000 when the defective chips are excluded. So yeah, after all this time waiting a whole lot of people are just going to be waiting moar and they'll be understandably displeased.

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Quote from: repentance on February 28, 2013, 11:29:21 PM

Now we wait to learn how many of each unit BFL will manufacturer from the first 5,000 chips. No matter what the answer, it's going to piss off ~~some people~~ everyone.

FTFY

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Now we wait to learn how many of each unit BFL will manufacture from the first 5,000 chips. No matter what the answer, it's going to piss off some people.

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Manateeeeeeees

Quote from: Superzero on February 28, 2013, 07:26:07 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 07:08:47 PM

Side by side comparison.

Why was time taken to present the photo on the left when clearly it's a compressed image of the one on the right?

Those pesky 38-pin packages, man.

It's a conspiracy! They probably photoshopped it to make us think it wasn't a fake! BFL IS OBVIOUSLY A SCAM! Grassy nole! Bilderbergers! PRIORY OF ZION!

ILLUMINATI!

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 07:08:47 PM

Side by side comparison.

http://i48.tinypic.com/35k7mdd.png http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8517488290_dacd8ffee7_n.jpg

Why was time taken to present the photo on the left when clearly it's a compressed image of the one on the right?

Those pesky 38-pin packages, man.

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Makes sense, repentance. Thanks, bud.

Now, which one of the guys crossed the wires?

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 07:08:47 PM

Side by side comparison.

Why was time taken to present the photo on the left when clearly it's a compressed image of the one on the right?

When I was following the thread yesterday, it was BFL customers who were putting together the composite images and posting them, not BFL. The results varied according to the poster's ability to use image manipulation software.

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Side by side comparison.

Why was time taken to present the photo on the left when clearly it's a compressed image of the one on the right?

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Looks to me like BFL's granny's been sippin' a tad too much Vick's Formula 44® prior to her shift. (click to view larger image)

Also, note that the faint wires don't lead to anything, for they're only connected at one end then fade into another dimension. I wonder if BFL is showing us their next gen quantum chip by mistake.

Oops! Somebody's got their wires crossed.

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Quote from: Enigma81 on February 28, 2013, 02:52:18 AM

While not diced, the picture of the full wafer does show the separation of the individual dice.. They look awfully 'square' to me.. This single die looks rectangular. Optical dillusion, perhaps?

No, Enigma, you simply didn't read what PuertoLibre had wrote:

Quote from: PuertoLibre on February 28, 2013, 12:15:47 AM

Composite picture of Test Chips

Once again: Composite picture...
It's made of four different pictures. Do look at the picture more carefully and you will see boundaries of the subpictures. The wires "crossings" will help you.

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Quote from: mrb on February 28, 2013, 03:30:25 AM

That is correct. BFL originally said that refunds would be allowed "60 days past target", that is 60 days past Oct 31, that is after Dec 31:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.993703 (the only reason I have the link is because I had saved it)

Strangely, the above post was deleted(!)

No, it wasn't deleted. The thread was splitted by gmaxwell and the post you are looking for is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.993703

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Quote from: ab8989 on February 28, 2013, 10:02:14 AM

Forget top/down. What I mean is that the feature-side of the die shown on top on the wirebonded picture does not look like normal feature-side of a die like one shown in the wafer picture and that is a problem to explain why is that.

You mean the solder mask?

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Quote from: ab8989 on February 28, 2013, 08:58:19 AM

With this new information I am not even sure the CAD files had anything to do with BFL ASIC.

But they make beautiful flash memory, don't they?

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I think the real question we aren't asking is whether or not BFL actually has any of the money still, not when and how they will deliver on their promise.

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