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May 26, 2013, 02:04:38 AM
#11
Keep them coming. Does it have sports betting?

Not at this stage but we are considering it somewhere down the line once we have been up and running for a while.

I would like to add that to have SportsBet means incorporating a whole lot more systems and staff into our site and we are not yet finished ironing out the kinks for what we have at present, but it's fair to say that in time we will be able to.

You need to realize to have this option is basically building an entirely new casino platform and a sh!t tonne of hard work and expenditure, pardon my French, and we are doing our best to bring you everything from Live Tables (with extremely pretty girls) to the best software money can buy and everything from VISA and PayPal for verified patrons to crypto's for those who don't want those features, live assistance and a VIP program, and what we are doing is a huge undertaking spanning the entire globe.

Once we are fully functional we will see what happens, but for now I can not make promises I can not keep and so I will just leave it at that since we would need bookies from everywhere from EU to AU, let alone incorporating them into our systems in real time BUT, we may have a form of casino gambling on randomized horse racing games that imitate at least this sport and we will also have poker tournaments etc too.

Unfortunately, SportsBet also requires a whole new set of licenses to acquire and perhaps we could have a discussion and see if we can't launch it as a sister site to our main casino and if you register at one then you have the option to register at our other, but we aren't Caesar's Palace but Rome wasn't built in a day so leave it with us.

We will do our best in the future to accommodate this request if there is enough demand that I can give you my word on.  Wink

Best wishes and thank for your inquiry it was a good question and one that had arisen during our round table discussions in the boardroom.  Smiley

Kind regard - SkullCard
newbie
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May 26, 2013, 01:41:51 AM
#10
Keep them coming. Does it have sports betting?
newbie
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May 26, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
#9
I am not going to argue with you buddy, you have been warned out of sheer generosity of our not wishing to see you lose your money unfairly, and disproven that your mathematical skills aren't up to par and anyone would think you work for bitZino the way you go on.  Roll Eyes

However more than likely it is because they are the only website with no moral scruples and will take your money I am inclined to believe Josh before yourself I'm afraid just like my genuine statistics and odds over your... I don't how you came up with those odds, but they are incorrect as is your misplaced faith in someone who takes your belongings without any moral scruples and breaks US Federal Law in order to do so which should speak volumes in itself.  Embarrassed

Good day dooglus!  Smiley

SkullCard  Cool


*Edit: I will say that if you think 3800BTC's is $380,000 you should go back to sophomore math class and start again!     Cheesy
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 01:20:01 AM
#8
*Edit: Also, it was his life savings as he used his $50K student loan to get that far ahead not $100 as yet you claim again something of which you have no understanding

All I know is what I read in the reddit thread:

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That morning, the crash began. I kept playing. On April 10 I lost all my profits.

At this point I was in full-tilt mode. [...] this was when I made the Really Big Mistake. I dipped into my student tuition loan (around $50,000). I turned into an animal, and I lost everything.

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I failed both the martingale and the random walk. I lost ~1800 BTC (~$380,000 and depreciating quickly) in less than 1 minute.

I still had $50,000 left in USD. After the crash died down, I immediately bought in BTC to make up the losses. I kept betting red, and hit another run of about 12-15 black5 . I lost the $50,000 the same way.

Both of these quotes make it pretty clear that he didn't play with any of his $50k USD student loan until after he had lost his initial Bitcoin "investment".
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 01:09:31 AM
#7
That Strike Sapphire one has a distinct difference, the repetition of three numbers occurring consecutively which for all intents and purposes is impossible combined with the fact that this one also happened to be fifteen deep of reds.

All combinations of outcomes of equal length are equally likely.  The 10 numbers in your screenshot are just as likely as 10 zeroes in a row, for instance.

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The chances of a twenty deep string of a red/black, odd.\/even, High or low is actually 1,813,778 to 1 or a percentage chance of 0.000055% and I suggest you check your claims prior to making statements you clearly are not capable of adequately deducing as can be shown here,

I quoted the odds of losing 20 such bets in a row.  That includes getting zeroes.  It doesn't matter because this "20 reds in a row" never happened, according to the original reddit post itself.

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and the fact you are forever telling this person how to fix his code shows more holes in your beliefs than a block of Swiss cheese.

I've never told him how to fix his code.  I've never seen his code.  I've seen his site, made suggestions about how it could be better, and he's listened.  Sometimes he does what I suggest, sometimes he doesn't, but either way he's quick and efficient about it.  Except for adding keyboard shortcuts.  He sucks at that...

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Perhaps like these figures you ought to reconsider your mistaken claims of knowing something you can not prove and unless the hash tag were sent to a third party and overseen by an independent governing body then "provably fair" has about as much truth as the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.

You ought to do some reading before you do more writing on the subject.  You're making yourself look silly.  "hash tag" is something to do with twitter.  In short, here's how it works: the site picks a random text string, and publishes its hash in advance.  Then I pick any text string I like, and send it to the site.  The site then sticks those two strings together and uses the result to select the outcome of the spin.  Then they reveal their text string.  I can verify that the hash they published in advance is correct, and that our two strings together give the result we saw.  That way they can't possibly pick the outcome of any spin, since my text string affects the outcome.

https://bitzino.com/about/fair goes into more detail if you want to understand.  But if you want to just keep ranting about hash tags, third parties, etc. then that's OK too.

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Furthermore if you wish to discuss this Strike Sapphire is quite active on the casinomeister.com forums and I am sure he would be happy to address any issues you have as you sound a little butt-hurt that they banned you from playing there for, as you claim having multiple accounts, but was more likely the fact you were either a US citizen and they are obeying the law of a country which by the way unlike bitZino is not registered in the US and therefore not liable to any repercussions but choose to do so anyway showing quite clearly they are doing the right thing by the US Government as well as their patrons, or you are running your account through a proxy and were detected doing so.

I think Josh has heard quite enough from me on the topic.  He never thought I was in the US, or using a proxy.  He thought that I was about 6 different people who I referred to the casino.  One of them was called "Doug", and that was close enough to make him think it was me.  I was actively encouraging friends to sign up, selling them Bitcoins so they could deposit, telling them about the promotional bonuses, etc.  All the things that I thought he wanted, but it didn't work out.  He also told me my girlfriend doesn't exist, which is a little offensive (even though he spoke to her on Skype).  But none of that matters - just saying that Sapphire isn't an option for me any more.

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If you wish to gamble your money with dishonest websites then I can not help you Strike Sapphire uses a genuine RNG and I will repeat myself one more time that bitZino are NOT provably fair and the fact you believe this is comical!  Undecided

It's really not about belief.  It's about mathematics.  You can verify for yourself, spin by spin, that it is fair.

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Good luck playing against a loaded dice my friend and I can assure you the gentleman in question lost what he claims.

I'm not claiming he didn't.  He was obviously betting huge amounts to from $100 up to $500k and back again.  Long losing streaks happen.  Martingale is a crappy strategy that doesn't work, long term.

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I find your sycophantic behavior to be somewhat disturbing and one need only look at the quality of Strike Sapphire using software that although doesn't compare with ours is clearly a superior site. and doesn't require input from someone such as yourself on every glitch under the sun and was not coded by some someone in their basement at home.

The Sapphire software was written by Josh (I don't know if he wrote it in his bedroom or basement, or why you care what room people write their code in), and had some really ugly bugs in it.  I probably reported more bugs about Sapphire than any other site I've played at.  Josh rewarded me in loyalty points for each bug I reported, promising that they're be worth something some day, and then took them all away when he banned me.  Also I personally prefer the speed and clean look of the bitZino HTML5 interface to the proprietary mess that is Abode Flash used in the Sapphire interface, but realise that's just a personal preference.
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Google/YouTube
May 26, 2013, 12:58:13 AM
#6
That's pretty cool Smiley
newbie
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May 26, 2013, 12:54:52 AM
#5
Looks nice, i'll look into it for sure
newbie
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May 26, 2013, 12:41:32 AM
#4
That Strike Sapphire one has a distinct difference, the repetition of three numbers occurring consecutively which for all intents and purposes is impossible combined with the fact that this one also happened to be fifteen deep of reds.

10 of the same color in a row has a  1,346 to 1 chance and therefore is relatively rare but not on bitZino and 15 deep as this screenshot was a 49,423 to 1 chance of occurring and combined with just a single number repeating itself are 1,368 to 1 and the chances of it happening consecutively three times in a row combined with the odds of a 15 deep string of any particular color are for all intents and purposes impossible and as previously stated you have a better chance of winning the lottery!  Roll Eyes

The chances of a twenty deep string of a red/black, odd\/even, High or low is actually 1,813,778 to 1 or a percentage chance of 0.000055% and I suggest you check your claims prior to making statements you clearly are not capable of adequately deducing as can be shown here, and the fact you are forever telling this person how to fix his code shows more holes in your beliefs than a block of Swiss cheese. Perhaps like these figures you ought to reconsider your mistaken claims of knowing something you can not prove and unless the hash tag were sent to a third party and overseen by an independent governing body then "provably fair" has about as much truth as the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.

Furthermore if you wish to discuss this Strike Sapphire is quite active on the casinomeister.com forums and I am sure he would be happy to address any issues you have as you sound a little butt-hurt that they banned you from playing there for, as you claim having multiple accounts, but was more likely the fact you were either a US citizen and they are obeying the law of a country which by the way unlike bitZino is not registered in the US and therefore not liable to any repercussions but choose to do so anyway showing quite clearly they are doing the right thing by the US Government as well as their patrons, or you are running your account through a proxy and were detected doing so.

If you wish to gamble your money with dishonest websites then I can not help you Strike Sapphire uses a genuine RNG and I will repeat myself one more time that bitZino are NOT provably fair and the fact you believe this is comical!  Undecided

Good luck playing against a loaded dice my friend and I can assure you the gentleman in question lost what he claims. I find your sycophantic behavior to be somewhat disturbing and one need only look at the quality of Strike Sapphire using software that although doesn't compare with ours is clearly a superior site, and doesn't require input from someone such as yourself on every glitch under the sun and was not coded by some someone in their basement at home.

However sadly, the world is full of people willing to give their money to dishonest people as clearly illustrated by your incessant brownosing of the Devil that steals your belongings and we can not help you if you wish to do so as I said, good luck.

SkullCard    Smiley


*Edit: Also, it was his life savings as he used his $50K student loan to get that far ahead not $100 as yet you claim again something of which you have no understanding and now can not finish his degree at MIT he was half way through completing (3yrs remaining) because he was taken for a long ride, like yourself allows to happen and as will happen to libertaad AKA Larry Taad when the US authorities finish their investigations and get around to arresting him and his accomplices.
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May 25, 2013, 07:04:35 PM
#3
Good one!  Smiley
legendary
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May 25, 2013, 05:50:10 PM
#2
We implore you until we are up and running that you only bet, should you wish to, at either Strike Sapphire or Bit777, as you will never see results such as this image at our casino that give you more chance of going to the moon in a Volkswagen than happening in a proper casino, or indeed any casino's online even blacklisted ones one casinomeister.com's website etc that this casino belongs in and would if they operated with real world currencies.



Your screenshot shows 10 reds in a row on the provably fair site, bitZino.



My screenshot shows 9 blacks in a row on the not probably fair site, Strike Sapphire.  Not shown are the two previous spins, which were also black (see the chat) making 11 in a row.

These things happen, and aren't even particularly rare.  11 the same colour in a row happens about once every 1350 spins on average (assuming a single zero).

You also seem to have some basic misunderstandings of how provable fairness works.  bitZino proves mathematically that they do not and can not cheat the player.  It takes a little effort to understand how that works, but it's worth doing rather than spending that time posting obvious falsehoods here.

he managed to get twenty or more of the same color opposing his color on roulette that is clearly evidence of malpractice on the sites owners since like this picture attached to this message is virtually impossible with a proper RNG being that it's probability of occurring is 1,813,778 to 1

Losing 20 red/black bets in a row happens once every 615124 spins on average and so it would be surprising if it hadn't happened already given how popular the site is:



And if you read his thread more carefully, you'll see that he didn't really get 20 losses in a row:

What followed was a run of about 20 occurences of black5 . There must have been two reds in between the stream of blacks.

Sounds like he wasn't really counting and doesn't remember.  He was clearly out of control.  And the $500k that he lost wasn't his life savings, it was previous gambling winnings.  You don't turn $100 into $500k gambling without taking a bunch of crazy risks.  He got lucky, then he got unlucky.  It certainly doesn't prove that bitZino are cheating.  And their provable fairness system can be used to satisfy yourself that they're not.

I'm not affiliated with bitZino in any way.  I don't even have a referral link for them.  They're just the best Bitcoin casino I've found so far.
newbie
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May 25, 2013, 04:59:20 AM
#1
Hi there fellow worshipers of Bitcoin and the world of crypto generally,

SkullCard here to announce we are opening a new crypto based casino shortly and are just in final negotiations now with major distributors of online gaming software such as Playtech Microgaming and setting up the necessary servers to handle any traffic or DDoS/hack attempts anyone may attempt on our site once it's launched.

Our aim is to bring you the best possible experience we can offer and would just like to announce our existence to you and we will provide you with something to enjoy that will not scam you like such websites as bitZino.com and other nefarious practitioners of online gaming using real world currencies also. At present there is a site under construction called bitzinoscamDOTcom to help route out these dishonest scam artists.

We will be offering everything from Roulette including zero green tables, Baccarat, Live Tables, Poker Tournament, Texas HoldEm, Craps, Pokies, Slots, various Blackjack and many many more to choose from.

We won't even consider bitZino to be a competitor since their whole operation is not only illegal since the United States banned online gaming in 2006, but highly fraudulent also for high rollers who commonly are scammed out of their money through their unscrupulous gaming practices despite their claims of being as they like to say "Provably Fair" offering no proof except their word, and those of us involved in the administration of casino software are more than aware of theirs and other abilities to dupe their players through manipulating outcomes and careful monitoring of games and modifying outcomes to suit their nefarious ends and steal your hard earned money.

Based on their obviously primitive design, lack of instant online support and proper live tables, leaves anyone who has gambled online much to be desired in every aspect from legality to safety, despite the lack of oversight of their systems etc, we recommend others beware of this rogue website operating under the noses of the legal authorities of the United States and they will be brought offline very soon and are attempting to rake in as much as possible prior to this outcome and you only need to look at Strike Sapphire to see the difference in a company who cares about it's legality and good standing making it impossible for US players (relatively speaking) to use their site obeying the laws of the Unites States compared to other such casino sites as bitZino who break the law by accepting players from the US where they are based also. Although Bit777 do accept US players, there is a stark contrast between themselves at Bitzino for all to see and since their servers are not based out of the US they are not obliged to follow US laws.

We will also be trying to work with Bit777 and Strike Sapphire along with BetWithBTC.com eventually to establish a Bitcoin gaming regulatory body that we will all contribute funding to to voluntarily oversee our systems to ensure you that what we offer is not only truly "provably fair" but is also overseen by someone you can trust with honest statistics and gaming probabilities based on proper analytic software and gaming histories.

Although these bitZino people claim to offer you a hash to allegedly "prove" their games are fair, this is far from the case and extremely deceptive and what you can consider that as is your receipt for your game history on their system and anything but a fair RNG system as the picture accompanying this message shows.

We implore you until we are up and running that you only bet, should you wish to, at either Strike Sapphire or Bit777, as you will never see results such as this image at our casino that give you more chance of going to the moon in a Volkswagen than happening in a proper casino, or indeed any casino's online even blacklisted ones one casinomeister.com's website etc that this casino belongs in and would if they operated with real world currencies.

We will be launching some time in the next few months and will accommodate the ability to use Litecoin also at this stage, and possibly other currencies eventually as well once we have ironed out some kinks and done continuous rigorous testing of our systems as we wish to ensure everything is safe and secure for you to gamble with confidence on our site.

At present we are currently debating whether to operate a system similar to Bit777 that offers you 100 "chips" for each currency you choose to play with OR, we can convert your deposits to USD upon depositing at the then market value and when you cashout in your chosen crypto again you get the market value of said currency at time with a live feed on our site showing and we would like some feedback on what people would prefer before we launch. At present we are leaning toward BTC/LTC only but if we go the other direction we will be able to accept virtually an endless amount of crypto's as payment opening the site to many others involved in the crypto mining world.

We look forward to offering you a completely safe, legitimate and fair platform to play and should you win with us you can rest assured you will get what you win without being defrauded of your winnings or have them taken from you with impossible occurrences like the young man on Reddit who was taken by bitZino's operators for $500K worth of BTC's in a matter of minutes and you will know we are legitimate also because we would never allow someone to gamble this sum without providing extra evidence they aren't either attempting to use our site to launder money or that they can afford to lose that sum by providing proof of who they are. It is only under exceptional circumstances we will require ID from anyone however and if we suspect you of malpractice we will reverse any transactions and certainly not keep something that is not rightfully ours.

We want you to have fun on our site not lose your entire life savings however what occurred to him will not occurred on our site as he managed to get twenty or more of the same color opposing his color on roulette that is clearly evidence of malpractice on the sites owners since like this picture attached to this message is virtually impossible with a proper RNG being that it's probability of occurring is 1,813,778 to 1 and if you favor odds such as these we recommend you gamble on the Lottery instead of our casino because we believe you will have more to gain than a few rounds of Craps.

We will update this post periodically letting you know our progress as we get closer to launch date and unlike bitZino we will have a plethora of games for you to chose from as we said using legitimate software from the biggest players in the industry and not something someone cooked up in their bedroom involving "twists" and above all "secrets" that you can never, and will never prove to be true.

Will be in touch and wish you all the best. Stay safe and remember to be a Leet you have to pay to be Leet in this industry, because nothing in this world is free except for WOW money and only then that's assuming you've "hacked the Gibson" and generated free items or money. If we find anyone trying to penetrate our systems or networks we'll "echo 23 and see what's up" and then "insist the FBI take more strenuous action" lol.

Look forward to being a part of your lives if you gamble and offering customers a service that's second to none!

Peace and Love - SkullCard

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