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Topic: New Diff thread Mar 8 to Mar 22. - page 2. (Read 8432 times)

legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
March 22, 2015, 05:05:24 AM
Something is up with the spreadsheet. Getting an Cannot divide by 0 error. Either way.

Less than 100 blocks to go !!!!!!!!!!

copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
March 21, 2015, 10:22:27 PM
We have had a number of nearly 1 hour blocks today, this is probably what is causing this, plus the fact that the last several days have seen much fewer blocks then we should have.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
March 21, 2015, 10:13:30 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645

is at (-3.36%) falling like a rock!!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

is at  (-1.13%)

127 blocks to go

btc = 260usd

we are 66 blocks behind the pace


1889 instead of 1955.  we may have a carry over. frankly a -3.36% drop would be very welcome
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
March 21, 2015, 04:05:59 PM
I'd say between 0 and -1%, but I'm always wrong so whoever is on either site of this interval has a good chance.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 21, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    46,846,395,019 (-1.23%)
Adjust time:    After 210 Blocks, About 1.5 days

Price seems steady around 260 right now. 
alh
legendary
Activity: 1846
Merit: 1052
March 21, 2015, 03:43:11 AM
Looks like if I want to win this round I better restart that 10PH that's been sitting cold for the last few weeks. Gotta be careful though since I don't want to overshoot....  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
March 21, 2015, 01:39:35 AM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.

I still think the big guys are holding back from dropping 3 or 4 million on a new chip super farm.

Basically Bitfury made a lot of money and then shut down gear.
While they can make a .25 watt /gh machine
I think they are afraid to commit the 3-6 million need to make a 20-40ph farm at the current btc price level.

This is a good thing. I am hoping for 11-18 months between gear.

the s-1 was nov-dec 2013----------------------------- 2 watt gear
the s-3 was june- july 2014--------------------------- 0.8 watt gear
the s-5 was nov-dec   2014--------------------------- 0.5 watt gear

the s-6 or  s-7 has been mentioned for  later then june 2015 I read this  here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10826237


So say the s-6 comes out in July and is 0.38 or 0.4 watt gear
Then in sept the s-7 comes out at .3 watts
We are seeing a mature asic industry unfold.

This reminds me of the intel cpu's once sandy bridge arrived pc's are so good  the next two gen's pushed us into little mini pc's
Anyone with an i7 2600 cpu in a desktop has no need for an i7 4790 desktop.(90% true not 100%)

So to drive sales the pc industry is pushing tablets and mobile gear over desktops.

So if you have a .4 watt asic replace a .5 watt asic  what is your gain?
I do wonder how this plays out.

 I would not mind rocket to the moon on btc to 2000usd. It would wake everyone  up.

 I think we wander around in the 200-300 price slot and in the 44-49 diff range for months to come. I can live with that.





Well said Philip like always.

Im pretty sure right now the company are waiting to see the next 2 or 3 difficulty jump to see if they want to invest more or not.
I will be more than happy if we can stay between 44 and 49. That will give us a break and use our miner a little bit more.
The last 2 years was a race to buy, mine, sell the newest miners.

As for the price, if we stay at this diff, I think we could see a stable grown. Less fluctuation will also help people to get in Bitcoin.

Will see but right now, Im happy with the -1%  Grin

I  would agree on waiting on next gen gear with the "big boys".  It will be intresting once birfury, bitmain, and SP have some new chips what happens.

I think it will be great for people like me who mine as a hobby, we can pick up the older gear at way reduced costs.  Probably at that point you won't be able to give an S1 away, an S3 will be in the S1 price range, and S5 half of what they are today.  Makes that more efficient gear much more affordable to someone not looking to turn a profit.
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1002
Go Big or Go Home.....
March 21, 2015, 01:17:57 AM
C'mon -1.51-1.75..   Wink
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 20, 2015, 11:05:28 PM
The day is almost over:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    46,569,405,256 (-1.81%)
Adjust time:    After 265 Blocks, About 1.9 days

Price at around 260
full member
Activity: 209
Merit: 100
March 20, 2015, 10:35:50 PM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.

I still think the big guys are holding back from dropping 3 or 4 million on a new chip super farm.

Basically Bitfury made a lot of money and then shut down gear.
While they can make a .25 watt /gh machine
I think they are afraid to commit the 3-6 million need to make a 20-40ph farm at the current btc price level.

This is a good thing. I am hoping for 11-18 months between gear.

the s-1 was nov-dec 2013----------------------------- 2 watt gear
the s-3 was june- july 2014--------------------------- 0.8 watt gear
the s-5 was nov-dec   2014--------------------------- 0.5 watt gear

the s-6 or  s-7 has been mentioned for  later then june 2015 I read this  here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10826237


So say the s-6 comes out in July and is 0.38 or 0.4 watt gear
Then in sept the s-7 comes out at .3 watts
We are seeing a mature asic industry unfold.

This reminds me of the intel cpu's once sandy bridge arrived pc's are so good  the next two gen's pushed us into little mini pc's
Anyone with an i7 2600 cpu in a desktop has no need for an i7 4790 desktop.(90% true not 100%)

So to drive sales the pc industry is pushing tablets and mobile gear over desktops.

So if you have a .4 watt asic replace a .5 watt asic  what is your gain?
I do wonder how this plays out.

 I would not mind rocket to the moon on btc to 2000usd. It would wake everyone  up.

 I think we wander around in the 200-300 price slot and in the 44-49 diff range for months to come. I can live with that.


I agree, and in fact difficulty began to plateau even before the dramatic price drops in October and January. It really started in July, when double-digit increases stopped being the norm. There were exceptions when SP, Bitmain, or AM made some big deliveries, but other than that we've been pretty much flat.

And I doubt that there's much in the pipeline right now. SP has hinted at a new gen of chips, but their mantra is to be patient. It looks like Bitmain won't release a new chip until 3Q at the earliest, and AM from what I can tell is done or close to it. Unless there's a dramatic price increase, the days of double-digit difficulty increases are pretty much over. It would take over 33 Ph/s to be added to the network during the next difficulty period for a 10% increase.

Moreover, and I've been saying this for a while now, there's a finite supply of "cheap" electricity. There's a reason electricity costs what it does in most populated places. There's demand for it. As big farms move to remote locations for cheap power, the demand and cost will eventually go up as well. That's how markets tend to work.

That said, it's a good time for smaller miners, especially if the price recovers near-term. If we move back up to $500 by the summer, difficulty will be slow to catch up. It takes time to manufacture, and right now I don't think there's all that much in the pipeline. So if the price increases, difficulty will lag by at least a month or two.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 20, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.

I still think the big guys are holding back from dropping 3 or 4 million on a new chip super farm.

Basically Bitfury made a lot of money and then shut down gear.
While they can make a .25 watt /gh machine
I think they are afraid to commit the 3-6 million need to make a 20-40ph farm at the current btc price level.

This is a good thing. I am hoping for 11-18 months between gear.

the s-1 was nov-dec 2013----------------------------- 2 watt gear
the s-3 was june- july 2014--------------------------- 0.8 watt gear
the s-5 was nov-dec   2014--------------------------- 0.5 watt gear

the s-6 or  s-7 has been mentioned for  later then june 2015 I read this  here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10826237


So say the s-6 comes out in July and is 0.38 or 0.4 watt gear
Then in sept the s-7 comes out at .3 watts
We are seeing a mature asic industry unfold.

This reminds me of the intel cpu's once sandy bridge arrived pc's are so good  the next two gen's pushed us into little mini pc's
Anyone with an i7 2600 cpu in a desktop has no need for an i7 4790 desktop.(90% true not 100%)

So to drive sales the pc industry is pushing tablets and mobile gear over desktops.

So if you have a .4 watt asic replace a .5 watt asic  what is your gain?
I do wonder how this plays out.

 I would not mind rocket to the moon on btc to 2000usd. It would wake everyone  up.

 I think we wander around in the 200-300 price slot and in the 44-49 diff range for months to come. I can live with that.





Well said Philip like always.

Im pretty sure right now the company are waiting to see the next 2 or 3 difficulty jump to see if they want to invest more or not.
I will be more than happy if we can stay between 44 and 49. That will give us a break and use our miner a little bit more.
The last 2 years was a race to buy, mine, sell the newest miners.

As for the price, if we stay at this diff, I think we could see a stable grown. Less fluctuation will also help people to get in Bitcoin.

Will see but right now, Im happy with the -1%  Grin

I  would agree on waiting on next gen gear with the "big boys".  It will be intresting once birfury, bitmain, and SP have some new chips what happens.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
March 20, 2015, 04:44:22 PM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.

I still think the big guys are holding back from dropping 3 or 4 million on a new chip super farm.

Basically Bitfury made a lot of money and then shut down gear.
While they can make a .25 watt /gh machine
I think they are afraid to commit the 3-6 million need to make a 20-40ph farm at the current btc price level.

This is a good thing. I am hoping for 11-18 months between gear.

the s-1 was nov-dec 2013----------------------------- 2 watt gear
the s-3 was june- july 2014--------------------------- 0.8 watt gear
the s-5 was nov-dec   2014--------------------------- 0.5 watt gear

the s-6 or  s-7 has been mentioned for  later then june 2015 I read this  here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10826237


So say the s-6 comes out in July and is 0.38 or 0.4 watt gear
Then in sept the s-7 comes out at .3 watts
We are seeing a mature asic industry unfold.

This reminds me of the intel cpu's once sandy bridge arrived pc's are so good  the next two gen's pushed us into little mini pc's
Anyone with an i7 2600 cpu in a desktop has no need for an i7 4790 desktop.(90% true not 100%)

So to drive sales the pc industry is pushing tablets and mobile gear over desktops.

So if you have a .4 watt asic replace a .5 watt asic  what is your gain?
I do wonder how this plays out.

 I would not mind rocket to the moon on btc to 2000usd. It would wake everyone  up.

 I think we wander around in the 200-300 price slot and in the 44-49 diff range for months to come. I can live with that.





Well said Philip like always.

Im pretty sure right now the company are waiting to see the next 2 or 3 difficulty jump to see if they want to invest more or not.
I will be more than happy if we can stay between 44 and 49. That will give us a break and use our miner a little bit more.
The last 2 years was a race to buy, mine, sell the newest miners.

As for the price, if we stay at this diff, I think we could see a stable grown. Less fluctuation will also help people to get in Bitcoin.

Will see but right now, Im happy with the -1%  Grin
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
March 20, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.

I still think the big guys are holding back from dropping 3 or 4 million on a new chip super farm.

Basically Bitfury made a lot of money and then shut down gear.
While they can make a .25 watt /gh machine
I think they are afraid to commit the 3-6 million need to make a 20-40ph farm at the current btc price level.

This is a good thing. I am hoping for 11-18 months between gear.

the s-1 was nov-dec 2013----------------------------- 2 watt gear
the s-3 was june- july 2014--------------------------- 0.8 watt gear
the s-5 was nov-dec   2014--------------------------- 0.5 watt gear

the s-6 or  s-7 has been mentioned for  later then june 2015 I read this  here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10826237


So say the s-6 comes out in July and is 0.38 or 0.4 watt gear
Then in sept the s-7 comes out at .3 watts
We are seeing a mature asic industry unfold.

This reminds me of the intel cpu's once sandy bridge arrived pc's are so good  the next two gen's pushed us into little mini pc's
Anyone with an i7 2600 cpu in a desktop has no need for an i7 4790 desktop.(90% true not 100%)

So to drive sales the pc industry is pushing tablets and mobile gear over desktops.

So if you have a .4 watt asic replace a .5 watt asic  what is your gain?
I do wonder how this plays out.

 I would not mind rocket to the moon on btc to 2000usd. It would wake everyone  up.

 I think we wander around in the 200-300 price slot and in the 44-49 diff range for months to come. I can live with that.



legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 20, 2015, 02:24:04 PM
Interesting time in mining.  It looks like we lose around the difficulty we gained on Mar 8th.

I just hope BTC goes back to 300's in a reasonable timeframe.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
March 20, 2015, 11:58:16 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645

reads (-1.72%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  reads (-1.76%)


328 blocks to go

price is 255 to 262 usd


No one is really pushing truly new more efficient gear.

So we kind of stay in a stable clam area for the time being.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
March 20, 2015, 11:20:23 AM
The spreadsheet is saying -1.75%... come on, just .. need .. .01 more % ... Cheesy
alh
legendary
Activity: 1846
Merit: 1052
March 20, 2015, 10:30:59 AM
A small update from bitcoinwisdom:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty:    46,640,444,220 (-1.66%)
Adjust time:    After 337 Blocks, About 2.4 days
Hashrate(?):    331,044,027 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):    
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.8 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
   
Updated:    10:25 (4.2 minutes ago)

Looks like it's almost certain to be a difficulty decrease this time around.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 19, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
I wish BTC would drop like LTC difficulty.  Thought some in here might find intresting just as miners don't mean to go to off topic.

But:

Litecoin Difficulty:    40,766
Estimated Next Difficulty:    35,077 (-13.95%)
Adjust time:    After 24 Blocks, About 1.3 hours

LTC to be losing around 14 percent hash.  I just hope it's not hosting/data centers switching to BTC mining gear.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
March 19, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
...

Then again, we can speculate till we're blue in the face... who the hell really knows what will happen... Smiley


 That's why they call it a spec thread. We get to spec all we want plus we get a shot at a  free prize.

LOL
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