I got free electricity over here but with the coming spring it will come down to shutting some miners down. Whenever its 40F or higher, the GPU miners need to be powered off due to massive heat.
All of my miners are very inefficient. I got GPUs, KNC Jupiters, and some S3+.
The S3+ are my most efficient miners.
I didn't want to pull the trigger on any more efficient miners because they all seem overpriced at the moment. All the miners I got made ROI a while ago so everyday is a positive day. I don't think I can buy an S5 or SP20 and have to wait 6 months to get ROI. I really wish the prices were more fair when it came to pricing mining equipment.
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Summer is a pain for us miners. The free winter air is very nice to have. So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer. But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans.
Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking. I know that helped me on a few miners.
Unless you live in a desert like I do, then winter air is just as hot as summer air.
It was 90*F all weekend, my AC has been running since last month. Plus I pay $0.20/kwh and up. Good think I only mine as a hobby, not for profit.
yeah I am in NJ
Fall
Winter
Spring all at 13 cents a kwatt and with heat benefits say 10 cents a kwatt
Summer 16 cents a kwatt and with heat penalty say 18 cents a kwatt
Summer is a pain for us miners. The free winter air is very nice to have. So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer. But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans.
Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking. I know that helped me on a few miners.
Unless you live in a desert like I do, then winter air is just as hot as summer air.
It was 90*F all weekend, my AC has been running since last month. Plus I pay $0.20/kwh and up. Good think I only mine as a hobby, not for profit.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.
Even better info then you realize we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.
In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali. power is 25 cents. I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free. He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents. I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.
there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.
Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.
LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)
What hardware are you running? I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.
Summer is a pain for us miners. The free winter air is very nice to have. So far I think I'm down to a level I can keep all summer. But I am watching close to make sure I don't need any more fans.
Depending on the miner you might look into underclocking. I know that helped me on a few miners.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.
Even better info then you realize we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.
In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali. power is 25 cents. I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free. He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents. I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.
there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.
Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.
LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)
What hardware are you running? I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.
Even better info then you realize we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.
In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali. power is 25 cents. I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free. He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents. I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.
there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.
Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.
LOL you're not Dave Carlson Right (joking)
What hardware are you running? I know a diff. guy in your exact same situation with a full facility but NO capacity for other hardware that he has sitting on shelf.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.
Even better info then you realize we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.
In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali. power is 25 cents. I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free. He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents. I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.
there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.
Phil I am right with you. I was trying to find someone up in WA area to give miners to and split profit with but had no luck finding anyone I could trust.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
I read this a second time and lets say it is all variance . (+/-) 1 or 2 percent.
Even better info then you realize we can now spec is it variance or is it ddos or is simple btc price to diff ratio. or is it s-3's still make money at low power locations and people are shifting gear rather then buying gear.
In the s-3 case I live in Northern Cali. power is 25 cents. I ship 20 s-3's to a guy in washington state. I give 12 to him for free. And he hosts my other 8 for free. He makes money since his power is 3-4 cents. I make out since my s-3 's were worth zip in northern cali.
there is 50ph in s-3's they are tanks and they are keeping growth down as they more to low cost power spots and are done in a barter move like I describe above.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
Do you mine yourself? I find it a fun to spend a little time. I would not agree with thread having no value. I find it fun to speculate.
Sure we all could just wait till difficulty change and not guess. But that would not be much fun.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
Debbie Downer
This is a spec thread in the spec section. It is for fun more then any other thing.
It also provides a longer history since there have been more then 20 of them.
If you go back and read them all , my common theme has been diff will slow and level off.
I have mentioned that in a ton of the threads. So far I have been correct about the diff growth entering a new stage.
A lot of good ideas have popped up here and we have had some fun. Suchmoon has made things a lot more interesting.
Biggest surprise for me was the price tank after the sp20's and s-5 's came out. Price was over 400 in NOV and is now under 300.
Just usual trolling guys to keep you in perspective, analyzing block after block or even day after day has no value. This is not like checking factory output where any change has its reason, finding blocks is random process within some rules. There maybe absolutely no hashrate change behind +/-2% difficulty change, it's just the blocks finding probability.
Well one thing that the spreadsheet, nor bitcoinwisdom will take into account is the ddos attacks that appear (somewhat) to be over. If the attacks are generally over then we would have seen a temporary drop in the hashrate that using statistical analysis would not be able to pick up.
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
well the spreadsheet has real time number which is about -0.50 that is the actually number if we jump now.
It has future numbers at 3 and 5 days. Those numbers may be wrong due to the ddos attack. But the real number is for right now.
Looking good
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,514,987,511 (+0.18%)
Adjust time: After 960 Blocks, About 6.7 days
I personally think effect of DDOS is not huge on difficulty. It was surprising though how much it could effect a pool if you watched antpool during. Most miner's should have fail over pools. I'm sure lazyness caught some but majority should be fine.
Well one thing that the spreadsheet, nor bitcoinwisdom will take into account is the ddos attacks that appear (somewhat) to be over. If the attacks are generally over then we would have seen a temporary drop in the hashrate that using statistical analysis would not be able to pick up.
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
well the spreadsheet has real time number which is about -0.69 that is the actually number if we jump now.
It has future numbers at 3 and 5 days. Those numbers may be wrong due to the ddos attack. But the real number is for right now.
below it is -0.69% That is in 'real' time. The futures numbers for 3 days and for 5 days are the guess past on the trends up to now.
The google chart is like a horse race announcer and -0.69% is the horse in the lead at a little bit past the halfway point.
Well one thing that the spreadsheet, nor bitcoinwisdom will take into account is the ddos attacks that appear (somewhat) to be over. If the attacks are generally over then we would have seen a temporary drop in the hashrate that using statistical analysis would not be able to pick up.
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
I would guesstimate that the ddos attacks will cause the difficulty increase to be ~1% lower then it otherwise would be (or the decrease be 1% more) and the estimate for the next difficulty change to be off by ~0.5% until we are ~85% or so through the difficulty period
looks like we jumped up just a bit on the google real time chart.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645
-0.56% with price at 295 on coin base.
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+0.42%)
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,628,066,716 (+0.42%)
Adjust time: After 962 Blocks, About 6.7 days
Hashrate(?): 330,258,114 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 30.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated: 23:20 (55.0 seconds ago)
so -.5 to +.5 on the two predictors. we have 962 blocks left.
I heard new gear from bitmaintech.com is coming but zero proof . they did drop price down to 369 plus 47 to ship to the usa so 416 I think this slows sales a lot.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645
-0.56% with price at 295 on coin base.
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+0.42%)
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,628,066,716 (+0.42%)
Adjust time: After 962 Blocks, About 6.7 days
Hashrate(?): 330,258,114 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 30.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated: 23:20 (55.0 seconds ago)
so -.5 to +.5 on the two predictors. we have 962 blocks left.
I heard new gear from bitmaintech.com is coming but zero proof . they did drop price down to 369 plus 47 to ship to the usa so 416 I think this slows sales a lot.
hmm philp , such , : if the diff near 0.00% like 0.22% or so i won ?
No you have only 1 shot at winning 0%.
Someone has the above and someone has the below.
It pays double. It is 25x harder to win then picking a range.
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty shows (+0.69%) price is 280 1062 blocks left
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,752,580,038 (+0.69%)
Adjust time: After 1062 Blocks, About 7.4 days
Hashrate(?): 325,662,248 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.9 minutes
Updated: 7:15 (5.0 minutes ago)
these numbers still make money for me.
It will be very interesting to see what happens this summer.
I go to 16 cents in the summer.
It is possible I may be able to run these sp20's in the summer.
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,752,580,038 (+0.69%)
Adjust time: After 1062 Blocks, About 7.4 days
Hashrate(?): 325,662,248 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.9 minutes
Updated: 7:15 (5.0 minutes ago)
these numbers still make money for me.
It will be very interesting to see what happens this summer.
I go to 16 cents in the summer.
It is possible I may be able to run these sp20's in the summer.
hmm philp , such , : if the diff near 0.00% like 0.22% or so i won ?
real time google is -1.11 stop the contest now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645
Since a final list has not yet been made, I would consider guessing a difficulty decline of -2.51 to -2.75%
The whole DDOS issue is likely going to cause miners to effectively go offline that based on economics should not be offline
The whole DDOS issue is likely going to cause miners to effectively go offline that based on economics should not be offline
this may turn out to be the best pick yet
real time google is -0.98%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=204080645
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty is +0.78% price is 276 usd
Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,427,554,951
Estimated Next Difficulty: 47,796,950,794 (+0.78%)
Adjust time: After 1109 Blocks, About 7.7 days
Hashrate(?): 326,239,702 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.8 minutes
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