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legendary
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The idea isn't being patented but a new game with rules and anything else will be patented.
Also, your new invention should be unique and doesn't have any huge similar to the existing games.

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hero member
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I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.

I think it's possible. If it's completely new idea, new work of author it could be protected as intellectual property. I don't know the details about that gambling idea but all kinds of intellectual works can be protected. Maybe patent is not quite correct term but I think that is worth checking the possibilities how to protect this and under what conditions is possible.

I am not sure if this is really possible. There are already so many games around in casinos, non of them are really patented. So creating a hole new game now which is not a variation out of any existing game you might be able to patent it, but the chances are so unlucky. I would assume that any good lawyer will find some small similiarities which would allow others to copy your game.

My suggestion try not to protect your idea from others. Make sure you are the first one out there to actually do it. If you don't have a casino yourself yet, maybe try to get into a cooperation with an exisiting casino so they would provide you with a great platform and already a huge gambler base. Big advertisements would be the key in my opinion.
hero member
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since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

You need to start with the simplest. You must decide in which country or countries you want to have your intellectual property protected. Because different countries may have very different ways of registering intellectual property rights. This way you can get a more accurate answer.
sr. member
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To my knowledge in general there are several subjects that can be patented, namely technology, machinery and pharmacy.
Besides that cannot be patented, moreover ideas and concepts cannot be patented. Maybe I think the new gambling idea
you mean can not be patented, but to be more confident and not the wrong step first consultation with a lawyer is the
right step.
legendary
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You're not going to be able to patent it unless it is sufficiently novel, and you've got highly detailed technical descriptions of how the system would work, including the code that would make it run.

If it's just an idea, you've got absolutely no hope of even getting a trademark.

Though the rules for obtaining a patent vary by country, they're almost always quite stringent—especially if you want a universally recognized one. Here's the rules for getting a patent in the United States:

https://www.bitlaw.com/patent/requirements.html

"- The invention must be statutory (subject matter eligible)
- The invention must be new
- The invention must be useful
- The invention must be non-obvious"

If it doesn't meet these criteria, give up now.
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I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.

I think it's possible. If it's completely new idea, new work of author it could be protected as intellectual property. I don't know the details about that gambling idea but all kinds of intellectual works can be protected. Maybe patent is not quite correct term but I think that is worth checking the possibilities how to protect this and under what conditions is possible.
sr. member
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I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.
legendary
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since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.


Protecting it will not last long. There had been many patented products in the past that will just not used in the end all because of patent. Somehow the innovative thinking of entreprenuers will be able to discover the idea.

There is always going to be someone out there going to copy just about anything they can find. I have no idea about this fantasy-football but if you have a game run by code then perhaps registering it as opensource will be a better option for more people will be able to help improved it but will still recognize your work as well.
legendary
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?


Ideas are not patented. Its originality and the result of its use and applications, if.

So you must do it quickly before someone else comes up with it. But keep in mind that software patents are very limited.

Basically to technologically feasible ideas in an entertainment-oriented application, for example a game, they use brand protection, things like characters, names, create something called brand usage licenses, etc.

The "ideas" usually fall under something called intellectual property law. But still, there must be something to back it up, there must be something that indicates that you had that idea before anyone else.

Something you can do, but it is a major investment, register or license everything surrounding your idea with that game, even with the name, those things can get licenses, but I assure you it is not cheap, licenses can take you to the ruin and not make a profit, but they help you get use rights, because the law supports you in intellectual property rights. But this requires an administrative investment of time and money.

Remember also that licenses at a global level are even more expensive, all this gives you a vision that it is not how important or novel to have a new idea, but how much capital you have to execute it and make it profitable.

There are other ways, develop an APP, register a company that gives you more power to control the game and its profits ... but for the low average you must have at least $ 70,000 to $ 100,000.

If you trust your idea and it is really new, do not stop trying it, but one must also realize how much an idea is really feasible to have success.
legendary
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I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..
legendary
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since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe

Thank you so much mate Wink I take a quick look but it seems a very useful place to gather information .
Just for sake of curiosity, when you launched your site did you "protected" in a some way some aspect of your site/games/ or registered your trademark?


I did not do any trademark or patent cause IMO it was not worth the pain and money. Just register in the forum I gave you the link and ask your question there. I am sure you will get a lot of very good and helpful answers even you want it maybe only to be secured for europe.

good luck
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?


Well, patenting ideas have certain requirements. I don't know if those requirements change within different countries but there are three main requirements when you are applying for a Patent.

First, if the idea is unique or new in the current situation. Second, will it be for a greater good for certain communities? Third, is it available for mass adoption or development in future recommendations plus its marketability. This are the three requirements that were taught to us when we are applying for a patent and I guess it would also work for ideas like Gambling games as long as its new and unique.
legendary
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since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe

Thank you so much mate Wink I take a quick look but it seems a very useful place to gather information .
Just for sake of curiosity, when you launched your site did you "protected" in a some way some aspect of your site/games/ or registered your trademark?

....
because we are on internet role model business everyone could be using the same design or maybe game as from other casino.

I want avoid at most, such situation... at least for a while. Or try to protect the idea from other cheap clones Wink
Moreover this idea is more similar to a game like "fantasy football" it means that anyone can try to play with friends... even off line or in a different scenario/platform. This is why I ask for trademark protection.
Obviously playing with "Original" platform will be more easy and profitable!
legendary
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Just used information or term as "Bustabit" when some new casino who using their source code not making any permission or partnership with them. Then, they will mark that casino was not trusty at all. Can't really handle about these, because we are on internet role model business everyone could be using the same design or maybe game as from other casino.
legendary
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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe
hero member
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?


First you have to understand how patent right works , you have to check with the Government of your country then register your game or whatever you have thought about it , before anything you have to prove them that it's indeed different and worth the whole process.

Therefore you first have to design the idea and make sure you stay hidden and no one is involved with it since it's very easy for people to take your idea and label it as theirs.

You have to go to certified agencies in your own country .

But am not sure if you would be able to do it right now , since due to Pandemic most of the business are down , you have to wait , the process is long but it does have a lot of benefits for the long term .

You can even go to quick patent companies which actually register your patent for a price.

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However, industry experts estimate that obtaining a patent on a “simple” invention (like a paper clip or a coat hanger) can total anywhere from $5,000 to $7,000. A patent on a complicated piece of software may cost $15,000 or more.Aug 2, 2017
hero member
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Laws change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction so it is better that you consult a lawyer, however what is it the state of this idea you are talking about? If it is just an idea and you have not developed anything then it is unlikely you are going to get any kind of patent, however if you have developed code in order to make that idea a reality then you will be taken more seriously and you could get patents for certain aspects of your game, still make sure to consult a lawyer just to be sure about this.
hero member
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I am not good at this kind of regulation. But, should you patent a New Gambling game? Do you plan to make that kind of gaming?
Well, I directly browsed the information about this and  only found these following:
http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/article/can-you-patent-a-gambling-game-62628
https://patentyogi.com/american-inventor/patents-effective-online-gambling/

I do not know exactly whether the ways to patent the gambling game should be globally or locally in your country. You may also search for the information in your country whether it is legal or not, any law about it or not.
hero member
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Trademark and patent are completely two different things. But here you will need both. Patent for the idea and trademark for the name. This way you can protect your interest.

I will suggest you to get in touch with patent lawyers of your country. Just try to google with this keyword and you will receive plenty of them. They will help you to prepare your documentation. Please note, it usually takes 4-6 months of time to process your patent application.

Finally, always execute a NDA with the lawyer along with indemnity clause before you start expressing your ideas to them!

Hope this helps!

I agree! but I think sometimes it takes a year it depends on the amount of patented nearly similar to his idea and also if it has a unique name for it ( this is also very needed ), as long as it is very unique and he has all the documents needed, no need to worry about being patented for months, OP will get the patent certificate and the trademark name. Better to develop now, and there is some free sites to check the patent.
hero member
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As in the above quote one can go apply for patent with the respective bureau organised by every country with specific terms and conditions. I don't think it can be patented with the purpose of gambling. Maybe a game can be innovated and patented. This patented game can be further used into gambling.

I agreed, it can be copied by someone else and innovated some rules and changed the name of the game. Like for example soccer and lacrosse these two games have almost the same looks but have different rules. Also there are many more examples you can find out there. In this way, they don't have to worry about copy righted materials. they just need your idea for them to create something almost the same games.

Lacrosse



Soccer


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