Topic: New ID requirements for Gamblers in Australia (Read 447 times)

Since that was Austalian government new law regarding gambling, everyone should comply. We can see here that Australia is one of the country that really active in doing their best to implement a healthy gambling. KYC sucks but people need to understand that it's necessary as a part of regulation.

I found it hassle to have that new ID requirements but for the sake of cooperating with the government, I will comply on that if our country will have the same regulation in the future. As long as it doesn't need a tremendous and crazy process, that should be fine.

The children involvement into the gambling because purely to feel the thrill in the gambling game.The thrill giving factor was the attractive one in the gambling,So the children get into the gambling at their younger age using the id of their parents to play the game.Even though the gambling sites made the kyc compulsory,the children uses their parents kyc to play the game.Some children use their parents account to play the gambling.

These children will not think about the reputation of a casino because they just want to gamble and feel the thrill. But if they are experienced and know about the regulations and even KYC, they will look for a casino with a good gambling reputation. They can also identify those scam and reputable casinos so they can choose the right casino for them. And to verify their account they may ask for help or borrow an ID from an adult to verify their account. They will also deposit more later.

Age monitoring is a mere excuse that they are making, the actual reason behind all this is something else. They have recently said that the country is losing a few billion dollars every year in online gambling or such activities, and they will try to reduce that amount as much as possible, and the best way to do that is definitely to either tighten the regulations or increase restrictions on gamblers, or the final way of eradicating the problem is to completely ban online gambling.

There have been quite a few things Australia has been doing in regards to online gambling, first announcing that online gambling ads will be banned, and now announcing new ID verification for online gamblers, and very soon, they might get straight to the point and announce that online gambling is illegal within the country.

The fact that the government is fighting against preventing minors from gambling is certainly good, but this needs to be done thoughtfully and using a competent approach. Although particularly cunning users will be able to deceive the system by posing as another person and will successfully undergo the KYC procedure. The government needs to seek advice from people who have more knowledge in this matter. If they limit at their own discretion, there is a risk of destroying this area completely, which will entail shadow business and a decrease in tax revenues.

We need an Australian representative here. As it seems that gambling in Australia is in stone age. We already had here article about "complains about gambling ads", "offer to ban crypto cards usage in casinos". Now this ID requirement to prove that you are 18+. As if Australia and its government only recently discovered what gambling is and how this industry works. How this new system gonna work after all? 18 already - be my guest and spend all your money. Less than 18 - just wait a bit. Or, go online

This is going to fail. They can impose whatever regulations they want on physical casinos. However, doing so for online casinos will never work. If they harass the online sites beyond a certain limit, then they will just shift their headquarters from Australia to some other country. And then the government won't be able to do any sort of supervision even if Australian users gamble using this website. There needs to be a middle path, which is acceptable for both the parties than the government imposing whatever they want on the gambling sites.

I couldn't tell you what they're looking to achieve from it, but it does seem like a concerning development regardless.  I'm not sure what Australia and Canada are up to these days but they seem like they're trying to get an ever tightening grip on their societies.  I don't know enough about this to have an educated opinion though.  Hopefully it is a best case scenario and this is some sort of move to make gambling more accessible and widespread in the future.

True. It makes no sense. And If I am from Australia, why would I register to get a gambler's ID?
The rest of the world is even hiding their gambling activity or not allowing anyone to know how they spend their money, yet they expect a gambler to be a straight-up dude with a stick up his ass to register. Those gamblers will just walk away and find crypto casinos.

But I wonder if there is a benefit. People always want benefits and its not surprising to see people actually ask for this ID if they giveaway capital every month.  

It is not necessary to arrest a person in order to punish a person. Scenarios can be different - from a fine for parents (who are responsible for their child) to an obligation to attend lectures on the dangers of gambling or something like that and to report weekly to the police or to child supervision (in each country these organizations have a different name).
Another question is whether the casino will return the money if it was lost by a child who had no right to do so at all 

Hey everyone, I just registered and I have been given my ID, I'm now a certify gambler and the Australian government has officially allow me to gamble with my ID  , the government need to get the strap because is this really necessary. What happened to alternative funding of casinos. Virtually, all casinos that I know today all have integrated crypto in their gambling platforms, what happened to those alternatives if an underage decide to use this function, this is dead on arrival because alternative are even swift and fast than the credit cards.

Coming back to people who really want this, must a person have to go through this process because they want to clean underage gambling with credit cards? What happened to their citizens privacy, what happened to how they want to live their life without any intrude of another person or may be there is another motivation about this credit card of thing. It's more like a way to know gamblers that bet that are paying tax and the other ones that don't pay taxes.

What happen to people knowing you through gambling cards? Your parents or girlfriend isn't satisfy with you gambling but lowkey without their knowledge, you do it only for them to see your gambling card How do you even explain the situation? The answer to all the questions are not necessary, enter gambling through crypto and exit to crypto so don't have to explain later on.

I'm not a citizen of Australia and I've hardly ever read news coming from Australia, which is why it's difficult to know exactly what the scenario is that the Australian government is going through in relation to gambling that is forcing them to take these measures. , first was the ban on people using credit cards in casinos. something that from what I read was still a proposal, but the chances of such a law being approved were high because it was the consensus of the majority of legislators, now I see that they are putting rules that casinos must require ID before people put money in casino, that is, when entering the physical casino and creating an account in the case of an online casino

In my opinion, this rule should have already been put in place years ago, because in all casinos many years ago they already put a warning that it is forbidden for people under 18 to create an account and play at the casino, so how would casinos prevent this if They don't ask for ID? So, I think that in this part the Australian government is very correct, but the question I also ask myself:

If a minor takes the ID of their relative who is of legal age and is discovered by some bad luck, who will be punished in this case if the minor cannot be arrested or suffer any other sanction? I don't know what Australian laws are like, but in my country minors have immunity and cannot be arrested.

Underage gambling is and always has been nothing but an excuse for the government to introduce regulations which are completely useless and can be tricked by mere children. Its obviously coming from a place of pure politics rather than a true desire to stem the gambling habits and addictions of children. And lets be completely honest, how many children actually steal their parents or big brothers credit cards or ID's just to gamble? And how long can they keep it a secret? Those kinds of children do exist but they are the absolute minority, I would think. Its just not realistic.

What I think is happening is that Australian politicians are looking to gather brownie points for the next election. Thats how it works in any democratic country. Its a complete mess and everyone pretends that that is not what is happening.

It will be a tedious task for the government to implement new system of identification for gamblers, but perhaps they really want to monitor who are frequently gambling so they can make plans on how to organize the regulations and restrictions on gambling whether it may be online or physical casino establishment. Although it's much better if they will just have a national ID that has been synced with every transactions so they can still be traced without the need of new ID because at some point, it will just consume time and of course, budget that still belongs to the pocket of the taxpayers.

If the purpose is only for age monitoring and legality matters, national ID will work already alongside with other things they do or pay, it will be recorded.

Wow, Australia is doing exceptionally well. I like this attitude, know your customers before they deposit money instead of asking your customers for KYC documents when they win large amounts of money.
Their attitude truly shows that they care about the gambling addiction of their citizens because it's not only about age control, they also want to integrate cashless gaming to let people still get that gambling experience but without possible financial loss.

Didn't you read the article that you posted here? It's pretty obvious they want to solve the gambling addiction problem, lower the number of gamblers and reduce the availability of casinos among teens, as much as possible and their method will obviously work, unless someone has an adult that intentionally lets teen to gamble by verifying his/her account every time teen gambles.

So before this, there is no ID requirements for people who want to gamble in Australia?

It is probably a political play to mitigate attention from their previous announcement about banning credit cards from gambling.

For the other party gamblers, it can become fatal if they are not following whatever requirements because the casinos can hold the winning amount if the gambler fails to comply with the verification after the wins.

The Australian government is just every other government we have, that do initiate an engaging idea to benefit itself and not the large scale citizens, and can easily regulate and ban and restrict with the slightest ease.

Unless the citizens do not have a national identity card or work i.d cards to identify themselves in real life with, this new I.d requirement for gamblers all in the guise to specify the gamblers ages, or restrict gamblers is but a waste of budget and time.
Australia is way too urban to make gambling life difficult, mostly as it is surrounded by natural wonders, wide-open spaces, beaches, deserts, "The Bush", "The Outback". It's like a dream destination for many of us in other continents like myself. I do hope to gamble someday in Sydney but it would be bad if gambling is as restricted and limited as they are making it be.

Or, Australians might get offended on their government and instead gamble abroad, feeding their money to someone else economy. We have example of such totalitarianism - China. Where gambling is allowed only in Macau. That is why when being abroad, I see that casinos are always filled with significant amount of Asian looking gamblers. But the economy of China is different to Australian. While China can allow to survive without those extra budget income, Australia might (not claiming, but supposing) get some shortage.

They say that their country is losing billions of dollars in gambling every year and this is probably a try to reduce that amount and they are doing all these things to reduce gambling itself and not just reduce the things like minor gambling or anything. One more reason for extra verifications might be because they want to regulate online gambling so that they can tax players who manage to get big wins from gambling, they must have taxes on that, I guess.

All in all, they are eventually going to ban online gambling within the country after doing all these things, and then the only way for people from Australia to gamble will be land-based casinos and they are easily regulated by the authorities so there won't be any problems for them to collect taxes from them.

Australia has a long story on regulating content on the internet and also in their entertainment markets. It is one of the countries with most censure on videogames, for example. So the fact they now want to further restrict gambling is no surprise to me. I even recall reading a WikiLeaks article on how allegedly the Australian government censored internet webpages in a massive way, unbeknownst to their citizens and residents.

Sure, minors are supposed to stay away from casinos and gambling webs, but making the KYC process too complicated for everyone could negatively impact in the volume of casinos.

I don't even know who they plan to help preventing addiction through government restrictions.