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Quote from: pantheraio on June 08, 2018, 06:50:56 PM

The presence of new investors is very influential on the price of each coin. New investors can boost price increases and coins. This is because the presence of new investors makes the stock of the coins diminished in the market, and make the coins are increasingly rare to obtain.

Only if they come in big enough numbers to meaningfully change the price. If you have a thousand new investors, they're not going to be able to have a meaningful impact on Bitcoin when it has a multi-hundred billion dollar market cap. There's just not enough new money coming in at that point to move the needle. Additionally, the higher the Bitcoin price goes, the more people you need to come in in order to move the price. That ever-expanding base, and ever-expanding rate of growth, is not sustainable, and eventually it was mathematically certain that the price would eventually stumble, the only question was at what point. Seems now we know the answer was $19,000 before the rally ran out of steam. I wouldn't expect the mania to take us back there.

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Quote from: pantheraio on June 08, 2018, 06:50:56 PM

The presence of new investors is very influential on the price of each coin. New investors can boost price increases and coins. This is because the presence of new investors makes the stock of the coins diminished in the market, and make the coins are increasingly rare to obtain.

For sure each and every investors is really important to be a part of bitcoin and I think soon the price of bitcoin will be high, I am sure now a day we are living in age of digital currency where price rises with investment and acceptance so new investors are the reason behind gradually increasing price and increasing value of bitcoin, I hope this way in future price will keep on rising.

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The presence of new investors is very influential on the price of each coin. New investors can boost price increases and coins. This is because the presence of new investors makes the stock of the coins diminished in the market, and make the coins are increasingly rare to obtain.

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Yes you have a point. If there are less investors then the price of a particular crypto, let's say btc, because they are the one who is responsible for pumping up btc. And this scenario will get worse if many hodlers dump their coins at the same time.

Note, the numberof investors we are talking here are in big scale.

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I think there shouldn't be any link between no. of new investors & prices, because even if 1 investor is holding the tokens in very large amount, for example, more than 50% of total token supply then he can manipulate the market. He can place many sell orders in low price & others people who don't have patience will end up also placing their tokens on sell order on an exchange at a low price, thinking that price is decreasing & then might go in a loss if they don't sell now. And the same investor can also put many buy orders to manipulate the market.

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New investors may either contribute to the increase or decrease in bitcoin price in the following ways:
1. Getting in the crypto markets by buying at very high prices(not waiting for prices to stabilize or not buying the dips). This is when FOMO leads to the massive increase in crypto prices.
2. New investors usually cause the massive fall in crypto prices when there are FUDs and their inexperience makes them sell at low prices.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

It depends on the size of amount invested rather than the depending on investors. Though it still counts in for the value fluctuations, at last the amount the investors put in makes the price differ. As much as the coins are bought and are in circulation, the value of the coin grows up. When there is a less transaction, the value remains less and does not grow up which would at times attract more investors as the values of the coins remain less or do not attract investors. it depends.

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Quote from: Daseento on June 08, 2018, 05:04:55 PM

Not just new investors but new funds and that could come from old investors and subsequently increase in the market capitalisation. With new funds ( new investment), there should be a corresponding increase in the value of a coin. That's my opinion.

I agree with your opinion, indeed if there is a new investor or new fund there should be an increase in the value of a coin they invest.
because fluctuations in a price tend to supply and demand, can be said if the price of coins on the market depends on new and old investors but with new funds they spend.

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New investors will automatically improve the price fluctuation because they are the one can support crypto instead of old investors and also the prices depends on them.

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Not just new investors but new funds and that could come from old investors and subsequently increase in the market capitalisation. With new funds ( new investment), there should be a corresponding increase in the value of a coin. That's my opinion.

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I do not think that there is a connection between the price and new investors. Such a link is possible but in exceptional cases, when either a very large number of new investors or the size of the investment is very large.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

Yes, this is a true statement. Most of the new investors are jumping into the departing train, which was evident with the growth of bitcoin from $ 10,000 to $ 20,000. If there are no new investors, then the volatility will decrease.

Train always do come around back to pick some people at the end of the day anyway, but like you said, rather than even calling it a departed train, I would rather call it trying to jump into a moving train which was when a lot of people were busy joining FOMO.

No new investors or recurrent investors or real life usage, will not bring stability, at a point, it would just be more like having more supply than demand and we sure do know the implication of that anyway.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

Do not concern yourself with such questions we have no control about the number of investors in the market, so I think it is pointless to think about it, bitcoin is becoming more popular as time passes and this means that the number of investors over the long term is going up and not down so we will never know the answer to your question but if were to guess I think the market will fluctuate in the same way.

New investors or not, the prices will still keep fluctuating but how it is fluctuating is what matters which is downwards or upwards. In the absence of new investors, it is either we keep seeing real believers holding at some point after a downtrend, or we keep seeing supply increasing and then more of a downtrend.

I have never seen a point, where there really would not be a case where there would always be a new investor in a market with a lot of potentials and like you said, things like this are stuffs we should really not be concerning ourselves about.

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Mint bitcoins are also coming in the mining field. Those will need be sold so that demand could come up.
New investors plays that key into buying the new coins.
But there are also a few out there that managed to make profit out of trading. By doing that they could increase the number of bitcoin that they will hold. Again, it will be because of demand.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

Yes, this is a true statement. Most of the new investors are jumping into the departing train, which was evident with the growth of bitcoin from $ 10,000 to $ 20,000. If there are no new investors, then the volatility will decrease.

And the price of bitcoin remain more stronger if the new investors are the stronger investors of bitcoin. If the investors will not like to stay for longer time in bitcoin then the price will not get any good position while with those investors who know the future of bitcoin who are holding their investment in bitcoin for longer time then with them the marketcap increases and the price of it increases with a strong base.

It is not even about staying longer time in bitcoin or not, it is about bitcoin being perceived more than an investment but we should get to see real life usage. In that case, those who wish to hoard theirs will see a good reason for demand increasing and not just some speculative asset, and it is the idea of it being a speculative asset that has really surged the volatility as it is.

New investors are bound to always set in when they get to see the huge prospect, but even at that, we still have a lot of people who believe in this long term potential anyway.

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Quote from: bachus on May 30, 2018, 07:39:41 AM

New investors cause the market to be more alive and les svolative, also the ICOs will rise and prospher in the same time

If anything it is the opposite new investors bring more money to the market and they begin to invest in it in whatever they find attractive this in return makes all the existing investors aware of their presence and they begin to move trying to take advantage of the new money in the market, and if the amount of money is big we get something like what happened at the end of the previous year, so new investors create more volatility in my opinion.

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

I dont think so, price always determined by supply and demand. New investor is good for market but i think they can not change the price. If many holder in market and many buyer, the price will come up automatically

I agree that the price will always determined by supply and demand because new investors sometimes have a small amount of investments that didn't much affect the prices of it. But they are also contribute to make the price increase even it is a little changes happen they are also joined in the community that someday make the price high and help to increased its demand in the market.

i think for many new investors who are still in the introductory stage, because it is impossible to invest a lot of funds without knowing clearly the object of investment. but i think this is good for the future once they know clearly about cryptocurrency

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Quote from: brawdias on May 01, 2018, 06:52:22 PM

If we have less new investors, so the prices tend to fluctuate less? How much dependent of new investors the prices are ?

Depends on what kind investors. Micro investors do not affect the price at all, but huge amounts investors, called whales, can change price for a moment.

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Quote from: green_fish on May 29, 2018, 06:45:39 PM

It is a good thing for new investors to enter the market for cryptocurrencies. More and more people investing in cryptocurrencies will also affect the prices of cryptocurrencies!
The cryptocurrency is also affected by the relationship between supply and demand. Only a large amount of money can enter the market of cryptocurrencies, so that the price of cryptocurrencies can fluctuate significantly!

Always a good thing and it is normal to even see them in the long run. It is getting obvious already that the smart moneys and the institutions are already showing some interest and will definitely be looking forward to get in at a very lovely value and for that reason, I am sure, the price would be driven up more than it is already.

The support though is growing daily, the sentiments is changing positively, we are getting to see more interests by the day, regulation may take the norm of the day, but really would not affect much, and all these things will bring more improvement in price and how new investors keep perceiving the market.

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New investors cause the market to be more alive and les svolative, also the ICOs will rise and prospher in the same time

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