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August 18, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
I tried to stay positive for a long time, but if asking to be made whole is seen as a negative with AMT I guess that's how it has to be.  Where I don't see eye to eye is where they are looking to gain new customers when the old customers have not been properly compensated yet.

Thank You,

Mr. Park

Mr. Park,

We are trying our best, the BE200 its is a 2-3 day build to order miner, it is not stock. We still use the payment to produce the miner. Please post images of your miner when you receive it today.
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August 18, 2014, 12:39:27 PM
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August 18, 2014, 12:36:25 PM
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August 18, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
We only have crappy images. When the first shipments go out of BE200 we'll upload the images. Honestly what makes you think we were capable of developing firmware, com'n you bash us and our lack of skill sets everyday.  Stick to one argument.

Unfortunately (for you), distributing binary open source software without the source code is a copyright violation. The copyright holders will be notified.

Thanks for helping out Syke, bring on some more bullshit on one of the last companies trying to build miners. Your a hero man.
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 12:31:58 PM
Hi AMT!

By chance are you distributing any open source software in your machines?

Let's try again. Are you distributing open source software?

We only have crappy images. When the first shipments go out of BE200 we'll upload the images. Honestly what makes you think we were capable of developing firmware, com'n you bash us and our lack of skill sets everyday.  Stick to one argument.

I've stayed out of the fray for some time, so I'm not going to comment on all the other shit going on. But this one, I think I can say something constructive.

Disclaimer, I do NOT know that what I'm about to say is right, so feel free to correct me where I'm wrong.

It's my understanding that these are innosilicon/dragon miners. If that's the case, then the firmware should be the same or very similar to the dragon and the lightning asic offerings, in which case it's available for download. It's basically a slightly modified version of cgminer. If that's the case, you can get the source from lightning asic, or from several places on this very forum and modify it to suit you. It should also be possible to run the modules direct, without the onboard controller, if you have a spare computer. This is far more flexible than the web interface (that's not a dig at AMT, it's true of every brand I've seen. I run my gridseed and zeusminer direct without a controller, and I can add as many pools as I want, not just three or four as in most web interfaces).

My advice to hobby miners: Learn linux. I have over the last few months. I shied away from the linux crowd for many years because of the elitist attitude. Ignore the attitude and listen to what they say (other than the bragging and condescension). For gaming, Windows is king. For EVERYTHING else, linux is better. I use ubuntu 14.04 exclusively now. Windows 8.1 straight sucks, but even 7 and XP, which I always liked, do not perform as well on ANY task I do as my linux install ON THE SAME MACHINES. And it has the added flexibility of being able to modify absolutely everything. That's not always good. In my learning curve, I have completely hosed to the point of not being bootable 9 installations. But the fixes and information are available, and google is your friend for that. I can't see mining on a windows machine ever again. Or writing. Or watching movies. Or listening to music.

AMT, I'm very glad to see you making this effort. I frankly thought you would have vanished or declared bankruptcy by now, given how things went. You did well by me, but not by a very large percentage of your customers. It's nice to see you attempting to make it right.
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August 18, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
A1 1.25TH 2U rack mount Miner for $1350 + 2 day express shipping included. Shipping out every Wednesday or Friday.

A2 80MHS 2U rack mount Miner for $3000 + 2 day express shipping included. Shipping out every Wednesday or Friday.



AMT BE200 1Th 2U rack mount miner for $1,130 express DHL shipping included. - additional module option!



Deliveries for orders placed before the Tuesday 19th can be shipped on Friday the 22nd. This is a 3 day build to order product. We receive your funds, we assemble your miner, we ship. We are doing 2 small SMT runs a week on Tuesday and Thursday each week. Runs are based on orders which come in, but we will run none the less. So the SMT run on Tuesday has the boards back by Wednesday assembly and testing is on Thursday and shipping is on friday. Now you understand the business model. We will leave a disclaimer for any hiccups because sometimes there are hiccups, if we do not ship within 5 days from the date your payment has been received we'll refund your money. Most likely,depending on which day you pay, we'll ship with in 2-3 days. The best days to pay are Monday and Wednesday in order to work your order into the SMT order process.


2U Rack mount BE200 (4 Modules 230Ghs - 250ghs each) with PSU sells for $1,130 Express 2 Day DHL shipping included. Option to include a 5th module for an additional $300. Additional modules can be sold and shipped separately to clients which have ordered the unit with 3 or 4 modules.  If you want to try 4 modules before you purchase the 5th that's what we're getting at. This also means that we need to increase the PSU from a 1000 watt psu to a 1300 watt psu.  Shipping price stays the with 5 modules. Additional shipping would be charged for the 5th modules if purchased separate, but would be something like $40-50 bucks express, haven't checked that yet. We'll try and include that in the additional module price.


2U BE200 (4 Modules 230Ghs - 250ghs each) with PSU sells for $1,130 Express 2 Day DHL shipping included.

WRITE TO SALES(at)ADVANCEDMINERS(dot)COM FOR MORE DETAILS.
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August 18, 2014, 12:30:44 PM
There are people who talk about racist and anti-semitic things on this board, I feel that is horrible and those comments should always be deleted. I don't think what I am saying is unreasonable or offensive, so please do not delete my post.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



Stop using big fonts. And if we dont keep designing and selling hardware than we'll go out of business and no one could receive MPP. SUPPORT AMT BECAUSE AMT IS TRYING TO DELIVER IT TO YOU.



I feel it is better to use the money to refund the original users, then to sell it to new clients.  I think they money made on the used machines is going to go back to AMT to make more hardware. I am not sure how this helps me. I didn't know there was a new rule about fonts, I apologize and will only be using font number 12 from now on.

We feel its better to stay in business and settle with everyone instead of refunding some and screwing others. That's our feeling.
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August 18, 2014, 12:29:47 PM

I do not think it is ethical to be designing, building and selling more Bitcoin mining machines when the first customers MPP has not been met yet.  Most of us paid $6,000 and will only get $1,500 (in terms of your own pricing) of that back in the form of hardware. (note: I still have not got mine yet). You said you had 50 Peta hash of cloud hashing, and access to all this new hardware. Another idea would be to put all that hardware in a colocation, or use the cloud hashing to make a wallet that collects all BTC from those operations and distributes it to the group until MPP is met. The MPP was a clear contract written on the website and part of the garentee, I hope you will continue to stand behind what you originally offered and send people what they paid for $6,000 in hardware. I cannot send good money after bad, since I have not met my return on the original investment. Please do not delete this message, it is my opinion and I would like to discuss it openly here in a civilized manner.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



You have cloud hashing in the moment. Your miner should show up today. Thanks.

Hey, how come he has cloud hashing?  What about me?  

Ok we'll see what we have available but everything is taken. Some clients will receive their miners today and we'll give you one of their cloud hashing rigs maybe. But Carlos you've been a pretty big pain on quite a few occasions,  but recently you've been nicer and thats been recognized.
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August 18, 2014, 12:27:08 PM
(reposted in regular font)

I do not think it is ethical to be designing, building and selling more Bitcoin mining machines when the first customers MPP has not been met yet.  Most of us paid $6,000 and will only get $1,500 (in terms of your own pricing) of that back in the form of hardware. (note: I still have not got mine yet). You said you had 50 Peta hash of cloud hashing, and access to all this new hardware. Another idea would be to put all that hardware in a colocation, or use the cloud hashing to make a wallet that collects all BTC from those operations and distributes it to the group until MPP is met. The MPP was a clear contract written on the website and part of the garentee, I hope you will continue to stand behind what you originally offered and send people what they paid for $6,000 in hardware. I cannot send good money after bad, since I have not met my return on the original investment. Please do not delete this message, it is my opinion and I would like to discuss it openly here in a civilized manner.

Thank You,

Mr. Park
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
There are people who talk about racist and anti-semitic things on this board, I feel that is horrible and those comments should always be deleted. I don't think what I am saying is unreasonable or offensive, so please do not delete my post.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



Stop using big fonts. And if we dont keep designing and selling hardware than we'll go out of business and no one could receive MPP. SUPPORT AMT BECAUSE AMT IS TRYING TO DELIVER IT TO YOU.



I feel it is better to use the money to refund the original users, then to sell it to new clients.  I think they money made on the used machines is going to go back to AMT to make more hardware. I am not sure how this helps me. I didn't know there was a new rule about fonts, I apologize and will only be using font number 12 from now on.
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August 18, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
AMT, I would have bought from you 3 times in the last 10 months but you keep changing your payment acceptance policy. You say you accept paypal and credit card on your website and/or your fire sale but then say you only want BTC. You haven't earned my trust enough to handover BTC. Other companies accept these payment forms and I have used them and now have trust enough to know, When I pay with BTC, they will follow through.

Pay via paypal, we said we can send you a paypal email receipt. We're just going to add 3% for charges we incur, we're working on a 7% margin with those prices and you know it. And with our luck it will most likely get sucked up by some inflated cost for something anyway.
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August 18, 2014, 12:21:35 PM

I do not think it is ethical to be designing, building and selling more Bitcoin mining machines when the first customers MPP has not been met yet.  Most of us paid $6,000 and will only get $1,500 (in terms of your own pricing) of that back in the form of hardware. (note: I still have not got mine yet). You said you had 50 Peta hash of cloud hashing, and access to all this new hardware. Another idea would be to put all that hardware in a colocation, or use the cloud hashing to make a wallet that collects all BTC from those operations and distributes it to the group until MPP is met. The MPP was a clear contract written on the website and part of the garentee, I hope you will continue to stand behind what you originally offered and send people what they paid for $6,000 in hardware. I cannot send good money after bad, since I have not met my return on the original investment. Please do not delete this message, it is my opinion and I would like to discuss it openly here in a civilized manner.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



You have cloud hashing in the moment. Your miner should show up today. Thanks.

Hey, how come he has cloud hashing?  What about me?  
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 12:21:14 PM
We only have crappy images. When the first shipments go out of BE200 we'll upload the images. Honestly what makes you think we were capable of developing firmware, com'n you bash us and our lack of skill sets everyday.  Stick to one argument.

Unfortunately (for you), distributing binary open source software without the source code is a copyright violation. The copyright holders will be notified.
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 12:18:29 PM
Hi AMT!

By chance are you distributing any open source software in your machines?

Let's try again. Are you distributing open source software?

We only have crappy images. When the first shipments go out of BE200 we'll upload the images. Honestly what makes you think we were capable of developing firmware, com'n you bash us and our lack of skill sets everyday.  Stick to one argument.
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
There are people who talk about racist and anti-semitic things on this board, I feel that is horrible and those comments should always be deleted. I don't think what I am saying is unreasonable or offensive, so please do not delete my post.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



Stop using big fonts. And if we dont keep designing and selling hardware than we'll go out of business and no one could receive MPP. SUPPORT AMT BECAUSE AMT IS TRYING TO DELIVER IT TO YOU.

legendary
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August 18, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
Hi AMT!

By chance are you distributing any open source software in your machines?

Let's try again. Are you distributing open source software?
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 12:13:37 PM

I do not think it is ethical to be designing, building and selling more Bitcoin mining machines when the first customers MPP has not been met yet.  Most of us paid $6,000 and will only get $1,500 (in terms of your own pricing) of that back in the form of hardware. (note: I still have not got mine yet). You said you had 50 Peta hash of cloud hashing, and access to all this new hardware. Another idea would be to put all that hardware in a colocation, or use the cloud hashing to make a wallet that collects all BTC from those operations and distributes it to the group until MPP is met. The MPP was a clear contract written on the website and part of the garentee, I hope you will continue to stand behind what you originally offered and send people what they paid for $6,000 in hardware. I cannot send good money after bad, since I have not met my return on the original investment. Please do not delete this message, it is my opinion and I would like to discuss it openly here in a civilized manner.

Thank You,

Mr. Park



You have cloud hashing in the moment. Your miner should show up today. Thanks.
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August 18, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
AMT, I would have bought from you 3 times in the last 10 months but you keep changing your payment acceptance policy. You say you accept paypal and credit card on your website and/or your fire sale but then say you only want BTC. You haven't earned my trust enough to handover BTC. Other companies accept these payment forms and I have used them and now have trust enough to know, When I pay with BTC, they will follow through.
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August 18, 2014, 10:47:34 AM
I am not pointing fingers at anyone, it was mentioned by others. I just noticed that post that were not offensive were also getting deleted. It was not my intent to offend anyone.

Thank You,

Mr. Park
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 10:11:38 AM
There are people who talk about racist and anti-semitic things on this board, I feel that is horrible and those comments should always be deleted. I don't think what I am saying is unreasonable or offensive, so please do not delete my post.

Thank You,

Mr. Park

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