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legendary
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Actually similar thing happened in most casino where the support agent answer something which is not the same as what written in the ToS page.
Most cases usually because the casinos use 3rd party live support which means that the support agents do not know all things but most of them usually use common senses or common thing they know based on their own experience.
The other possible case is because the live support agents (although it is internal staff), they are not well trained or they are still new as support agent.
When it comes to such verification procedure, support agent can only say an estimation because they are not the one who do the verification process.
I used to be a customer support staff and I understand work line in customer support. Human resource for customer support can be from internal source or outsource and outsourced customer support staffs will lack of many knowledge about the platform.

The company surely will have training for outsourced staffs (usually work as part time staffs), but many times outsourced staffs will have to pass users' question to internal direct line in order to get answer from internal staffs. This procedure can cause delay in response firstly, and possibly can cause bias in information used to answer users.

Difference between answer and ToS can be from lack of real time cooperation between different teams in a company, if ToS is updated recently.
legendary
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Their ToS states that verification may take up to 7 working days to be completed. This doesn't mean it will take exactly 7 days. It may be completed in one day or even few hours.
However, you are right, the support agent shouldn't have made that claim and should have repeated what's on their ToS.
I don't want to make the same mistake as the support agent but unless they find something suspicious about your account/bets then I don't see any reason why the verification process should take more than a day.

Actually similar thing happened in most casino where the support agent answer something which is not the same as what written in the ToS page.
Most cases usually because the casinos use 3rd party live support which means that the support agents do not know all things but most of them usually use common senses or common thing they know based on their own experience.
The other possible case is because the live support agents (although it is internal staff), they are not well trained or they are still new as support agent.
When it comes to such verification procedure, support agent can only say an estimation because they are not the one who do the verification process.
legendary
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Their ToS states that verification may take up to 7 working days to be completed. This doesn't mean it will take exactly 7 days. It may be completed in one day or even few hours.
However, you are right, the support agent shouldn't have made that claim and should have repeated what's on their ToS.
I don't want to make the same mistake as the support agent but unless they find something suspicious about your account/bets then I don't see any reason why the verification process should take more than a day.
legendary
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Hi all. I ask all participants of this forum to help me. I registered at this casino on June 29. Before registering, I wrote to support asking if I could initially pass verification, to which support replied that verification was not required at their casino, and if required, verification would be completed within 24 hours. I decided to register and made a deposit using a crypto wallet. I made several bets and my balance grew. I made my first conclusion. I got it approved within 10 minutes. I liked it. I decided to continue playing. After several hours of playing, I decided to withdraw the rest of the money. But my request was not approved. I was asked to verify my account. I sent them the photo id and a selfie with him immediately. In the chat they wrote to me that according to their rules, verification can last up to seven working days. And then I was surprised, because in the casino rules there is no mention of seven working days; the support service did not tell me then that verification could last more than seven days. In order to speed up verification, I asked them to make an online call where I would show all the documents, but they refused. I can attach screenshots of the correspondence where the employee refuses to provide a link to a specific point in the rules where seven working days are indicated. This issue worries me greatly, so if there are no specific verification deadlines, then 7 days can be increased. If I had known about the number of days, I would not have registered there.
In the support the staffs are not always well trained. I have seen these type of claims before and saw problems too. It's always better to read the terms and conditions properly which we do not do unfortunately. Jawhead999 already posted a part of the terms. I will suggest to follow their terms and wait for them to investigate your matter. Good luck to you.
hero member
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Hi all. I ask all participants of this forum to help me. I registered at this casino on June 29. Before registering, I wrote to support asking if I could initially pass verification, to which support replied that verification was not required at their casino, and if required, verification would be completed within 24 hours..

Can you provide screenshots which support stated that they will verify your account within 24hrs? As shared by @jawhead, The casino ToS shows that it was 7 working days max.

You can use the support chat as reconsideration to speed up your verification progress since you based on that words. You should check the ToS for yourself to assure that support word is matched to their ToS since you can check whether they updated their ToS or not after you made the deposit.

This is a good learning experience for you to rely always on the ToS rather than asking the support solely since they sometimes provide information that doesn’t match in ToS.
legendary
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Hi all. I ask all participants of this forum to help me. I registered at this casino on June 29. Before registering, I wrote to support asking if I could initially pass verification, to which support replied that verification was not required at their casino, and if required, verification would be completed within 24 hours. I decided to register and made a deposit using a crypto wallet. I made several bets and my balance grew. I made my first conclusion. I got it approved within 10 minutes. I liked it. I decided to continue playing. After several hours of playing, I decided to withdraw the rest of the money. But my request was not approved. I was asked to verify my account. I sent them the photo id and a selfie with him immediately. In the chat they wrote to me that according to their rules, verification can last up to seven working days. And then I was surprised, because in the casino rules there is no mention of seven working days; the support service did not tell me then that verification could last more than seven days. In order to speed up verification, I asked them to make an online call where I would show all the documents, but they refused. I can attach screenshots of the correspondence where the employee refuses to provide a link to a specific point in the rules where seven working days are indicated. This issue worries me greatly, so if there are no specific verification deadlines, then 7 days can be increased. If I had known about the number of days, I would not have registered there.
There you go.

21. KYC Policy of Rainbet Rainbet.com reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Rainbet.com reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined.The verification process may take up to 7 business days to be concluded. Failure or denial to pass the identity check will result in confiscation of winnings and refund of the last deposit. During this process, the user will have to input some basic details about themselves and then upload: A copy of Government Issued Photo ID (in some cases front and back depending on the doc) A selfie of themselves holding the ID doc A bank statement/Utility Bill Once uploaded, the user will get a “Temporarily Approved” Status and the documents will now be on our side, and the “KYC Team” will have 24hrs to go over them and email the user about the outcome: Approval Rejection More information needed – No change in Status When the user is on “Temporarily Approved” Status then: They cannot deposit more than EUR 500 in aggregate total during this time. They cannot complete any withdrawal Guideline for the “KYC Process” Proof of ID Signature If there Country is not a Restricted Country: United States of America and its territories, France and its territories, Netherlands and its territories and countries that form the Kingdom of Netherlands including Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, Saba, Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten, Australia and its territories, Austria, Germany, United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Spain. Full Name matches client’s name Document does not expire in the next 3 months Owner is over 18 years of age Proof of Residence Bank Statement or Utility Bill Country is not a Restricted Country: United States of America and its territories, France and its territories, Netherlands and its territories and countries that form the Kingdom of Netherlands including Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, Saba, Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten, Australia and its territories, Austria, United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Germany, Spain, and Cyprus. Full Name matches client’s name and is same as in proof of ID Date of Issue: In the last 3 months Selfie with ID Holder is the same as in the ID document above ID document is the same as in. Make sure photo/ID number is the same Notes on the “KYC Process” When the KYC process is unsuccessful then the reason is documented and a support ticket is created in the system. The ticket number along with an explanation is communicated back to the user. Once all proper documents are in our possession then the account gets approved. “Other AML measures” If a user has not passed KYC then they cannot make additional deposits or withdrawals of any amount. Funds cannot be transferred from your Rainbet Account to the Rainbet Account of another Player. If a user has passed the KYC process successfully the account is reinstated ##

Since today is Saturday, they might not count it as their business days because business days mostly from Monday to Friday. So, you might need to wait until 9 July or 11 days more. I see that the @OP last active was last week, hopefully they might respond your complaint, all you can do is waiting...
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Edit: It appears there are resolution problems in uploading the image, this is being worked on

Hi all. I ask all participants of this forum to help me. I registered at this casino on June 29. Before registering, I wrote to support asking if I could initially pass verification, to which support replied that verification was not required at their casino, and if required, verification would be completed within 24 hours. I decided to register and made a deposit using a crypto wallet. I made several bets and my balance grew. I made my first conclusion. I got it approved within 10 minutes. I liked it. I decided to continue playing. After several hours of playing, I decided to withdraw the rest of the money. But my request was not approved. I was asked to verify my account. I sent them the photo id and a selfie with him immediately. In the chat they wrote to me that according to their rules, verification can last up to seven working days. And then I was surprised, because in the casino rules there is no mention of seven working days; the support service did not tell me then that verification could last more than seven days. In order to speed up verification, I asked them to make an online call where I would show all the documents, but they refused. I can attach screenshots of the correspondence where the employee refuses to provide a link to a specific point in the rules where seven working days are indicated. This issue worries me greatly, so if there are no specific verification deadlines, then 7 days can be increased. If I had known about the number of days, I would not have registered there.
hero member
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What I can see, there is a lot of differences in the sportsbook. However, has anyone tried this site and is it legit?
I haven't played here which is why I can't say for sure whether it's legit or not. They are relatively new which is why it's better to wait for a while before investing big amounts here though you can go ahead with investing small amounts currently.

Is the KYC hassle-free or are they going to want video-KYC's and source of funds once you want to withdraw your winnings?
It's way too early to know the answer to this query. Keep checking this thread regularly to learn the answer to this query yourself.
jr. member
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same script / template as other tons of casinos, i suggest to invest some in a unique design, otherwise, your site looks like a clone of many many others


Name some?

What I can see, there is a lot of differences in the sportsbook. However, has anyone tried this site and is it legit?

Is the KYC hassle-free or are they going to want video-KYC's and source of funds once you want to withdraw your winnings?
sr. member
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In my opinion, Rainbet's web appearance is cool. It's no different from the appearance of other gambling sites I've seen.
This makes it easy for players to browse the site in search of the type of game they want to play.
Regarding rainbet originals, I see that there are five types of games available, namely Cases, Crash, Dice, Plinko and Roulette. Next to it there will be another one, but it's still coming soon.
Regarding KYC, how? Does rainbet require KYC for every player?
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An upcoming initiative we're planning on - slated for development in Q1, the integration of the Bitcoin Lightning Network. In the meantime, during periods of Bitcoin network congestion, we recommend using alternatives such as Litecoin for your withdrawals and deposits.
It's good to know that your team is trying to integrate Bitcoin lightning network despite its low popularity which goes to show how serious ya'll are about your site. Also, I am glad to know that other popular crypto like LTC are available for deposits and withdrawals.

Am looking forward to Bitcoin LN implementation in the near future.
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22 bucks? That's messed up especially for a new site like this one. This is becoming a problem with many crypto gambling sites these days primarily due to ordinals and other congestion crap driving up BTC TX fees.

Also, I couldn't find much information regarding whether they provide crypto like LTC etc as payment methods which could resolve this issue.
You raise a valid concern though the fees are not within our control and they're common with most online casinos. An upcoming initiative we're planning on - slated for development in Q1, the integration of the Bitcoin Lightning Network. In the meantime, during periods of Bitcoin network congestion, we recommend using alternatives such as Litecoin for your withdrawals and deposits.
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On the above image, we can see that the minimum withdrawal is $15, not $10 as what they write in the terms page and the withdrawal fee is $22.30.
I guess they are using dynamic withdrawal fee but I think $22 is a too expensive, at the time I write this the best suggested fee is 156satoshi/vB (cost no more than $10).
22 bucks? That's messed up especially for a new site like this one. This is becoming a problem with many crypto gambling sites these days primarily due to ordinals and other congestion crap driving up BTC TX fees.

Also, I couldn't find much information regarding whether they provide crypto like LTC etc as payment methods which could resolve this issue.
legendary
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  • Withdrawal: Min is $10, no max.

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8. Withdrawal of Funds

8.1. You may withdraw any cleared funds held in your player account by submitting a withdrawal request in accordance with our withdrawal conditions. The minimum withdrawal amount per transaction is $10 (or equivalent in other currency) with the exception of an account closure in which case you may withdraw the full balance.

This information in terms page is not the same as the information on the withdrawal page (on the account).
I created an account to check and this is what I found:



On the above image, we can see that the minimum withdrawal is $15, not $10 as what they write in the terms page and the withdrawal fee is $22.30.
I guess they are using dynamic withdrawal fee but I think $22 is a too expensive, at the time I write this the best suggested fee is 156satoshi/vB (cost no more than $10).
They need to fix the information about the minimum withdrawal amount, 2 different information is not that good although the difference is small amount only.
They also need to write about their withdrawal fee system, whether it is fixed or dynamic.
legendary
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Also, I couldn't find an FAQ section answering important queries like minimum deposit, minimum withdrawal etc.
I agree that the team should consider to deploy their FAQs page for guests and users.

Currently they have Terms and conditions page but users will have to search for finding terms about Deposits & Withdrawals.
  • Deposit: No min, no max.
  • Withdrawal: Min is $10, no max.

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7. Deposit of Funds

7.1. All deposits should be made from an account or payment system or credit card that is registered in your own name, and any deposits made in any other currency will be converted using the daily exchange rate obtained from oanda.com, or at our own bank's or our payment processor’s prevailing rate of exchange following which your Account will be deposited accordingly. Note that some payment systems may apply additional currency exchange fees which will be deducted from the sum of your deposit.

7.2. Fees and charges may apply to customer deposits and withdrawals, which can be found on the Website. In most cases we absorb transaction fees for deposits to your Rainbet.com Account. You are responsible for your own bank charges that you may incur due to depositing funds with us.

7.3. Company is not a financial institution and uses a third party electronic payment processors to process credit and debit card deposits; they are not processed directly by us. If you deposit funds by either a credit card or a debit card, your Account will only be credited if we receive an approval and authorization code from the payment issuing institution. If your card issuer gives no such authorization, your Account will not be credited with those funds.

7.4. You agree to fully pay any and all payments and charges due to us or to payment providers in connection with your use of the Service. You further agree not to make any charge-backs or renounce or cancel or otherwise reverse any of your deposits, and in any such event you will refund and compensate us for such unpaid deposits including any expenses incurred by us in the process of collecting your deposit, and you agree that any winnings from wagers utilizing those charged back funds will be forfeited. You acknowledge and agree that your player account is not a bank account and is therefore not guaranteed, insured or otherwise protected by any deposit or banking insurance system or by any other similar insurance system of any other jurisdiction, including but not limited to your local jurisdiction. Furthermore, the player account does not bear interest on any of the funds held in it.

7.5. If you decide to accept any of our promotional or bonus offer by entering a bonus code during deposit, you agree to the Terms of Bonuses and terms of each specific bonus.

7.6. Funds originating from criminal and/or illegal and/or unauthorized activities must not be deposited with us.

7.7. If you deposit using your credit card, it is recommended that you retain a copy of Transaction Records and a copy of these Terms.

7.8. Internet Gambling may be illegal in the jurisdiction in which you are located; if so, you are not authorized to use your payment card to deposit on this site. It is your responsibility to know the laws concerning online gambling in your country of domicile.

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8. Withdrawal of Funds

8.1. You may withdraw any cleared funds held in your player account by submitting a withdrawal request in accordance with our withdrawal conditions. The minimum withdrawal amount per transaction is $10 (or equivalent in other currency) with the exception of an account closure in which case you may withdraw the full balance.

8.2. There are no withdrawal commissions if you roll over (wager) the deposit at least 1 time. If you opt for one of the promotions on offer, you'll be required to place a wager that is twice the usual amount.

8.3. We reserve the right to request photo ID, address confirmation or perform additional verification procedures (request your selfie, arrange a verification call etc.) for the purpose of identity verification prior to granting any withdrawals from your Account. We also reserve our rights to perform identity verification at any time during the lifetime of your relationship with us.

8.4. All withdrawals must be made to the original debit, credit card, bank account, method of payment used to make the payment to your Account. We may, and always at our own discretion, allow you to withdraw to a payment method from which your original deposit did not originate. This will always be subject to additional security checks.

8.5. Should you wish to withdraw funds but your account is either inaccessible, dormant, locked or closed, please contact our Customer Service Department.

8.6. Please note that we cannot guarantee successful processing of withdrawals or refunds in the event if you breach the Restricted use policy stated in Clauses 3.3 and 4.

8.7. All crypto deposits will be subject to a 1x wager lock and all Runescape gold deposits will be subject to a 2x wager lock.

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Bad first impression!
They can improve it.
hero member
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The ANN presentation is decent though the site itself needs a lot of work because some stuff didn't load properly due to some network error even though I refreshed the entire site several times.

Also, I couldn't find an FAQ section answering important queries like minimum deposit, minimum withdrawal etc. Bad first impression!
copper member
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I am too getting the same block message. I am not from a restricted country, still getting the same message. Tried checking your website using a VPN and I got access after Cloudflare auto verification. I think you need to check your configuration on Cloudflare, as a new casino you need to fix this issue asap as it does not create a good impression. BTW, Welcome to the forum!
Hey elevates, I see you're having trouble accessing our website and are being blocked by Cloudflare. We apologize for the inconvenience. It is an issue we are aware of and are actively addressing. Due to being heavily targeted by DDoS attacks recently, the measures we implemented are affecting legitimate players - which shouldn't be happening. I've reached out and sent you a private messag looking to assist you further.

Looks like the problem appears when we are trying to access Rainbet by using the subdomain 'www'. Cloudflare isn't blocking me when I'm trying to access your site without using the 'www.' before the domain name. The hyperlink in your main post contains the subdomain in it. Perhaps, everyone is getting the block message from Cloudflare whoever trying to access through that link. I can see a discussion about similar thing on Cloudflare community, where the source of the problem was HubSpot connection.

BTW, it doesn't look good as you have posted two big images in the reserve post in this thread. Reserve posts should be used for change log and to give updates about the bonuses.
Hey Mahdirakib, appreciate you taking the time to try to help us out - it is appreciated. I am reaching out and sending you a private message to assist you further.

Side note: Images in the reserved posts were accidentally left there and they are now gone. Thank you again!

I just visited your site, but it won't open, I just wanted to take a look and try some games (demo) if you have one, why is your site down? or is my country blocked?
Hey there - reaching out and sending a private message to assist you further!
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In your Ann image you used https://www.rainbet.com but in your signature you have https://rainbet.com/ without the “www.” When I tried accessing your site with your signature it worked perfectly but when I added “www” I was blocked by cloudfare.

I’d urge anyone reading this post to take a few seconds and click on both links to see if you noticed any difference or if it just happened coincidentally.


Edit:

I just tried it couple of times and it didn’t show again which means it was just a coincidence.
They probably corrected the issue. It works all fine now. I think I saw such an issue some months back with a certain website. adding a "www" would mess things up until they corrected it.



same script / template as other tons of casinos, i suggest to invest some in a unique design, otherwise, your site looks like a clone of many many others
Can you suggest an example of a unique script then? It could be helpful to them.
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But it's clear that still need help from a specialized manager who can provide you with better solutions to clearly display images. A bitcointalk manager would help you spread the space about Rainbet by running promotional campaigns like seasonal contests, review campaign, and signature campaign.

Op don't get me wrong! you are doing well. Although hiring a manager would give Rainbet a help-hand to be at the level of aspirations of the community.

I don’t know which manager they are currently in discussion with but I think they already have it in their list. But it would be better if they go with one that knows how to handle clients and also organizes events or knows how to talk to people who are in charge of an event so that they can sponsor that event for more exposure…

Right now they really need to look into working more on promotions because they have lots of competitors already in this community they really need to show their potential customers why they should choose them instead of their previous casino.

Alright, alright, alright...
Signature campaign is on the horizon Cool
Setting up an advertising niche is the only way to actually get people thinking serious about their service and like you have already stated, the community here is filled with lots of competition so if they do want to stand out, they would need to partake fully in every way possible.

Well seeing this update is nice one, atleast it declares their seriousness to sell their service to some extent. I have already set up my account and I hope they do come up with lots of promotion for members here.
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But it's clear that still need help from a specialized manager who can provide you with better solutions to clearly display images. A bitcointalk manager would help you spread the space about Rainbet by running promotional campaigns like seasonal contests, review campaign, and signature campaign.

Op don't get me wrong! you are doing well. Although hiring a manager would give Rainbet a help-hand to be at the level of aspirations of the community.

I don’t know which manager they are currently in discussion with but I think they already have it in their list. But it would be better if they go with one that knows how to handle clients and also organizes events or knows how to talk to people who are in charge of an event so that they can sponsor that event for more exposure…

Right now they really need to look into working more on promotions because they have lots of competitors already in this community they really need to show their potential customers why they should choose them instead of their previous casino.

Alright, alright, alright...
Signature campaign is on the horizon Cool
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