Topic: [NEW] 🚀 Rocketpot.io | 2,500+ Games 🎰 | 10% Cashback 💰 - page 21. (Read 9609 times)

exactly, the results will be different if the site was created under 2016 when the price of Bitcoin is still low, they will not spend thousands of dollars in a short period of time just for promotion.

This site is still being introduced, so it's only natural that daily players are still under 20 people/day. if innovation continues, in a few months and maybe years, I'm sure this will be one of the gambling sites with the most daily players.

You are right. The success of a gambling website depends on many factors. A website can be succesful without a signature camapign and even without any activity on bitcointalk. One of the things that should be considered is exactly what you mentioned about the minimum wagering amount.
What I said was just a suggestion. In my opinion, if a site want to get a good result from signature campaign, it's better to run it for a long time. Nothing is achived in short time and Rocketpot is still a new website. I guess they didn't get the result they expected and that's why they stopped the signature campaign.

Why not? Any sites has their own right on how long they want to run the campaign. The longer campaign does not mean the better result, there are many other aspects needed to make a gambling site survive for long time. First thing that they should do is about lowering the minimum bet as I have suggested some time ago and do more contest/competition to gain more player base.
At the moment the only attractive thing in this site is about the jackpot, but it does not attract smaller because of the minimum bet which is higher compared to other sites. If the reason of the high minimum bet is due the jackpot, basically they can modify the system so any bets under 0.25mBTC wont be included to the jackpot spin.

Its very hard for a new business to continually dump thousands of dollars down the drain with a small player base. I think their decision to stop the campaign for now was correct.

For all new sites it's better to offer smaller promos at first to try and gain a few daily players. Wager contests, free satoshi, roll hunts, etc. Most promos will be EV+ for the players and the site will lose money but in the long run the goal is to gain some daily gamblers.

Yes, you had a signature campaign. But only a 3-week signature campaign. Signature campaign has a good effect only if you run it for a long time. There are many gambling websites and the competition is really difficult. You should continue to promote your website, so finally you can achieve a good result.
If you want to resume your campaign for another 3 week, I recommend you to not do it or run a long campaign.

We experimented with the signature campaign but decided not to continue. Might resume soon though. Will take this opportunity to thank @yahoo62278 for the fine sig management, recommended

well so many campaigns i hadn't seen yet that were stopped after only 3 weeks. but i think the success of additional revenues or people who gambled the signature rewards directly were not big/high enough
but maybe we'll get an official statement about it. if not, but not further tragic... i liked the campaign + website

There's easy-enough ways to make the jackpot a lot closer to provably fair, like using a (verifiable) delay function on the player-list. Actually it wouldn't even need to be cheap to verify, as people don't need to do so in real time.

As you said, even with that, you could also use house-players to increase your chance of winning. But at least that's something that would be a bit more obvious (amount of volume spikes before each jackpot, making something someone expected to be +EV to -EV).

Anyway, the real fix is just being honest and direct that the jackpots are not provably fair, and retracting previous claims. As really they have none of the guarantees expected of provably fair. I think it's a big deal, considering it seems like the vast-majority of your users are playing for the jackpot (all the 1.01x bets) so it's very important they are aware it's not provably fair in any sense (i.e. you could trivially win them all, or make a particular user lose them all in a non-detectible way)

It is usual thing in this forum where there are many sites stop the campaign after few weeks only. The possible reason is that the campaign does not work as expected so they stop it because it is not worth the money the spend on the campaign. Most people in this forum suggest gambling sites to have signature campaign as the best marketing strategy but it wont be effective if there is no other attractive things offered by the site.

yes, i think that's a pity, too was also a participant and everything went smoothly.
only the handling of the site is only possible via mobile phone. as already mentioned on the last pages there was a problem with my computer or it doesn't work. but it works really well via the iphone.

You are right in the sense that it is technically possible to manipulate who wins the Jackpot, and for this reason we have clarified our specifications of the system on https://rocketpot.io/provably-fair/. On this URL, we make it clear that the outcomes can be verified with the given player list: “Given the player list (that consists of player names and their bets) and round hash, anyone can verify the player selection result.”.

More generally - it is indeed very hard to completely prove the fairness since the house/server can influence which wagers get processed or not. Winning wagers could get timed out and never processed, or there could be other creative ways for the house to reject or limit winning wagers, even in a simple dice game.

That would also hit pretty much the same problem we started with, just making it a matter of processing power cost to manipulate the player list. Once the jackpot is big enough, it would be profitable to spend computing power and resources to Brute Force VDF as the house could add its house player’s seed. Also, it would introduce a player list trust issue since the player list would have to be posted to a trusted 3rd party (like a blockchain) before the round starts.

We’ve also considered using a delayed source of random, such as a block hash from Ethereum (averages less than 30 sec), using the first occurrence since the round started. But that also hits player’s list trust and doesn’t remove the possibility of a house player to just bet high in rounds with high multiplier (the jackpot wheel will spin).

The multipliers are mathematically proven to be fair. We are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone that wants to wager on them is able to do so in a fair way (internet timeouts, house players that can in theory manipulate  the auto cashout). However, this seems to be the case for all the other provably fair multiplier games with bankroll and profit limits.

And the jackpots have a theoretically similar problem: The wheel spin stop is mathematically proven to be fair, but we are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone who wants to wager on it is able to do so at all, lest in a fair way.

I hope this clarifies it somewhat. Please note it was not our intention to be misleading and we are working on making the game as ‘provably fair’ as possible.  

I’d like to add that we’ve had some players win some fairly big jackpots already and have paid them out, user Bsky being one of them (he posted in this earlier). We’re also working on a page that will be listing all the biggest jackpot wins and the players who won them (with a link to the round).

I noticed that your signature campaign has ended only after 3 weeks. May I know the reason? Wasn't that profitable? Stopping the signature campaign after only three weeks is not a good sign. It seems that you have not reached your goals.
Also as I see in your website, the number of people playing never exceed 5.

@TheRocketman

Please could you reply to the above post because RHavar raises excellent points.

Thank you for the update.

If you add that little bit of extra transparency (LLC or other incorporation) to your terms and conditions it will be a positive step.

I hope it will bring in new traffic to your website from players that might currently be hesitant to participate.

its not "only" because i support this game, but the fact because we know exactly , jackpot just like a figure of speech.
i mean,did u want spend ur money for a jackpot , rather than get a quick profit on x 4 or 5 , because u exactly know jackpot its seems imposible to get, X50/X250/X1000.

You are sponsoring their logo in your avatar and your signature therefore it is no surprise you hold the views you express

where u comefrom guys ?
i have no problem login to rocketpot, both on my PC/Laptop/or my android , and also with no VPN.





of course , it's no problem with not fair jackpot.
because it's a gambling, and also who on earth want play busta clone just for jackpot.
even without jackpot if they lucky enough it still profitable.

That would be a matter between rocketpot and the CGF, but I very much doubt it. I think the biggest issue would be them misrepresenting their jackpots as being provably fair, when they're clearly not. And it's not even a small matter, considering most players there seem to be only interested in hitting the jackpots (betting at 1.01x).



To be honest, I don't think incorporation really protects players. If anything it protects the business against players.  Imagine there was a huge fuckup and the site lost everyones money. If it's incorporated, in general the individuals aren't really liable for damages and they can just close down the business as bankrupt.

As none of your browsers works, I don't think the problem is because of any stored data.
You also log in to the website via your Iphone with no problem. So It doesn't seem that the problem is due to your connection or any regional restriction unless you are using a different connection on your Iphone. If you are using a different connection on your iphone, try yo use a VPN on your computer. It might be helpul.
The issue might be with your firewall, antivirus or DNS server.

This is in progress and we expect to be ready early next week.