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Yes, you had a signature campaign. But only a 3-week signature campaign. Signature campaign has a good effect only if you run it for a long time. There are many gambling websites and the competition is really difficult. You should continue to promote your website, so finally you can achieve a good result.
If you want to resume your campaign for another 3 week, I recommend you to not do it or run a long campaign.

We experimented with the signature campaign but decided not to continue. Might resume soon though. Will take this opportunity to thank @yahoo62278 for the fine sig management, recommended

well so many campaigns i hadn't seen yet that were stopped after only 3 weeks. but i think the success of additional revenues or people who gambled the signature rewards directly were not big/high enough
but maybe we'll get an official statement about it. if not, but not further tragic... i liked the campaign + website

There's easy-enough ways to make the jackpot a lot closer to provably fair, like using a (verifiable) delay function on the player-list. Actually it wouldn't even need to be cheap to verify, as people don't need to do so in real time.

As you said, even with that, you could also use house-players to increase your chance of winning. But at least that's something that would be a bit more obvious (amount of volume spikes before each jackpot, making something someone expected to be +EV to -EV).

Anyway, the real fix is just being honest and direct that the jackpots are not provably fair, and retracting previous claims. As really they have none of the guarantees expected of provably fair. I think it's a big deal, considering it seems like the vast-majority of your users are playing for the jackpot (all the 1.01x bets) so it's very important they are aware it's not provably fair in any sense (i.e. you could trivially win them all, or make a particular user lose them all in a non-detectible way)

It is usual thing in this forum where there are many sites stop the campaign after few weeks only. The possible reason is that the campaign does not work as expected so they stop it because it is not worth the money the spend on the campaign. Most people in this forum suggest gambling sites to have signature campaign as the best marketing strategy but it wont be effective if there is no other attractive things offered by the site.

yes, i think that's a pity, too was also a participant and everything went smoothly.
only the handling of the site is only possible via mobile phone. as already mentioned on the last pages there was a problem with my computer or it doesn't work. but it works really well via the iphone.

You are right in the sense that it is technically possible to manipulate who wins the Jackpot, and for this reason we have clarified our specifications of the system on https://rocketpot.io/provably-fair/. On this URL, we make it clear that the outcomes can be verified with the given player list: “Given the player list (that consists of player names and their bets) and round hash, anyone can verify the player selection result.”.

More generally - it is indeed very hard to completely prove the fairness since the house/server can influence which wagers get processed or not. Winning wagers could get timed out and never processed, or there could be other creative ways for the house to reject or limit winning wagers, even in a simple dice game.

That would also hit pretty much the same problem we started with, just making it a matter of processing power cost to manipulate the player list. Once the jackpot is big enough, it would be profitable to spend computing power and resources to Brute Force VDF as the house could add its house player’s seed. Also, it would introduce a player list trust issue since the player list would have to be posted to a trusted 3rd party (like a blockchain) before the round starts.

We’ve also considered using a delayed source of random, such as a block hash from Ethereum (averages less than 30 sec), using the first occurrence since the round started. But that also hits player’s list trust and doesn’t remove the possibility of a house player to just bet high in rounds with high multiplier (the jackpot wheel will spin).

The multipliers are mathematically proven to be fair. We are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone that wants to wager on them is able to do so in a fair way (internet timeouts, house players that can in theory manipulate  the auto cashout). However, this seems to be the case for all the other provably fair multiplier games with bankroll and profit limits.

And the jackpots have a theoretically similar problem: The wheel spin stop is mathematically proven to be fair, but we are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone who wants to wager on it is able to do so at all, lest in a fair way.

I hope this clarifies it somewhat. Please note it was not our intention to be misleading and we are working on making the game as ‘provably fair’ as possible.  

I’d like to add that we’ve had some players win some fairly big jackpots already and have paid them out, user Bsky being one of them (he posted in this earlier). We’re also working on a page that will be listing all the biggest jackpot wins and the players who won them (with a link to the round).

I noticed that your signature campaign has ended only after 3 weeks. May I know the reason? Wasn't that profitable? Stopping the signature campaign after only three weeks is not a good sign. It seems that you have not reached your goals.
Also as I see in your website, the number of people playing never exceed 5.

@TheRocketman

Please could you reply to the above post because RHavar raises excellent points.

Thank you for the update.

If you add that little bit of extra transparency (LLC or other incorporation) to your terms and conditions it will be a positive step.

I hope it will bring in new traffic to your website from players that might currently be hesitant to participate.

its not "only" because i support this game, but the fact because we know exactly , jackpot just like a figure of speech.
i mean,did u want spend ur money for a jackpot , rather than get a quick profit on x 4 or 5 , because u exactly know jackpot its seems imposible to get, X50/X250/X1000.

You are sponsoring their logo in your avatar and your signature therefore it is no surprise you hold the views you express

where u comefrom guys ?
i have no problem login to rocketpot, both on my PC/Laptop/or my android , and also with no VPN.





of course , it's no problem with not fair jackpot.
because it's a gambling, and also who on earth want play busta clone just for jackpot.
even without jackpot if they lucky enough it still profitable.

That would be a matter between rocketpot and the CGF, but I very much doubt it. I think the biggest issue would be them misrepresenting their jackpots as being provably fair, when they're clearly not. And it's not even a small matter, considering most players there seem to be only interested in hitting the jackpots (betting at 1.01x).



To be honest, I don't think incorporation really protects players. If anything it protects the business against players.  Imagine there was a huge fuckup and the site lost everyones money. If it's incorporated, in general the individuals aren't really liable for damages and they can just close down the business as bankrupt.

As none of your browsers works, I don't think the problem is because of any stored data.
You also log in to the website via your Iphone with no problem. So It doesn't seem that the problem is due to your connection or any regional restriction unless you are using a different connection on your Iphone. If you are using a different connection on your iphone, try yo use a VPN on your computer. It might be helpul.
The issue might be with your firewall, antivirus or DNS server.

This is in progress and we expect to be ready early next week.

since it works via safari on the iphone I already thought that it could somehow not be due to the account
but what reason could it be that none of my 5! browsers are working correctly? i only have this problem on this page. an idea which data i would have to clean up or which cookie would have to be sufficient to establish a new/clean connection here?

An important question is: For example if this website (rocketpot.io) were to apply to join the CGF (Crypto Gambling Foundation), would they pass the requirements to satisfy inclusion? I doubt they would pass.

In a simple manner of speaking, if misrepresentation of any sort has taken place and if specific winners can be determined and selected in part of the game (or in full) then there is a massive warning signal for any game player.

I still cannot understand why a new gaming website with no provable track record would not be a registered LLC or other incorporation which would allow game players to at least know to try to hold to account in the event any scam or theft ever took place. Existing sites with years upon years of history and excellent customer services are exceptions but any new website trying to muscle in or that territory should surely cover all angles to bring in new users.

Except that's not what provably fair means. You can directly control who wins the jackpot, if you have a house-player. And there's absolutely zero way for people to have any idea if you're doing it or not.

That's not bad per se, and doesn't mean you're cheating. But it means it's not provably fair. Full stop. Any attempt to market is as provably fair is dishonest.



Actually you have a (small) point.  In bustabit for instance there's a "forced cashout" when the server will cash people out due to a per-game stop-loss being hit. And you're right, this is not provably fair. But it's also why bustabit tries so hard to make it so hard for this to ever happen. Like such that it it doesn't even accept single bets that could trigger it. I suspect it hasn't even happened at all in the last year, so in reality it's just not a real issue. But you're right on this point.  But there's several orders of magnitude difference.


I think you're smart enough to know this is technobabble. Before the round starts the house has all the information it needs to know who will win the jackpot. It also has the ability to control who joins the rounds (which dictates who wins). It can *very* easily add extra players and modify the bet amounts such that the house player wins. The house can trivially brute force even a million combinations in a fraction of a second to find out which combination will result in the house winning, and then execute that one.


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Anyway your response to this is extremely disappointing to say the least. There were two obvious ways to correctly handle this situation:

a) Make the jackpot provably fair

There's a few ways to do this, one neat way would be run a verifiable-delay-functions on the game player bet list, where each client also sends a randomized seed with their bet. Then if the game goes over XXX you use that result to calculate the jackpot winner.


b) Just let everyone know "our multipliers are provably fair but our jackpots aren't! it's just a bonus"


but instead you've decided to go down the third pat, and just spout nonsense and misrepresent it as something it's clearly not. I would encourage people to not play here until your marketing matches reality.

I am sure the problem is related to your computer. There is no problem with the website nor your account. I always use Goolge Chrome to login into Rocketpot and haven't experienced any trouble yet. It only takes 5-10 seconds to load. I just tested that via Firefox and logged in with no problem.