Phill. Can you check in with these guys? Are they still selling? Did they change the moq and price? I lost thier contant.
hell i can look but we have not spoken via email in over a year.
it will take me time. maybe tomorrow night.
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hell i can look but we have not spoken via email in over a year.
it will take me time. maybe tomorrow night.
Phill. Can you check in with these guys? Are they still selling? Did they change the moq and price? I lost thier contant.
I was looking for 100 at most.
600 minimum and import tax make them a no go.
They have chosen to not post here. I would guess they found someone. And built out a run for them.
BTW with the crazy heat we have had 2 boards shut down on two units.
One still works.
But they were being torture tested as input temps are 95 f and output temps of mining room are 110 f
the one that lasted had the higher quality fans.
all fans are under the rpm of the normal s9 fans.
I Used 3600 rpm 150 cfm fans and they were not good enough
The 4800 rpm super high end all metal san ace is working great.
So i would say the fails are a reflection of the fans not the boards
600 minimum and import tax make them a no go.
They have chosen to not post here. I would guess they found someone. And built out a run for them.
BTW with the crazy heat we have had 2 boards shut down on two units.
One still works.
But they were being torture tested as input temps are 95 f and output temps of mining room are 110 f
the one that lasted had the higher quality fans.
all fans are under the rpm of the normal s9 fans.
I Used 3600 rpm 150 cfm fans and they were not good enough
The 4800 rpm super high end all metal san ace is working great.
So i would say the fails are a reflection of the fans not the boards
i would buy maybe enough to do 2 s9 shells and then donate the s9 boards to gekkoscience for his r606's.
Is it a chinese company or something from europe?
My best guess is they are from China, or any other Asian country for that matter, cost wise U.S and Europe can't compete with China as far as mining is concerned, so nobody in their right mind would try to make those boards in EU.
.It is pretty obvious to me since they are not posting here so my guess is they do not want to sell here.
I find it strange, they do seem serious, you have a proof that their hash boards work as advertised, yet they don't seem desperate to sell their products, it is possible that somebody found his way to them and bought everything in bulk, thousands of S9 control boards are lying around doing nothing.
They are not based in North America or Central America . I am in USA package was sent from a foreign Country via DHL.
It is pretty obvious to me since they are not posting here so my guess is they do not want to sell here.
It is pretty obvious to me since they are not posting here so my guess is they do not want to sell here.
Is it a chinese company or something from europe?
they monitor thread.
I would think if they want to do sales here they can post.
They told me 600 board minimum.
1/2 up front. 118 usd a board.
maybe they will offer a sale thread.
but for me in the usa they are not a fit . maybe they are a fit for you.
they are using the shell and the controller along with fans.
and the wires .
Semantically speaking s9 up grade is kind of accurate. your name is also accurate.
but my conditions were not to reveal builder so if he wants to post and try to do sales he will do so not me.
He knows it is not a fit for me.
I would think if they want to do sales here they can post.
They told me 600 board minimum.
1/2 up front. 118 usd a board.
maybe they will offer a sale thread.
but for me in the usa they are not a fit . maybe they are a fit for you.
they are using the shell and the controller along with fans.
and the wires .
Semantically speaking s9 up grade is kind of accurate. your name is also accurate.
but my conditions were not to reveal builder so if he wants to post and try to do sales he will do so not me.
He knows it is not a fit for me.
All right, its not good for you. But can't you ask them to directly provide their service here, or via some website? Not everyone lives in America.
They should just use their own company name, and sell them as "s9 form factor boards" or such, with their own controller. So all they would sell is controllers and hash boards.
Honestly those franken S9s should not be called S9 at all, they have nothing from Bitmain (unless the chips themselves are the ones from the newer families, but do these each report temp? i know the inno ones did). I'm surprised they are not already selling a whole miner that way. There is market for "half a T17", for example.
The min power requirement of the latest units is getting ridiculous. The way things are going they might as well skip with the home stuff and go straight to industrial plugs...
Shells are plenty on ebay and alibaba, and if demand comes, someone would keep building them (especially in China).
Not like the S9 shell is any worth preserving... It just happens that there is a lot of them and could see some reuse.
They should just use their own company name, and sell them as "s9 form factor boards" or such, with their own controller. So all they would sell is controllers and hash boards.
Honestly those franken S9s should not be called S9 at all, they have nothing from Bitmain (unless the chips themselves are the ones from the newer families, but do these each report temp? i know the inno ones did). I'm surprised they are not already selling a whole miner that way. There is market for "half a T17", for example.
The min power requirement of the latest units is getting ridiculous. The way things are going they might as well skip with the home stuff and go straight to industrial plugs...
Shells are plenty on ebay and alibaba, and if demand comes, someone would keep building them (especially in China).
Not like the S9 shell is any worth preserving... It just happens that there is a lot of them and could see some reuse.
Too bad as I have dead s9's up the wahzoo and would have been interested in being able to reviving a few of the carcasses by using new innards. Ah well.
yeah disappointing.
My 28 s9 shells 🐚 could have done 560-600 th
vs 300-330th
and use less power.
Not that interested in a group buy as I don’t want to handle the funds along with the risk of trump tax.
I was hoping for lower order level and lower price.
But parts and setup are costly for builder.
Too bad as I have dead s9's up the wahzoo and would have been interested in being able to reviving a few of the carcasses by using new innards. Ah well.
Can’t do 600 x 118 = 70800. and I may get stuck paying 18000 import tax.
yeah they need to be three board .
set to normal
about 1150 watts and 20th.
yeah they need to be three board .
set to normal
about 1150 watts and 20th.
... given the lack of gears supply nowadays I think they will do just fine with about $75-80.
agreed with this - at that price, I would fit the two shells I have and put the psu's to use. right now they are just gathering dust.
If we ignore the noise, and use 3 boards instead of 2, total cost will be
3*118 = $354
so 21th at 55w/th for $354 or 42th at $708, that is like buying a T17 42th for $708, now if someone has a dead S9 that is worth nothing and APW3/7 that sitting there doing nothing, this might be not to bad a deal, for the following reasons
1- T17 quality sucks
2- T17 Requires 220v while these can work with 110v and don't need a stable voltage
3- The cost of power supply on T17 is about $200, while a used APW3/7 can go for as low as $10
4- If you lose 1 board on a T17 that's about $200 gone, and only 50% of that if you lose one of these boards
With that being said, given the efforts, it might still not worth $118, my initial thought was 60-65$, given the lack of gears supply nowadays I think they will do just fine with about $75-80.
3*118 = $354
so 21th at 55w/th for $354 or 42th at $708, that is like buying a T17 42th for $708, now if someone has a dead S9 that is worth nothing and APW3/7 that sitting there doing nothing, this might be not to bad a deal, for the following reasons
1- T17 quality sucks
2- T17 Requires 220v while these can work with 110v and don't need a stable voltage
3- The cost of power supply on T17 is about $200, while a used APW3/7 can go for as low as $10
4- If you lose 1 board on a T17 that's about $200 gone, and only 50% of that if you lose one of these boards
With that being said, given the efforts, it might still not worth $118, my initial thought was 60-65$, given the lack of gears supply nowadays I think they will do just fine with about $75-80.
Yep thats not worth doing. You need to be making something for all the time and effort in building the things.
yea they are wanting too much per board. good job on the work you did but yea I dont blame ya for not going in on 600 boards at that price.
Well if the price is good enough I'm sure there would be a lot of people who would like to convert their S9 paperweights into something useful. Break-even for 55W/Th is about 5.6c/kWh. Could work if the price is around $60 per board. Of course if BTC tanks you'd be left holding the bag unless you got commitments before ordering.
Well we can forget about this project. I just got pricing for 118 a board.
Even if I go with custom 2 board build designed for quiet.
Parts would 2x 118 = 236
Shells are 30-40. = 276
Newer fans = 14
A few other parts. = 10
a grand total of $300 for a 2 board that does 10-12-14th. and uses 550-660-770 watts
This is my cost to build it. So even If I restrict to USA only. it is 30 to ship
330 cost at zero profit for me. Not going to work.
Well if the price is good enough I'm sure there would be a lot of people who would like to convert their S9 paperweights into something useful. Break-even for 55W/Th is about 5.6c/kWh. Could work if the price is around $60 per board. Of course if BTC tanks you'd be left holding the bag unless you got commitments before ordering.
Well frankly 600 boards would be 200 to 600 miners depends on the boards per unit.
I have 28-29 shells. So even if I build 28 miners to use at the Clifton ware house that is 28 x 3 = 84 boards
so I only need 84-100 boards.
Assuming the offer for 600 boards is a decent price.
I would have 500 boards to sell.
I am not going to source s9 shells 🐚 with controllers and fans.
I would need to be able to sell 500 boards. I am not sure of the demand for that many boards.
Remember while these are pretty good doing 55 watts a th. they are not super good. say 35-40 watts a th.
Now I will wait and see what he wants to charge me for the order of 600 boards.
Lets say I like the price.
I need to see what can be done to ensure delivery 🚚 of the gear.
I need to see if someone wants boards.
I have 28-29 shells. So even if I build 28 miners to use at the Clifton ware house that is 28 x 3 = 84 boards
so I only need 84-100 boards.
Assuming the offer for 600 boards is a decent price.
I would have 500 boards to sell.
I am not going to source s9 shells 🐚 with controllers and fans.
I would need to be able to sell 500 boards. I am not sure of the demand for that many boards.
Remember while these are pretty good doing 55 watts a th. they are not super good. say 35-40 watts a th.
Now I will wait and see what he wants to charge me for the order of 600 boards.
Lets say I like the price.
I need to see what can be done to ensure delivery 🚚 of the gear.
I need to see if someone wants boards.
Are you thinking of selling the additional boards on? Would you be selling just the boards or complete "plug and play" units Phillip?
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