Topic: New s9 upgrade thread. Some info is 🆙❤⚡ - page 3. (Read 1511 times)
when they come up for sale, let me know.
It cycles a bit when it tunes.
Older Avalons would do this. Some times they would boot every 2-4 hours or
It means fans pick up speed just a bit every 2-4 hours.
I know the fans I am using are some of the lower quality ones bitmain would use on s9's
I am hoping to get the gear to run really stable with out upticks in the fan and or reboots.
At 55 watts a th for a lottery machine burning well under 400 watts closer to 290-310 watts it should be good For space heating and pretty quiet.
New fans come next week.
Now if you just want to run it with 3 board at low speed and don't care about noise I am doing 910 watts and 16.1 th about 56-57 watts a th at the k-watt meter.
I use the 1200 watt hp psu blue jack for platinum. Found on ebay for cheap
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-643956-201-1200W-HSTNS-PL30-Platinum-Plus-Hot-Plug-Power-Supply-643933-101/312798058602?
Older Avalons would do this. Some times they would boot every 2-4 hours or
It means fans pick up speed just a bit every 2-4 hours.
I know the fans I am using are some of the lower quality ones bitmain would use on s9's
I am hoping to get the gear to run really stable with out upticks in the fan and or reboots.
At 55 watts a th for a lottery machine burning well under 400 watts closer to 290-310 watts it should be good For space heating and pretty quiet.
New fans come next week.
Now if you just want to run it with 3 board at low speed and don't care about noise I am doing 910 watts and 16.1 th about 56-57 watts a th at the k-watt meter.
I use the 1200 watt hp psu blue jack for platinum. Found on ebay for cheap
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-643956-201-1200W-HSTNS-PL30-Platinum-Plus-Hot-Plug-Power-Supply-643933-101/312798058602?
55 watts per th isnt bad especially if you can run them on 110v - will allow for a lot more home mining if they have decent electricity.
the new boards need some work in terms of correct fan and best down clock.
The stock s9 fans are shit. and i have a lot of old ones.
I ordered some higher end fans.
the ones i order for my sales thread were nice with braiins firmware which allow huge downclock and a very quiet miner that uses 80 watts a th. about 5th for two boards and four hundred watts.
these boards auto tune to 450 freq at about 55 watts a th.
but that 5.3-5.5 hashing at say 325 watts. it has flakey tuning i kind of want to play with it more.
The stock s9 fans are shit. and i have a lot of old ones.
I ordered some higher end fans.
the ones i order for my sales thread were nice with braiins firmware which allow huge downclock and a very quiet miner that uses 80 watts a th. about 5th for two boards and four hundred watts.
these boards auto tune to 450 freq at about 55 watts a th.
but that 5.3-5.5 hashing at say 325 watts. it has flakey tuning i kind of want to play with it more.
let me know when they come available, I still have one S9 I could swap them in on and see how it works. 1 or 2 boards would be great as it could run on 110 v - with proper fans maybe even be decent enough to put in the house lol
thinking of my grandson who wants to mine but has no job so he is not getting any large power hungry asic lol
thinking of my grandson who wants to mine but has no job so he is not getting any large power hungry asic lol
I like these hash boards so much I ordered some better quality fans and will test some more.
I locked the older s9 mod threads.
I would not mind having three 1 board miners using these hash boards.
hashing at 6th and using about 320 watts.
I locked the older s9 mod threads.
I would not mind having three 1 board miners using these hash boards.
hashing at 6th and using about 320 watts.
Exactly they are a non bitmain company .
They made 51 chip boards vs 63 chips.
But the pcb board is the exact size as an Antminer board.
Here are some screen shots. showing a two board running. the gui mining status and the pool numbers.
this uses 616 watts. to do 11th. about 56-57 watts a th.
I need a lot more testing on this.
I will be making a you tube soon.
since it is a non bitmain chip the freq range is different then the s9 chips.
low setting with tuning tries freq 450 with best volts/watts
pll option allows you to pick any freq from 450-570 and then try to tune for best efficient numbers
since my hope is building better space heaters I asked if I can go lower then freq 450 and use the pll tuning .
so I am trying 2 boards and pll freq 400 option.
hope to drop hash rate to 9-10th and power to 520-560
auto tuning takes more then 20 minutes
here is a nice feature temp of every chip.
look at middle board it is not connected in any way reads -99
freq set of 400 yields
watts at 531
hash at 10.31
only 51-52 watts a th
this is actually better then expected
looked pool side and I get
watts at 531
hash at 9.84 th
about 53-54 watts a th. this is what I expected to get.
I use this psu and volts supplied to it are 240
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-643956-201-1200W-HSTNS-PL30-Platinum-Plus-Hot-Plug-Power-Supply-643933-101/312798058602?
My braiins gear does about 85 watts a th. I can set it lower then freq 400. so I can do 300 watts to 350 watts with a two board miner braiins. but far less efficient then this gear.
I will run this at freq 400 for a few more hours
I will drop to freq 350 to see if we can get lower watts and not lose efficiency.
It would be nice to go to 475 watts and 8.75 th. on freq 350.
here are freq 350 numbers.
the settings
the hash gui
note that fan sensor is weird I will replace fan to see if it goes away
replaced fan. and get correct readings so fan had a bad tach wire.
looks like at freq 350 watts are steady at 463
and hash fluxes from 7700 to 8400. I am going to run over night to see if it gets a more stable hash rate.
I will also see viabtc long time avg
if it does 8000 at 463 it is 56-58 watts. if it does 8400 it is 54-55 watts
They made 51 chip boards vs 63 chips.
But the pcb board is the exact size as an Antminer board.
Here are some screen shots. showing a two board running. the gui mining status and the pool numbers.
this uses 616 watts. to do 11th. about 56-57 watts a th.
I need a lot more testing on this.
I will be making a you tube soon.
since it is a non bitmain chip the freq range is different then the s9 chips.
low setting with tuning tries freq 450 with best volts/watts
pll option allows you to pick any freq from 450-570 and then try to tune for best efficient numbers
since my hope is building better space heaters I asked if I can go lower then freq 450 and use the pll tuning .
so I am trying 2 boards and pll freq 400 option.
hope to drop hash rate to 9-10th and power to 520-560
auto tuning takes more then 20 minutes
here is a nice feature temp of every chip.
look at middle board it is not connected in any way reads -99
freq set of 400 yields
watts at 531
hash at 10.31
only 51-52 watts a th
this is actually better then expected
looked pool side and I get
watts at 531
hash at 9.84 th
about 53-54 watts a th. this is what I expected to get.
I use this psu and volts supplied to it are 240
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-643956-201-1200W-HSTNS-PL30-Platinum-Plus-Hot-Plug-Power-Supply-643933-101/312798058602?
My braiins gear does about 85 watts a th. I can set it lower then freq 400. so I can do 300 watts to 350 watts with a two board miner braiins. but far less efficient then this gear.
I will run this at freq 400 for a few more hours
I will drop to freq 350 to see if we can get lower watts and not lose efficiency.
It would be nice to go to 475 watts and 8.75 th. on freq 350.
here are freq 350 numbers.
the settings
the hash gui
note that fan sensor is weird I will replace fan to see if it goes away
replaced fan. and get correct readings so fan had a bad tach wire.
looks like at freq 350 watts are steady at 463
and hash fluxes from 7700 to 8400. I am going to run over night to see if it gets a more stable hash rate.
I will also see viabtc long time avg
if it does 8000 at 463 it is 56-58 watts. if it does 8400 it is 54-55 watts
interesting - when you say mystery builder - do you mean these are not bitmain boards?
edit - I re-read it and see that you have another company making these - at first I thought you were modifying the S9's
edit - I re-read it and see that you have another company making these - at first I thought you were modifying the S9's
So I will set a three board unit up and show the hashing differences soon. Maybe Sunday morning.
So pcb boards = same size. this is smart enough. have to drop into the s9 case.
heat sinks = very close or the same. makes sense as it is a generic part.
chip count bitmain = 63
chip count. mystery builder = 51
cap count bitmain = 6
cap count. mystery builder = 7
My goal will be determine if the gear does as well as promised.
Make some more s9 space heater units.
note I sold 7 pieces of braiins based gear and used 2 boards . I don't want those people to feel screwed over.
So if this turns out good. I will see what I can do.
Those sales helped me talk with this builder into the idea of building better space heaters.
I will just see how if all plays out. But if it plays out well those buyers will be happy they supported me.
I have finally gotten gear to mine.
I have some old controllers.
So I was to load this firmware into the controller via the gui option.
new bitmain firmware means burn an sdcard.
and load via sd card slot.
I will try that tomorrow.
Right now I set gear to low and auto tune.
I am running it to btc.viabtc.com its mining away. I will know iif it makes specs for low in the morning.
So pcb boards = same size. this is smart enough. have to drop into the s9 case.
heat sinks = very close or the same. makes sense as it is a generic part.
chip count bitmain = 63
chip count. mystery builder = 51
cap count bitmain = 6
cap count. mystery builder = 7
My goal will be determine if the gear does as well as promised.
Make some more s9 space heater units.
note I sold 7 pieces of braiins based gear and used 2 boards . I don't want those people to feel screwed over.
So if this turns out good. I will see what I can do.
Those sales helped me talk with this builder into the idea of building better space heaters.
I will just see how if all plays out. But if it plays out well those buyers will be happy they supported me.
I have finally gotten gear to mine.
I have some old controllers.
So I was to load this firmware into the controller via the gui option.
new bitmain firmware means burn an sdcard.
and load via sd card slot.
I will try that tomorrow.
Right now I set gear to low and auto tune.
I am running it to btc.viabtc.com its mining away. I will know iif it makes specs for low in the morning.
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June 6 edit.
I am getting an s9 upgrade kit.
3 drop in hashboards.
If you have spare s9's you could hold them and wait for my test results.
The boards are due today.
Working firmware will be released to me on Monday.
I have agreed to not say the builder's name.
I have been told the new boards will have high medium low settings.
When I do testing I will test
1 board miner on all 3 speeds
2 board miner on all 3 speeds
3 board miner on all 3 speeds
info here and info at YouTube will be posted.
if gear is as speed and watts have been told to me. they may be worth holding onto your s9's for a few weeks.
Since I don't have boards or firmware or prices.
I will leave this thread locked for now.
I have told by the builder that
They are more efficient and they hash more than the s9e.
so they will hash higher than 16.0 th and burn less then 1280 watts
June 6 edit.
I am getting an s9 upgrade kit.
3 drop in hashboards.
If you have spare s9's you could hold them and wait for my test results.
The boards are due today.
Working firmware will be released to me on Monday.
I have agreed to not say the builder's name.
I have been told the new boards will have high medium low settings.
When I do testing I will test
1 board miner on all 3 speeds
2 board miner on all 3 speeds
3 board miner on all 3 speeds
info here and info at YouTube will be posted.
if gear is as speed and watts have been told to me. they may be worth holding onto your s9's for a few weeks.
Since I don't have boards or firmware or prices.
I will leave this thread locked for now.
I have told by the builder that
They are more efficient and they hash more than the s9e.
so they will hash higher than 16.0 th and burn less then 1280 watts
Product Glance Value
Version
Model No.
Crypto Algorithm S9 SE
120-K
SHA256
Hashrate, TH/s 16.00
Reference power on wall, Watt 1280
Reference power efficiency on wall @25°C, J/TH 80.00
Adapted AC/DC output requirement, Watt/ Volt 1574 / 12.00
Detailed Characteristics Value
Min Typ Max
Hashrate & Power
Hashrate, TH/s 16.00 16.95
Power efficiency on wall @25°C, J/TH(1-1) 80.00 85.60
Power efficiency on wall @40°C, J/TH(1-2) 84.02 89.90
Reference power on wall, Watt (1-3) 1280 1524
DC input voltage range, Volt (1-4) 11.60 12.00 13.00
DC input current range, Amp (1-5) 106.7 131.4
Adapted AC/DC output power requirement, Watt (1-6) 1417 1574
Hardware Configuration
Quantity of hash chips 180
Quantity of hash boards 3
Networking connection mode RJ45 ethernet 10/100M
Miner Size (Length*Width*Height, w/o package), mm 321.3*129.6*200
Net weight, kg 4.56
Noise, dBA @25°C (2-1) 76
Environment Requirements
Operation temperature,°C 0 25 40
Storage temperature,°C -40 25 85
Operation humidity, RH 5% 95%
Notes:
(1-1) Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-2) Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-3) Min condition: 25℃, min J/TH, typical hashrate
Max condition: 40℃, max J/TH, max hashrate
Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-4) Caution: Wrong input voltage may probably cause miner damaged
(1-5) Typ condition: min reference power, typical DC input voltage
Max condition: max reference power, min DC input voltage
(1-6) Min condition: 40℃, max J/TH, max hashrate,
PSU output power should be no less than the min value to make sure mining stable.
Typical condition: (typical power) = (min power)/90%, leave power output margin for PSU.
Caution: It is strongly recommended that using typical power can make sure your miner can work
well. You can use one PSU to power multiple boards. Do not attempt to power one board with
more than one PSU. All PCI-E ports are required to plug in while powering up the board.
(2-1) Max condition: Fan is under max RPM(rotation per minute).
Version
Model No.
Crypto Algorithm S9 SE
120-K
SHA256
Hashrate, TH/s 16.00
Reference power on wall, Watt 1280
Reference power efficiency on wall @25°C, J/TH 80.00
Adapted AC/DC output requirement, Watt/ Volt 1574 / 12.00
Detailed Characteristics Value
Min Typ Max
Hashrate & Power
Hashrate, TH/s 16.00 16.95
Power efficiency on wall @25°C, J/TH(1-1) 80.00 85.60
Power efficiency on wall @40°C, J/TH(1-2) 84.02 89.90
Reference power on wall, Watt (1-3) 1280 1524
DC input voltage range, Volt (1-4) 11.60 12.00 13.00
DC input current range, Amp (1-5) 106.7 131.4
Adapted AC/DC output power requirement, Watt (1-6) 1417 1574
Hardware Configuration
Quantity of hash chips 180
Quantity of hash boards 3
Networking connection mode RJ45 ethernet 10/100M
Miner Size (Length*Width*Height, w/o package), mm 321.3*129.6*200
Net weight, kg 4.56
Noise, dBA @25°C (2-1) 76
Environment Requirements
Operation temperature,°C 0 25 40
Storage temperature,°C -40 25 85
Operation humidity, RH 5% 95%
Notes:
(1-1) Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-2) Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-3) Min condition: 25℃, min J/TH, typical hashrate
Max condition: 40℃, max J/TH, max hashrate
Refers PSU power conversion efficiency of 93%
(1-4) Caution: Wrong input voltage may probably cause miner damaged
(1-5) Typ condition: min reference power, typical DC input voltage
Max condition: max reference power, min DC input voltage
(1-6) Min condition: 40℃, max J/TH, max hashrate,
PSU output power should be no less than the min value to make sure mining stable.
Typical condition: (typical power) = (min power)/90%, leave power output margin for PSU.
Caution: It is strongly recommended that using typical power can make sure your miner can work
well. You can use one PSU to power multiple boards. Do not attempt to power one board with
more than one PSU. All PCI-E ports are required to plug in while powering up the board.
(2-1) Max condition: Fan is under max RPM(rotation per minute).
this is the latest s9 thread and will stay open this is not bitmain hash boards.
the builder has asked me to not reveal whom he or she is.
this is more,effficient then bitmain gear.
i have a one board and a two board build.
edit I am doing 1 board mods only as I have developed an air flow idea that works much better as a one board mod.
Teaser for now.
Some info is below.
photos
right is new hash board the pcb is same size as s9 as it needs to fit in an s9 case.
note a blocked a serial number.
top has 7 caps on pcie jack side of the board.
if you could the chips it looks like 51
the older s9 left has 63 chips
it has zero caps on pcie jack side of the board.
same as above twisted for a better view
second photo
s9 is on bottom and has 6 caps
and burnt pcie jacks since it is an old hash board.
So 51 chips vs 63 chips
7 caps vs 6 caps.
the smaller shit I left out and won't get into detail with super close ups.
the builder has asked me to not reveal whom he or she is.
this is more,effficient then bitmain gear.
i have a one board and a two board build.
edit I am doing 1 board mods only as I have developed an air flow idea that works much better as a one board mod.
Teaser for now.
Some info is below.
photos
right is new hash board the pcb is same size as s9 as it needs to fit in an s9 case.
note a blocked a serial number.
top has 7 caps on pcie jack side of the board.
if you could the chips it looks like 51
the older s9 left has 63 chips
it has zero caps on pcie jack side of the board.
same as above twisted for a better view
second photo
s9 is on bottom and has 6 caps
and burnt pcie jacks since it is an old hash board.
So 51 chips vs 63 chips
7 caps vs 6 caps.
the smaller shit I left out and won't get into detail with super close ups.
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