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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
And a  new update.

I was replied to on June 16th it went to my spam folder.

My bad.

They told me they have a 600 board minimum. I replied today letting them know I could be interested in a 600 board shipment.

Details are pay 1/2 up front

3-5 weeks to set up the assembly

1 week to make the 600 boards.

So In theory if I pull the trigger I could get them 6 weeks from now.

Frankly I do not need 600 for myself.

I could do with 60 to 100 for myself.

I will see what price with shipping to New Jersey , USA   will cost for 600 boards.

I will post back when I get a reply.
I will check my spam folder a lot more closely  Grin
member
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I love the numbers, perfect small space heater with good efficiency ( not cutting edge but super respectable ). I'm seasonal miner now, quiet space heater is huge market IMO. Lot's of friends wanna mine and heat but can't handle a 3KW+ beast mode miner.

I'm following your thread closely, waiting for price per board.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
Battery died it is charging.

I have come to the conclusion that the 120mm x 25mm 3000 rpm delta's are not good enough.

The better fan does work well it is all metal 120mm x 38mm. 4900 rpm A guy on eBay has 10 or more to sell.

I can set the gear to normal speed in a warm room. 85f

lock the fan in at 50% minimum and it does the job

Here are current settings 'normal'

takes an hour to tune somewhat

room is getting too warm 86f

https://i.imgur.com/cZkoA47.png

I am going to eat lunch

I will show temps
I will show hash rate
I will make YouTube

2-3 hours



https://i.imgur.com/BfzUAMp.png

That is the better fans running as a pair I can go to highest speed with no issue.



To update.

I liked these boards and made inquires into purchase of

  10
  50
100
500

boards.

It has been more then 2 weeks since I asked so I have decided he may have no interest in selling to me.

After much testing I did discover a 1 fan push worked best for cooling and saved more power.

Kind of like the older avalons.

I was able to get very good numbers at normal speed. which is a freq of 510

I did 6.1th and used 340 watts  this is 55 watts a th

since the builder has not offer these to me in bulk and i have 3 boards in 3 separate units I will most likely use them to space heat the house this winter.
legendary
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wish you had shown the temps of the other one with the  better fan.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
This is the video I just made.

https://youtu.be/6niZ_J37x1U

maybe have to think about it.  they need to be spliced as they come cut.

check video.
legendary
Activity: 2254
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can you share where you got the fans - I would like to have some back ups and better fans are always better - I assume they will work on all the antminers?
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
We just got back from blood🩸 drawing.

Results on Friday.

If we show positive antibodies we will look to see a few ear 👂 nose 👃 throat doctors.

Years ago I had my nose 👃 cauterized due to endless post nasal drip 💧.

It worked pretty well.

I will also be able to go back and forth to Clifton and work on the mining farm more.

I am talking about getting a large board order for these boards.
I hope to get a reply today.

Depending on deal offer and time line I may ask for pre order money 💵 but I really don’t want to do that.

Ideal would be an order of 750usd worth of boards.
Get the boards.
Then another order of 750 usd worth of boards
get the boards
then another order of 750 usd worth of boards.



No news on boards but china is locking down sections again.

Note: this is from another post of mine

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54642018

left wing source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beijing-outbreak-intl-hnk/index.html

left wing source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/beijing-lockdown-tightens-as-new-coronavirus-outbreak-spreads

right wing source: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/more-than-100-million-people-in-china-face-new-lockdown-as-second-wave-of-covid-19-cases-emerge

So I am guessing it is real since both left and right say it is. Grin

To all don't order from China for a few weeks. ... "

I got the high quality $50 usd a piece  fans I got them used for $14 each.

They are so good you only need one like an older Avalon
I also redesigned them yet again and look at the cooling



only 3 hardware errors



I have another fan on order I will build the unit with that and test. I will also do a movie today.
jr. member
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Yes- we live in crazy times. However, we did survive the 70s... when we all felt tomorrow could be the day the nukes are unleashed. I think most of us will get through this too. I'm sorry to hear your wife has had such a hard time. Nice to see her O2 back to a normal range. My wife had a double lung transplant last fall.  We all forget how vital this organ is.

Nice to hear you have the antibodies test available there. After such a rough Winter, I hope they find antibodies in both of you. The next thing is "how long will the antibodies last"? I know they're collecting data on that. Hopefully, they last at least until a vaccine is available.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
I asked for pricing on :

   10
   50
 100
 500

boards.

Mostly depends on what he or she tells me for price.

These make

quiet one board 290-320 watts about 5.5 th

yeah you can do a two board but so far I can’t get them to be quiet as  I like.

and of course you can do a three board but fan speeds on low setting make them pretty loud.

So far simply set to low speed and let it tune for a day.

after 15-16 hours it locks in and does not reboot much.

I will be getting a covid-19 antibody test tomorrow. As will my wife.

we finally have them available to take.

I am hoping they find antibodies in both of us.

we were both really sick in Mid Jan.  I fully recovered,but my wife seems to have damaged her sinuses as she is now on month five of a post nasal drip. Simply can not stop 🛑 it.

Good news for her is the O2 meter we got read 96,97,98 % and even 99%

when she got out of hospital 🏥 it read  91,92,93%. so what ever the double pneumonia did to her lungs is healed. her temps are 96-97.9 last 70 days and her pulse is 67-78. unless she had a cough fit from the endless post nasal drip.

we will be going to more doctors for her once we get the test result.

This is all not off topic even though it seems to be.  I and my wife have been spending tons of time with different treatments and studying many pages of info on meds and treatments. So it slows my btc work.

covid-19 and now the protests and riots have slowed me up a lot this year.
jr. member
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Very interesting thread, Phil. Great idea for space heaters with decent efficiency.
Please let me know when you have dashboards available for sale or if they can be purchased from the "mystery builder".
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
The newest design has a spacer .  It is why I have been getting away with the 3000 rpm fans.

I use 4 things
Some 2 by 4 wood
some silicone epoxy
some metal tape
some screws

I cut 3 pieces of 2 by 4 into trapezoids
I silicone them into 1 piece
I wrap them with metal tape
I put them into an s9 shell.

You can use wood glue or silicone epoxy





here is a you tube of assemble with silicone epoxy. it is in 3 parts.

1st video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYw5PxWqRSg

2 more videos coming.

more on assembly of air flow guide

https://youtu.be/Ttt5HsUUDI8

third video will come in a while as YouTube is slow to upload  today.

I am really pleased with these  air flow mods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNri1LpEGAU&feature=youtu.be


At this point I am going to run 2 1 board units over night.

They are fully built and I will be test and comparing them for 3-4 nights.

In 5 nights I will be running a third unit with 1 board and really good fans hi end long life fans from san ace.

made of metal not plastic.  they are 4700 rpm fans and fairly quiet.

So I should have 3 comparison units. fully tested by next weekend.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 6581
be constructive or S.T.F.U
With the new air flow design I can get 54-56 watts.

That is pretty much T17 efficiency which is very impressive, those guys did a great work for sure.

I want to get it working with solo.ckpool.org
I want to get it working with mmpool.org

It probably uses cgminer and almost all things pool related are the same so I wouldn't expect any issues like this, it will work on those pools without a doubt.

Took the image you posted above, I like how it shows the temp of each chip



I think the design can be improved, the chips I circled are located right behind the fan's motor, and they tend to get hotter than the rest, the design on the normal S9 board is better as they leave a few empty slots in the middle like a V shape, you might want to discuss that with the maker, you could also use a spacer to allow more cooling for those poor front chips, that will allow you to run fans at even lower RPM to save a tiny bit of power and get some noise reduction.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
With the new air flow design I can get 54-56 watts.

But this will take a lot more design and testing.

I have good 3000 rpm fans
I have shit 6000 rpm fans

I am waiting on really good 4900 rpm fans.

When you are making a niche product you some times have to restrict  stuff of it fucks up.
I need to know what fans are strong enough  but not too strong as I am not trying to run hard and fast and loud.

A one board unit burning 295 watts and doing 5.3 th is about 55.67 watts

I have a lot of testing.  As I don't fully understand the firmware quirks.

I need to know what pools work.

Ie.

I want to get it working with solo.ckpool.org
I want to get it working with mmpool.org

I have it working fine with viabtc and slush.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 6581
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What is the best Watts per TH you achieved for this type of cooling with a single board? also, it would be best if you ask the "mystery maker" about the max temp their chips can handle, 80 is pretty good for the regular BM1387B/ BM1387 chips but it could be a bit high for the new chips, so better safe than sorry, especially that you are planning on selling these gears, so it's not just about you losing a few boards, but also getting yourself in troubles with your clients.

Good luck with this great project phill, let me know if you need my help at any point.
legendary
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[...]

I use a bitmain controller I have a lot of them mine had old firmware and I was able to use Bitmain gui to upgrade it.

Most will need to burn a micro sd card and move the pin to boot with the card.

I can make a really good one board out of it.

I came up with a very nice way to maximize cooling off 1 board.

Running the unit on low with lessor fans I can keep chips under 80c and fans under 3000 rpm.

note how exit chips are warmer.



below it fired up on low with custom 3000 rpm fans
the flow design I did seems to work on keeping chips cool

legendary
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Oh noes this is not fair... Does it use the same Xilinx controllers? Did he supply its own custom controller?

Yes, it does.

It cycles a bit when it tunes.

Older Avalons would do this. Some times they would boot every 2-4 hours or

It means fans pick up speed just a bit every 2-4 hours.

Phill, this is pretty normal, I ran a custom firmware on a few gears and some of them needed over 10 hours, some even need a whole day to actually stop rebooting, the reason why this happens is the fact that the step-down settings are set at minimum to ensure that you are getting the best of each chip, so even if 50 chips are lowered to the frequency they like and you are left with 1 chip that needs to go lower, say chip 5

chip no 5 > frequency 450 > run for 5 mins > collect results > bad > lower frequency to current frequency -1
chip no 5 > frequency 449 > run for 5 mins > collect results > bad > lower frequency to current frequency -1

sometimes a chip may only run well at say 350, so that's nearly a 100 steps-down if each reporting cycle needs 5 mins that's 400 mins or nearly 7 hours, and then eventually that bad chip might actually not like the voltage at all, and then voltage needs to be changed and the auto-tune starts all over again, so you should allow more time, let them tune for 24 hours, if they fail, then go with the lower settings.
legendary
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CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
this is the latest s9 thread and will stay open this is not bitmain hash boards.

the builder has asked me to not reveal whom he or she is.

this is more,effficient then bitmain gear.

i have a one board and a two board build.

Oh noes this is not fair... Does it use the same Xilinx controllers? Did he supply its own custom controller?

Will this mystery maker ever use the R4 form factor? Because that's a winner for a heat spreader right there...

Is this going to become commercially available for others?

I wonder what chips are those asics...
legendary
Activity: 4256
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two board run decent.

My issues so far are quiet. not efficient .  I can get 53 to 59 watts on different settings   which are within the specs I was given. 54 to 60. with 54 at the 450 freq setting.

The new fans come next week I will see what I can do.

I will also ask them for boards.



I did a different one board design. I have same shitty fans.

But my airflow  is working better it Seems good.

not very loud.

but nice temps

on middle setting.

6.3 th and 335watts.

the mod takes ten minutes.

it should be fire resistant.
legendary
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well when you can get more - i would be wanting 4 boards - I have 2 s9 cases would do 2 boards per case. the S9 boards I can sell or even donate to sidehack to use for his r606's maybe.
legendary
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I hope to do 1 board miners

that do 4.8 th at 266-286 watts

the three testing boards were sold to me for the shipping cost  about 60 USD from asia to USA no taxes due to cheap price.

If the new fans come and don't get lost with fedex I will have 3 fully operational next week.

I will also be talking with builder about purchase of boards in order to make more of these.

I have some very specific ideas on one board units I think I can mod inside of the s9 cases in a better way.

I would like to get the units to run at 500 or 550 freq

I have tested

freq
300 -------
350 ------- 228 watts and 4.1th good sound levels
400 ------- 266 watts and 4.8th good sound levels
450 ------- 291 watts and 5.3th a bit too loud
500 -------
550 -------
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