Topic: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - BECAUSE THE BLOCKCHAIN CAN BE BETTER - page 88. (Read 371170 times)

Try not to let them bait you biker.  Your are a figure on the XBY team and how you respond sends meaning to the greater audience and holds more weight.  If a personal slight happens take it to PM's.  It's been a long day I am sure and we all have our limits.  Don't take this as an offense I'm trying to keep the XBY team above dirt and grim of the FUD's.  Just keep pushing forward and soon the price and the tech will prove itself.

It's a figure of speech, meaning you're a brown nose/suck up. Ironically you're the one acting like the tough guy, from 1999.

Watch your language boy. U are so smart here because it is internet? Prefer to meet face to face and tell me same.
If u want to watch u can do it on exchanges dont need to write over and over same shit and stay in slack channel still.

It is same to you Fatoshi. Your language is this kind because u are on the internet. In real life u will not say same shit to my face.

I Brought a bunch today on Cryptopia, pretty interested in seeing where this projects goes. I think as a whole the project will be really amazing in the future so I'm holding mine for a long while.

I just want to see how this ship sinks.

I thought you sucked enough cock on Slack. Looking for some more here?

Ok respect to seniors, I am going...

Exactly if u want guys leave why u still here ? I dont get it ...

Hopefully meaningful resolutions can come from all this drama recently. I'd rather everyone spoke their concerns and get this sorted out ASAP rather than dwell on it. Also there's a lot of childish back on forths going on right now.

It would make a lot more sense if you continued to read past the first sentence.

XBY actually needs less of of the likes of you.

If you are out, what makes you stay here.

Fatoshi has been a XBY believer since the start. What does it tell you when a devoted investor finally leaves?

First post at Oct 3.30.45am

A person shows in the slack that he has bought XBY @15 sat and he is not not satisfied with the current price.
So he blames Ccr, question is how much profit in % he expect.
I have 15 million and then begging in the slack, you want to sell sell it who is stopping you ?
XBY will come to 10 sats, so I am not selling.
When you want to buy buy, when you want to sell sell it and this is the truth.
Truth hurts....
Writing on the forum nonsense, this is not a exchange.
Waiting for 7 months... nonsense. How much profit you expect ?

We are in early times.  There is always going to be a risk getting involved in a project at this stage.  There certainly is a bigger reward for those who get in now if when it succeeds.  But just like any investment there is a risk.  Infighting might effect the price now but as long as development continues the project will keep moving forward.

I want to like this project, I really do, it seems like it has great potential. But as you said I'm also concerned about the xfuel coming out of nowhere. Also this drama that is going on for days. It puts me on the fence about the project and its future.

It seems to me that the tokens are poorly distributed.  A small group controls most of the coins which they bought when the price was as low as 1 Sat.  Now there is in fighting among the group and everytime someone sells a portion of their coins, the price will sink due to the already low volume.

I keep hearing people tout that there was no ICO for this coin as if that's some kind of positive.  A well marketed ICO distributes the coin in a way that is 10x better.  The large bag holders like CCR should honestly just donate some of their funds and ask for community match to fund these initiatives.  It would only make the price go up and help their investment in the long term.  Creating new tokens is just compounding the problem imo.

Everyone can't hold their huge bags, and scratch their heads at why large investors aren't entering.   No big investors are going to buy into something for 100x more than what you paid b/c they will be scared that you will exit.  Especially b/c the project isn't open source and contingent on 1 person.  Alot of solid projects have had problems like this, like Byteball, bitbay etc.

The tech seems really promising and the potential is definitely there, but that can be said about a ton of projects that still haven't been able to take off.  Technology is only half the pie these days, with the amount of altcoins entering the market these days, it's management that's going to be the deciding factor.

Some will say i'm trying to fud, but honestly everything i've said is just common sense to anyone thats worked around business and technology.  

The problem is that we get one post in 4 or 5 pages of  negative posts that has actual concrete arguments that are based on the project with examples.  Most of this round and when xFuel was released just sounds like person problems that always happen when you are on a board(I've been on 4 boards in different business fields).  They are not providing any value just some magic about how they had some other path that would have led to profitibity.  They don't say what that path was or could be going forward.  Just we need to get rid of CCRev. 
If they actually cared about the coin and knew a better way they would provide us with a roadmap to actual success.  Instead they take the easy way out and do what you see on this thread and slack.  It is always easy to say we could do better its much harder to step up with actual ideas and plans.

Best post here. Agree

Great 5 cents! This is the kind of discussion that should be encouraged.

The problem has been certain individuals creating chaos, fudding, repeating the same thing over and over and personal attacks in one of the founders. These are the kind of people Biker was addressing I believe. If they no longer believe why are they still around? What motive do they have? Are they trolls who should be ignored?

One of these has multiple accounts here and on the slack. Claims to want to fix and help xby yet the more he talks the more he/she reveals themselves. I don't like getting into keyboard fights or arguments but this is something that needs to be called out.

Anyhow, great post. You raise some interesting points.

I know nothing about the argument inside the staff. Just interesting for me to get a little insight. Seems like many things have been dammed up, but the quarrel here might be (hopefully) a step into a direction, that clears up some troubles. That would be much better for the project than a current uncertainty, or a continuous, destructive fight inside the community. So please go ahead as long as everybody remains objective and factual.
(Possible?)

For me - as a total outsider - the line of reasoning from tjeff looks much better, than the one of bikerleszno, because to say (to obvious long term supporters), that they should sell their coins and leave the project behind is not only childish (what it absolutely is!) - it is more:
This provoking reaction tries to hide, that bikerlesznos answer misses any factual value. And it closes doors, which should better remained open in order to find through an objective discourse the best way for a prospering future for XtraBytes. For me it's alarming, how investors/supportes got treated here in a terse manner:

You have an other opinion?
Sell your coins and leave us alone!

You only have 20k?
You better shut up!

And XFuel... yes. Looks on these beautiful grafics nice, shiny, reasonable. But my first thought (which is already wandering through my head, persistantly):
Do we really need another coin?
Just doing the same trash like many other projects?
Printing money and making things more complicated?
Hm...

I am in crypto since march this year ... (Hey! Don't laugh!^^) ... but this short period was time enough for me to get deeply pissed off, when I read or hear about a second, third, ... coin-release from an already existing project. It offends hodlers and it frightens new investors in a world, which is complicated enough for newbies, or people, who don't want to step that deep into the matter like a dev or the hard core of the crypto-community. It is like a piece of tech: You want to use it, but you mostly don't want to understand exactly, how it works. And if you have the choice between a simple to operate piece of tech, or a difficult to operate one - which one would you choose (or invest in)?
Hm?


So please don't forget, where future money will come from - because it won't work without this fresh money. And yes: Releasing a new coin has a strong inherent taste of printing money, no matter how shiny the grafics are. You are scared of limiting the supply too much, because of the locked coins for the nodes? Lower the price for the nodes! To halve the price should have the same effect like releasing a new coin with equal supply. Inclusive saving time and work, what you could better spend on the projects core - instead of creating a new construction site with it.
But maybe I do not understand, just failing to see something important?
However...

tjeffs impartial criticism of the absence of transparency is true, as long as no comprehensible reason is claimed on why this secrecy is necessary. Beeing opaque is the most disqualifying factor for new and serious investors. Especially in such an early stage of a project, when trust is the most important thing of all.

I have been full of hope for XtraBytes. But after I have to read that (legimitate) critics should better sell their coins and leave, I'm just a bit thoughtful now. Because this statement shows nothing less than a deep lack of understatement in how the market works and how it works to lead a project to success: A project is nothing without investors. And less than nothing without investors who care. Nobody owns the whole truth about what is right or wrong. That's why a strong community with many ideas, suggestions, criticisms and many points of views is the key to success. You better should listen to each other, because you are dependent on each other -

... if the project XtraBytes is still important for you.


Just my five cents.
Regards!
McW