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long-winded circular rant about nothing


I just asked asked you if you believed Sandy Hook was a hoax or not. Do you believe it happened, or not?
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch...


ICYMI: 120 Christians Slaughtered By Muslim Herders In Nigeria - MEDIA SILENT



As media outlets across the world bring you the minute-by-minute updates of the Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand, those same outlets have been mostly silent on the recent mass slaughter of Christians in Nigeria by muslim herdsmen. Those attacks have resulted in 120 dead and 140 homes burned to the ground.

At least 120 people have been killed by alleged Fulani militant attacks since February in the Kaduna state of Nigeria with the latest attacks on Monday resulting in the deaths of over 50 and the destruction of more than 140 homes.

On Monday, 52 people were killed, dozens injured and around 143 homes were destroyed in attacks on the villages of Inkirimi, Dogonnoma and Ungwan Gora in the Maro district of the Kajuru Local Government Area, according to Christian Solidarity Worldwide.

The Monday attack followed an attack on Sunday in the Ungwan Barde village in Kajuru in which 17 people were killed and dozens of homes were burned.

In late February, there was another attack in Maro that resulted in the deaths of about 38 Christians and saw homes and a church burned. On Feb. 10, 10 people were killed in an attack in Ungwan Barde as six others were killed in isolated attacks the day before.

CSW, a United Nations-recognized NGO that advocates for persecuted Christians worldwide, reports that victims in the attacks on Monday included women and children. Survivors told the nonprofit that the attackers were separated into three groups. One group shot and killed people, the second set fire to buildings, and a third ran after people fleeing the scene.

Nigeria ranks as the 12th worst country in the world when it comes to Christian persecution, according to Open Doors USA's 2019 World Watch List.

In 2018 alone, thousands of Christians were killed by militant Fulani herdsmen, leaving some to say that genocide is occurring in the Middle Belt of Nigeria.

Kaduna state is not alone in suffering from Fulani violence as other states in the Middle Belt have faced it too.

On March 4, Fulani militants in the Benue state reportedly attacked three villages, killing 23 people with bullets and machetes, according to International Christian Concern."

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legendary
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Won't happen in the U.S. as I said earlier, and the guy is only talking about "increased rights" in New Zealand. If a mass shooting happens on this scale, it is only natural to re-evaluate gun a nation's gun laws. He sure did push them along, you and him are right about that.

As for censorship, it seems you are completely mistaken and pulled that out of your ass. Don't let me get in the way of standing between reality and beliefs you already held before the shooting happened, however.

Also it sounds like you largely agree with the shooter in his manifesto by quoting it in the manner which you did. If not, why would you quote the bits about "they had long lost their cities"...? Only a dangerous fringe actually believe in that sort of talk.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/nz-threatens-10-years-prison-possessing-mosque-shooting-video-web-hosts-warned

These victims aren't even in the ground yet and this event is already being used to push expanded censorship and removal of gun ownership rights. This is how the boa constrictor of incrementalist totalitarianism works people... piles of bodies are just another day at work for the people who play these "games".

These victims aren't even in the ground and you are already chalking their deaths up to a great conspiracy that only exists in the minds of the severely deluded.

By any chance, are you one of those "Sandy Hook was a hoax" guys?



"won't happen in the US" Well shit I am relieved now, because you are such an expert on things and you say it will never happen.

I guess I can ignore the fact that thousands of people across the US are already unconstitutionally having their guns seized without due process under so called "red flag" laws which essentially amount to having no rights since anyone (including police) can accuse you of being unstable and have their guns confiscated. Also I guess I don't have to worry about politicians openly pushing confiscation now, or national gun registries, or places like California where law abiding gun owners can become felons over night.

ITS OK EVERYONE! NUTILDUH SAYS IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!


Increased rights in New Zealand? Before you start making all these proclamations about what or wasn't said, maybe you should learn to read first.

So The People's Republic of China is the social structure he says he most associates with, but he doesn't want censorship, gun confiscation, or totalitarianism? If you had an active brain stem and were capable of reading and then examining the material critically, you would see that the shooter has a firm grasp on the process of the Hegelian Dialectic. That is again, thesis + antithesis = synthesis. He said very clearly he intended to create divisions and accelerate conflict to a civil war in the West.

You don't think censorship of all the dissidents he mentioned in his manifest will accomplish said division and reaction? You don't think people are just as willing to defend free speech with their lives? I am sorry you have such a simple mind, but I didn't just pull anything "out of my ass".



"Also it sounds like you largely agree with the shooter in his manifesto by quoting it in the manner which you did. If not, why would you quote the bits about "they had long lost their cities"...? Only a dangerous fringe actually believe in that sort of talk. "

And here we are, the point in your pathetic little retort where you attempt to associate me with the shooter because I quoted what he said. It is much easier to just try to say I am a nut rather than form a logical response to anything I have presented. Especially when you are incapable of forming a logical response. Funny, it seems that same line you didn't even read right is also your basis for claiming I agree with him. The usual high standards I expect from Nutilduh.


Once again, with lack of argument, you move directly to the personal attacks and attempts at guilt by manufactured association. Without any real argument you must again resort to trying to label me as a"Sandy Hook denier" because anything else would require a thought process that you do not have the mental capacity to handle. You are a simple creature, that is why these simple tricks work on you. Fortunately everyone is not as simple minded as you are and can see when things don't add up.

Two guys planning to rob a 7-11 is a conspiracy. Two or more people planning any crime is a conspiracy. A conspiracy is legal terminology for a crime, and conspiracies happen every day. This shooting was a conspiracy by anyones definition, but again I know you are a simple minded creature and think "conspiracy" is synonymous with "hoax only crazy people believe". Anything else would require more thought than you have the capacity to undertake.


legendary
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They don't know common law down there. The position that government is trying to hide public news is deplorable.


NZ Threatens 10 Years In Prison For 'Possessing' Mosque Shooting Video...



Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.

Terrorist Brenton Tarrant used Facebook Live to broadcast the first 17 minutes of his attack on the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand at approximately 1:40 p.m. on Friday - the first of two mosque attacks which left 50 dead and 50 injured.

Copies of Tarrant's livestream, along with his lengthy manifesto, began to rapidly circulate on various file hosting sites following the attack, which as we noted Friday - were quickly scrubbed from mainstream platforms such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Scribd. YouTube has gone so far as to intentionally disable search filters so that people cannot find Christchurch shooting materials - including footage of suspected multiple shooters as well as the arrest of Tarrant and other suspects.


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legendary
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People would change profile pics, light candles, form a circle and pray, rinse, repeat. Same with Orlando, Paris, etc.

They'll make these gestures but people never learn. They still allow mentally unstable people to have easy access to guns. They still allow fundamentalist groups of every flavor platform for propagating their message.

Congratulations on reacting exactly the way the shooter hoped you would by pushing censorship and gun control.

That's not what the shooter hoped. Things the shooter "pushed:"

- White supremacy
- Immigrants as invaders
- War on all Muslims

Selective censorship and gun control are a sensible reaction to the shooting. Despite your earlier claims otherwise, New Zealand had relatively lax restrictions on gun ownership up until a few days ago. They will likely follow in the footsteps of Australia, which banned guns after their last massacre, and hasn't had one since.

As usual you claim authority on subjects you know nothing about.

Quotes from the shooter's manifesto:

"Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states?
Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time.

Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights in the New Zealand?

The gun owners of New Zealand are a beaten, miserable bunch of baby boomers, who have long since given up the fight. When was the last time they won increased rights? Their loss was inevitable. I just accelerated things a bit. They had long since lost their cities, take a look at Auckland. Did you really expect they would not also lose their rights?"

"With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines."

"The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the
People’s Republic of China.

Won't happen in the U.S. as I said earlier, and the guy is only talking about "increased rights" in New Zealand. If a mass shooting happens on this scale, it is only natural to re-evaluate gun a nation's gun laws. He sure did push them along, you and him are right about that.

As for censorship, it seems you are completely mistaken and pulled that out of your ass. Don't let me get in the way of standing between reality and beliefs you already held before the shooting happened, however.

Also it sounds like you largely agree with the shooter in his manifesto by quoting it in the manner which you did. If not, why would you quote the bits about "they had long lost their cities"...? Only a dangerous fringe actually believe in that sort of talk.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/nz-threatens-10-years-prison-possessing-mosque-shooting-video-web-hosts-warned

These victims aren't even in the ground yet and this event is already being used to push expanded censorship and removal of gun ownership rights. This is how the boa constrictor of incrementalist totalitarianism works people... piles of bodies are just another day at work for the people who play these "games".

These victims aren't even in the ground and you are already chalking their deaths up to a great conspiracy that only exists in the minds of the severely deluded.

By any chance, are you one of those "Sandy Hook was a hoax" guys?
legendary
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One radical islamist guy shooted 7 people in Holland. I said I’m Turk, European countries are following a very wrong policy. We don't even want to live with radical Islamists.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PolitieUtrecht/status/110763210578011340
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Hmm it seems that everything is going to what he wanted us to go.

If this was the original plan, then if it is successful which is actually going there, a bigger plan might just be waiting  hmm this made me realize that "maybe" this person is just being paid by an organization for them to do what they wanted to do so?
legendary
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People would change profile pics, light candles, form a circle and pray, rinse, repeat. Same with Orlando, Paris, etc.

They'll make these gestures but people never learn. They still allow mentally unstable people to have easy access to guns. They still allow fundamentalist groups of every flavor platform for propagating their message.

Congratulations on reacting exactly the way the shooter hoped you would by pushing censorship and gun control.

That's not what the shooter hoped. Things the shooter "pushed:"

- White supremacy
- Immigrants as invaders
- War on all Muslims

Selective censorship and gun control are a sensible reaction to the shooting. Despite your earlier claims otherwise, New Zealand had relatively lax restrictions on gun ownership up until a few days ago. They will likely follow in the footsteps of Australia, which banned guns after their last massacre, and hasn't had one since.

This whole thing is completely fake.  They are all actors, you got duped and just watched another bullshit hollywood scene so they can put in laws to take our guns away.
You sure what you're saying?

No, he's not. And he should relax: nobody is taking America's guns away, even if they should.


As usual you claim authority on subjects you know nothing about.

Quotes from the shooter's manifesto:

"Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states?
Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time.

Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights in the New Zealand?

The gun owners of New Zealand are a beaten, miserable bunch of baby boomers, who have long since given up the fight. When was the last time they won increased rights? Their loss was inevitable. I just accelerated things a bit. They had long since lost their cities, take a look at Auckland. Did you really expect they would not also lose their rights?"


"With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines."

"The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the
People’s Republic of China."

https://observer.news/assets/The-Great-Replacement.pdf

His entire MO is to create conflict by triggering a reaction. Some will cry we need more gun control and censorship. Others will die before letting that happen. You are literally advocating for exactly what he intended to happen.

This manifesto was a meticulously created piece of psychological warfare designed to radicalize the maximum numbers of people, while getting them to beg for removal of freedoms, and impugn the most effective voices of dissent by associating himself with them. This was a state level psychological operation 100%


"easy access to guns"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_New_Zealand#Current_firearms_law

Looks pretty restrictive to me, including mental health screening, but the answer is never to reach an end goal for gun control pushers, it is always just "more", regardless of how ineffective it is.
legendary
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People would change profile pics, light candles, form a circle and pray, rinse, repeat. Same with Orlando, Paris, etc.

They'll make these gestures but people never learn. They still allow mentally unstable people to have easy access to guns. They still allow fundamentalist groups of every flavor platform for propagating their message.

Congratulations on reacting exactly the way the shooter hoped you would by pushing censorship and gun control.

That's not what the shooter hoped. Things the shooter "pushed:"

- White supremacy
- Immigrants as invaders
- War on all Muslims

Selective censorship and gun control are a sensible reaction to the shooting. Despite your earlier claims otherwise, New Zealand had relatively lax restrictions on gun ownership up until a few days ago. They will likely follow in the footsteps of Australia, which banned guns after their last massacre, and hasn't had one since.

This whole thing is completely fake.  They are all actors, you got duped and just watched another bullshit hollywood scene so they can put in laws to take our guns away.
You sure what you're saying?

No, he's not. And he should relax: nobody is taking America's guns away, even if they should.
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While watching the video, I can't imagine what's on the mind of the terrorist.

Condolences to the victims and right judgement shall be done with the incident. I felt bad and anger when the terrorist wasn't done with his havoc, he kept shooting innocent people while driving his car.  Undecided



I don't think it's good idea to watch such videos.
Something like this can really hurt and damage your spirit and mind.
Yes, we can just feel bad about it but it seems as individuals we can't do much to stop it.
It should be action on the global level.
I don't have the intention of watching that video but it just popped on my newsfeed so then I watched it because of the caption and the number of views.

Really heart breaking!!!  Cry

Most videos were all deleted by video sharing and social network sites.

This whole thing is completely fake.  They are all actors, you got duped and just watched another bullshit hollywood scene so they can put in laws to take our guns away.
You sure what you're saying?
legendary
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People would change profile pics, light candles, form a circle and pray, rinse, repeat. Same with Orlando, Paris, etc.

They'll make these gestures but people never learn. They still allow mentally unstable people to have easy access to guns. They still allow fundamentalist groups of every flavor platform for propagating their message.

Congratulations on reacting exactly the way the shooter hoped you would by pushing censorship and gun control.
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People would change profile pics, light candles, form a circle and pray, rinse, repeat. Same with Orlando, Paris, etc.

They'll make these gestures but people never learn. They still allow mentally unstable people to have easy access to guns. They still allow fundamentalist groups of every flavor platform for propagating their message.
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Looks like the video got scrubbed from the net. Can't find it anywhere.   So many people dead wow  Sad

In fact, some countries have already criminalize the (re)distribution of it.
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While watching the video, I can't imagine what's on the mind of the terrorist.

Condolences to the victims and right judgement shall be done with the incident. I felt bad and anger when the terrorist wasn't done with his havoc, he kept shooting innocent people while driving his car.  Undecided



I don't think it's good idea to watch such videos.
Something like this can really hurt and damage your spirit and mind.
Yes, we can just feel bad about it but it seems as individuals we can't do much to stop it.
It should be action on the global level.


I did not believed the videos until in the end I see that guy's face. It look to me some kind of recorded game of counterstrike that I used to play.
If watching video can damage spirit and mind then what you will say about all the games that are full of voilence?
Are all gamers now have distorted  mind?



That sick-minded, terrorist and criminal person bases all his actions on the game "Call Of Duty" brought him to reality.
I also can not imagine that it could happen through the mind of someone like that, where it does everything as if it were executing with honor, it is something that those people of high sensibility should not see.
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While watching the video, I can't imagine what's on the mind of the terrorist.

Condolences to the victims and right judgement shall be done with the incident. I felt bad and anger when the terrorist wasn't done with his havoc, he kept shooting innocent people while driving his car.  Undecided



I don't think it's good idea to watch such videos.
Something like this can really hurt and damage your spirit and mind.
Yes, we can just feel bad about it but it seems as individuals we can't do much to stop it.
It should be action on the global level.


I did not believed the videos until in the end I see that guy's face. It look to me some kind of recorded game of counterstrike that I used to play.
If watching video can damage spirit and mind then what you will say about all the games that are full of voilence?
Are all gamers now have distorted  mind?

legendary
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While watching the video, I can't imagine what's on the mind of the terrorist.

Condolences to the victims and right judgement shall be done with the incident. I felt bad and anger when the terrorist wasn't done with his havoc, he kept shooting innocent people while driving his car.  Undecided



I don't think it's good idea to watch such videos.
Something like this can really hurt and damage your spirit and mind.
Yes, we can just feel bad about it but it seems as individuals we can't do much to stop it.
It should be action on the global level.
legendary
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/nz-threatens-10-years-prison-possessing-mosque-shooting-video-web-hosts-warned

These victims aren't even in the ground yet and this event is already being used to push expanded censorship and removal of gun ownership rights. This is how the boa constrictor of incrementalist totalitarianism works people... piles of bodies are just another day at work for the people who play these "games".

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/evidence-indicates-link-between-north-korean-embassy-break-and-christchurch-attacks

I am not the only one who finds this narrative suspect... this is going to be the pattern from now on folks, escalating violence in an attempt to get the population to beg to have their freedoms taken in exchange for empty promises of safety. This is Hegelian dialectic 101. Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
legendary
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I’m Turk and I live in Turkey. I don't understand why Europeans accept non-white and muslim refugees in their own countries. My grandfather was a soldier in the Ottoman Empire. Sometimes we don't even want to live with some radical Muslims. They don’t respect your culture and live their culture in your country. If you don’t want to live like Europeans, why did you immigrate to Europe. And know that. When they raise population of muslims in your country, they want to change your life style. Stop accepting non-white or radical refugees. Such attacks are just the beginning. It is sad but different cultures can’t live together. Defend Europe

The strange thing is that when innocents are killed in places of worship
You leave the murderer and look for the known scarecrow illusion
(Radical Islamists)
This terrorist killer you does not consider him a radical Christian?
You seem to have a problem with the Islamists in general and want them to give up their identity
They live like secularists or Christians, for example, and this is impossible
Everyone can live in peace as long as the ideas of acceptance of the other and dialogue of civilizations prevail
Not the clash of civilizations


Firstly, we are not talking about killer.
Secondly, why should I talk about radical Christians? They already live in Europe.

Don't distort what I say. We are not talking about Islam, we are talking about Radical Islamists. I say this as a Turkish. We do not even want to live together with radical Islamists in Turkey. The main problem here is that different cultures cannot live together.

Plenty of Muslims move to Western nations and assimilate. They are not the enemy of Western nations. Even if they choose to not assimilate, really no one cares, they are free to live their lives that way even in Western nations. What IS the problem is Sharia law, and Muslims who move to Western nations and try to impose Sharia law. Sharia law is incompatible with freedom and Democracy. Sharia law is a political system wearing a veil of religion to hide behind.

Its true. 2% of people want sharia in Turkey(isis supporters). This is a big problem for us. 2% seems like low, but not. No joke with radical Islamists. When they gain power, they attack you. 1 christian maniac killed 49 people. 1.68M radical maniacs may kill 82.32M people.
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I saw the video of London's Sadiq Khan condemning the attack. Moving but then I remembered his infamous "...Part and parcel of living in a big city" quote.

And that's what it is, part and parcel of living in a city. The more people there are, the more likely you'd encounter criminals and nutjobs.
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