Hi Tim,
I remembered you applied in my thread and failed. Today you posted it but I don't see what I wrote hurts human or someone. It is truth.
Because of your post, I am curious and check you post history. I see you always quote full posts or OPs when you replied. It is not good because most of time I reply to only a small point in a long post, I guess you and others do the same.
Quote the points you want to discuss with authors, do not quote all.
Topic: Newbies are free to choose the journey they will go - page 2. (Read 989 times)
I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.
I chose to focus my time on the forum with security and privacy and wallet's features and usages. You can see it in my first thread I created to ask about Brave browser - What's wrong with Brave browser?. Unfortunately, because of privacy problems I stopped using the browser months ago.
Bitcoin Core's prune node. Please help to use it safely.
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Check links with Virustotal. False positive results, how much they are?
Good topics on security and privacy
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Visiting official websites and download official apps, not fake ones.
There are some threads not belong to my main concerns.
A new group of scammers, make topics with phishing links. Please nuke them.
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If you are newbies, now choose your journey and your interested areas you want to go with.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.
I chose to focus my time on the forum with security and privacy and wallet's features and usages. You can see it in my first thread I created to ask about Brave browser - What's wrong with Brave browser?. Unfortunately, because of privacy problems I stopped using the browser months ago.
Bitcoin Core's prune node. Please help to use it safely.
Warning when transaction fee exceeds sent amount for bitcoin wallets?
Check links with Virustotal. False positive results, how much they are?
Good topics on security and privacy
Authentication: Types, Risks/ Attacks, Advice
Visiting official websites and download official apps, not fake ones.
There are some threads not belong to my main concerns.
A new group of scammers, make topics with phishing links. Please nuke them.
Find your managers
Overview on DeFi - a new hot trend in crypto
If you are newbies, now choose your journey and your interested areas you want to go with.
I think I fall into two specifications on the list of what to choose first am a hunter and secondly I am possibly helping people to understand Crypto and other things relevant to Crypto out of Bitcointalk forum as a whole. So to say as for the rest two I believe most members on this forum has their heart at the back of their mind. Enjoying hurting other humans intentionally.
If only newbies will stop and roam around and start reading all the important threads here in this section he will not go astray and will develop into good posters but unfortunately, some of these newbies go straight into the bounty campaigns and become spammers of this forum.
I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
Many of them started as a spammer and as bounty hunters, their motivation is to make money they just learned that they need to contribute and be good members if they want the cooperation of people here and they want to have respects coming from other posters and managers,
if Bitcointalk is your first forum you need to take your time to read a lot before making your presence felt,it's better that they felt your presence as a contributor and not as a spammer or bounty hunter only.
I agree with you.
Many new members have already been kicked out of this forum due to spam and others have learned the rules and become valuable members of the community.
I am always for giving a second chance if a new member realizes his mistakes and has changed.
I think the big problem is that a lot of new members don’t understand enough English and don’t have experience with online forums.
It is so much better if newcomers chosen to a journey where they could learn a lot from steps that they take.
Knowledge is very important as we continue our journey.
It will help us to decide what's the best thing to do and/or what should we not do.
Also do not rush things, just take it slowly and you'll see constant progress.
Knowledge is very important as we continue our journey.
It will help us to decide what's the best thing to do and/or what should we not do.
Also do not rush things, just take it slowly and you'll see constant progress.
I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.
As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.
Many of them started as a spammer and as bounty hunters, their motivation is to make money they just learned that they need to contribute and be good members if they want the cooperation of people here and they want to have respects coming from other posters and managers,
if Bitcointalk is your first forum you need to take your time to read a lot before making your presence felt,it's better that they felt your presence as a contributor and not as a spammer or bounty hunter only.
Almost everyone in the forum aims and hopes to profit from the forum in terms of currency either digital or it's equivalent. Hence, any newbie who discovers the bounty section of the forum is so tempted that, it takes a newbie with a concrete idea of the forum and with a purpose to escape this temptation. I was tempted once but got advised and inspired from the good people of this forum, learnt from their many available articles and personal observation of the journey to the top. Now, I'm getting enthusiastic on forging ahead and it's such a great feeling.
Choose right and devote your energy to learning first.
Choose right and devote your energy to learning first.
<...> Is it alright to bump a thread? I think there are rules for this. Mostly it happens on advertising or promotional activities like in those market place or ann threads. However, I have seen few times here that there are users bumping their own threads in this section. <…>
This is what the unofficial rules state on the matter:
<…> 13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. <…> [2][e]
<…> 21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2] <…>
<…> 13. According to a personal message from the head admin, theymos:
There is therefore a spirit behind the bumping procedure, and the overall effect, within the above limitations, should be something bearable and seemingly justified. If someone bumps a thread on Beginners & Help it would be an atypical event, and probably uncalled for. If many people went on to doing it, it would be unbearable, and tighter rules would have to be set (or the new bumping scheme extended to other boards).<…> 21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2] <…>
<…> 13. According to a personal message from the head admin, theymos:
The strong guideline is 1 bump per 24 hours per thread. Additionally, bumps should not be annoying, which needs to be determined subjectively. If a user bumps 10 threads every day, that's annoying. If a user bumps 3 threads at the same time for some good reason, then this may not be annoying.
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Is it alright to bump a thread? I think there are rules for this. Mostly it happens on advertising or promotional activities like in those market place or ann threads. However, I have seen few times here that there are users bumping their own threads in this section. Anyway, this thread is helpful by the way and it is also good for the newbie to see it as an awareness in this forum. They may be here for a different reason but at least they are aware of the users here. Being cautious is better than being careless. Accepting Newbies and Jr Members in sig campaigns and bounties is a mistake from the beginning to the end.
I think all forum member will agree with you except scammers because a maximum number of Newbie and Jr member are doing spam in a regular basis.I saw many newbies using high rank username to scam in all good Bounties and in forum.
That's why forum is getting polluted day by day.
All Bounty managers should take steps properly.Then something good can be happened.
Majority that spam in this forum are mostly newbies and few of the junior members. Due to the high rate of spamming from newbies and junior members, a good number of bounty project no longer accept them to join their signature campaign. The only accept the high ranked members.
Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay
Accepting Newbies and Jr Members in sig campaigns and bounties is a mistake from the beginning to the end. That opens up a big door for spammers or alts to be able to join in - the campaigns such as 777Coin and Bitvest have had to cope with these things for a while now, and from time to time there still are sockpuppets/alts that are found to be cheating. I can't even imagine what a bounty manager has to deal with most of the times - I'd bet +30% of the bounty participants are cheating as we speak.Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay
Increasing the minimum entry rank leads to newer members understanding better what this forum is about. The sad thing is, most bounty participants are spammers desperately dropping replies anywhere on the forum just to fulfill as many bounty requests as possible. As you say, being a decent member and trying your best to be better opens up a lot of doors and opportunities for you. Newbies choosing the spammy/scammy way will most likely regret it at one point in the future anyway.
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New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.
New members are always asking things like how to make money in this forum, how to raise rankings etc., it is a natural thing if I look at it from a beginner's perspective. We only need to provide feedback in the form of suggestions and advice to make him know what is more important and needed by this forum. Make quality posts, how to contribute well and more. The inability of beginners to rise in rank due to lack of education, lack of reading and learning the rules in this forum. New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.
Majority that spam in this forum are mostly newbies and few of the junior members. Due to the high rate of spamming from newbies and junior members, a good number of bounty project no longer accept them to join their signature campaign. The only accept the high ranked members.
Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay
Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay
A beginner should know what they want to do in this forum. As members who have been around for a long time in this forum, we must tell them that being a good member is more profitable, but it requires patience to build an account from the beginning.
This is not wrong but not only to be patient but patient is one of the keys to be one of the good members of the forum, you have worked hard (diligence) and also optimistic, these should be included too, these qualities are what most members should acquire. New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.
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I think if they can make these two things balanced then there wont be a problem to solve. Getting income from promoting sites on the "signature campaign" forum can also be categorized as a form of bonus for those who contribute. But in reality we can see that there are very many bounty participant who are signature spammer on various board and that is totally useless for forum and users. There is a wrong perception about them and that must be able to change and start learning to be a good user.
Doing both things in a balanced way will be very difficult to do when their position is still a beginner and do not know what the function of this forum really is. What they know is that this forum is a place to make money by collecting bitcoin and following bounty and airdrop campaigns. Signature spammers are not beginners. They have many accounts whose purpose is indeed to get a lot of income using multiple accounts and that they have set. A beginner should know what they want to do in this forum. As members who have been around for a long time in this forum, we must tell them that being a good member is more profitable, but it requires patience to build an account from the beginning. I think if they can make these two things balanced then there wont be a problem to solve. Getting income from promoting sites on the "signature campaign" forum can also be categorized as a form of bonus for those who contribute. But in reality we can see that there are very many bounty participant who are signature spammer on various board and that is totally useless for forum and users. There is a wrong perception about them and that must be able to change and start learning to be a good user.
Some of the newbies right now are having a struggle which field they want to make more exist because not all the time we are gifted once that has all the talent and have good and great skills in the particular field
For example a gambler and want to share their knowledge of gambling and want to learn more but they see some merit came from the other member which is mostly getting to the trading discussion some of them want to push their selves just to learn to trade and want to earn merits for example. It is better to focus on the thing you are good with because soon the time wi shine to you not right now but soon.
For example a gambler and want to share their knowledge of gambling and want to learn more but they see some merit came from the other member which is mostly getting to the trading discussion some of them want to push their selves just to learn to trade and want to earn merits for example. It is better to focus on the thing you are good with because soon the time wi shine to you not right now but soon.
If you asked me what the rules are I'm pretty sure I couldn't quote you a single one. Over time enough etiquette has sunk in and the others I've seen mentioned seem like common sense more than anything.
When I first arrived here this forum had newbie jail which meant you were restricted to post only in one section for newbies only. You had to do a certain numbers of posts over a certain period of time to get out of it.
The management seems verry resistent to reinstating that but it might be helpful to the state of the forum and those who can bothered to stick around long enough to get out of it.
Of course, I am sure everything will be fine when we want to focus on studying it seriously. We all have to learn something gradually and this is the beginner to grow into a good user in the forum. Strongly agree with your statement, when we want to try to spend a little time here then there will be a different feeling. When I first arrived here this forum had newbie jail which meant you were restricted to post only in one section for newbies only. You had to do a certain numbers of posts over a certain period of time to get out of it.
The management seems verry resistent to reinstating that but it might be helpful to the state of the forum and those who can bothered to stick around long enough to get out of it.
Being a beginner today may be very different from the beginner of your day. The merit system currently in place in the forum has forced them to do their best to post quality thing. Without quality posts they will never be able to move up the rankings and they will get many restrictions as a consequence.
Fortunately at this time beginner will never find it difficult to get merit if they want to because the forum never lack knowledge and direction from contributors that will help them grow. Its just that everything depends on themselves. I want to grow because I want to do it, and so do they. If they want then everything might come true.
It is very appropriate that those who are beginner are those who are very confused to start something right without making mistakes. Generally they will be very confused when they first get to know the forum and usually their first post here is a question.
When I was a beginner, I didnt even know what to do here before I got direction from other member. I began to ask them what to do. It is impossible for a beginner to be people who have a very good understanding of the rules and procedures of the forum correctly and if there are, I think they are not true beginner and they are someone alt.
When I was a beginner, I didnt even know what to do here before I got direction from other member. I began to ask them what to do. It is impossible for a beginner to be people who have a very good understanding of the rules and procedures of the forum correctly and if there are, I think they are not true beginner and they are someone alt.
If you asked me what the rules are I'm pretty sure I couldn't quote you a single one. Over time enough etiquette has sunk in and the others I've seen mentioned seem like common sense more than anything.
When I first arrived here this forum had newbie jail which meant you were restricted to post only in one section for newbies only. You had to do a certain numbers of posts over a certain period of time to get out of it.
The management seems verry resistent to reinstating that but it might be helpful to the state of the forum and those who can bothered to stick around long enough to get out of it.
Beginners have different motivation to join this forum.
If they join this forum in order to learn more about btc, technology etc. than I think others will be happy to support them with answers, advices, merits...
It's obvious that many new members join this forum with only one motivation, to earn some btc.
Of course that such new members can't expect support and help from other members.
We freely choose our way.
yes you are right, in this forum we are free to choose our own path. I also do not want to be hypocritical about the initial reason to join this forum because I want to get BTC and money from BTC sales obtained from various campaigns and airdrops. what I mean by members who deserve help is qualified beginner members and not concerned with how to get a lot of btc, but they also have a good contribution in this forum. The initial motivation of beginners who just want to get BTC is a general motivation that will occur to some or most beginners, it's still very reasonable.If they join this forum in order to learn more about btc, technology etc. than I think others will be happy to support them with answers, advices, merits...
It's obvious that many new members join this forum with only one motivation, to earn some btc.
Of course that such new members can't expect support and help from other members.
We freely choose our way.
Of course there is nothing wrong with wanting to earn some bitcoin.
The most important thing is actually the approach and attitude.
I will always be happy to help new members when I see that they have a sincere desire to learn something and if they don't spam the forum, even if their main motivation for registering on this forum is actually earning bitcoin.
But if new members don’t read the rules and spam other members, for personal gain, then that’s not acceptable and I won’t support that.
That's true, we are only responsible for ourselves, whatever we want to be, we will be as long as we really want it or we put effort to achieve it. If you want to be scammers, which is a bad thing for you, then you can be, you are only showing that you cannot do something to earn money, you are only relying on other people, you are doing bad things just to make money, do you think that it is worth it? Do you make money from other people?
If you want to be a good bitcoin, you should be hardworking and always keep learning, you may do a reading which is what I always do to learn new things, just read on some legit websites, article or even in this forum, it is really helpful of gaining good knowledge.
If you want to be a good bitcoin, you should be hardworking and always keep learning, you may do a reading which is what I always do to learn new things, just read on some legit websites, article or even in this forum, it is really helpful of gaining good knowledge.
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