Topic: Newbies are not Scums.... Learning is a Process and it's progressive. (Read 800 times)

I am totally agree with you.Newbie here want learn more an more.Bitcoin is a big platform.Bitcoin market is always up down condition.Also have many technical issues.when come a new they want to know so many things.Also if he/se know anything they also share in this Forum.

Hey if you must know this forum gives everyone equal rights and no one should intimidate you for any reason in as much as you know what you are doing then fine. Accept that you don't know it all and allow those who claims to know what you don't rub mess on themselves, what you need is to keep short while they are talking and learn from them until you noticed they are out of point then you can then bring the one you know is good for you.
Usually I have learned from many people here and that doesn't mean that don't know what they are doing and there are few people i do love reading their post because it's educative.

Not only newbies, everyone in this life need to treated with kindness and sympathy.
This life is full of lessons. It has taught a lot of people great and memorable lessons. irrespective of where you might found your self, try and be tolerance, generous and sympathetic. If one feels so powerful today, he or she should remember, time is more powerful than he or she thinks. when it's comes, it would be more understood. So if one knows about all of these, it will be better to be cautious of consequences of maltreatment.
Being it a newbie, jnr member or hero we should try and rearrange our character towards others especially those that are thought to be more inferior.
we should bear it in mind that things done to us can be forgiven but not all things are forgotten.


Is good to be good all the time. I think for someone to be happy and have rest of mind, one should not take things personal in life. Be confident in what you do and don't feel intimidated. Even when you feel that someone is trying to intimidate you.  Just maintain your focus and keep moving.Not how far but how best. The end always justifies who you are.
Don't look down on anyone,seek help when you feel like doing so. Is not good for one to treat another person badly especially when you feel like life favours you because life is said to be rotating. Sometimes it turns in favor of you whereby sometimes it turns against you.

I'm a newbie and absolutely we aren't scums, we're all here to learn and get motivated. And I've gone through the rules and guidelines on this forum and I know what to say and where not to be post. They should be kind with the newbies because everybody here pass through the way we're now we should all help ourselves because we the newbies are here to learn. I won't lie to you but ever since i got registered here I've made progress in some aspects concerning Bitcoin investment and some trends news also. They always say that " you can't plant a tree and grows the sameday and without watering it, it won't grow well" so we the newbies are here to accomplish what makes us to be here indefinitely. People battling with the newbies please stop because we're not scums.

Nobody is here to make an attack with anyone neither we are here to improve more with our life's and to know more about what we want to invest with our lifetime.

For me I respect everyone on here both the newbies, member, jr members, s members etc. because they all pass through newbies and i see them like my mentors in every way. I know their are good people on here that also love seeing the newbies starting because it gives them joy, the majority of people here are nice but let not the other once poisoned the heart of the good one's here. And what I understand is that being a newbie it's not that we don't have knowledge but it's because we haven't gotten to the rank of the other higher ones on here. So let's treat ourselves as a human and by the end of the day we all learn from each other's and by the way there's no disrespecting the newbies here because they're going to grow like other ones as well. I've always keep wondering why would they keep attacking the Newbies? Do they mean that they don't want anyone on here any longer? For me I'm here to achieve and learn more about Bitcoin so that by the end of the day I can boost that I know where my investment and income is going. So let's be nice with everyone newbie on here we're all here to learn, because learning is a process and it's progressive without learning you won't know nothing.

Newbies absolutely, unequivocally are not ‘scums.’ All of us here on this forum were newbies at some time. Time registered on this forum does not give you any kind of status or deserving of more respect than anybody else. We should all be pleasant to & respect newbies, we should be willing to provide help & assistance to anybody new who requires it. The majority of people here are good people, being a newbie should not discourage you from participating in conversation & debate.

Can you show us with an example on when and where you got attacked as a newbie for posting what is required of you to do, no one attacks each other here, we rather encourage the newbies to learn and grow, give recommendations and refer them to the right path to take as a beginner, but any newbie receiving attacks from other members here isn't doing the right thing, such could be that he is a spammer, troller or scammer.

You are correct because everyone in this forum was once a newbie and we don't have to act like we have not been a newbie before which is one of the reasons why we need to make sure we help people that are coming up in the forum.
This might not be an easy stage now that getting merits could be very difficult for us not like the way it used to be before.
One needs to be prepared to work and make good posts to be able to get merits.

Everybody or almost everybody pass through same thing you are passing right now so don't see it as a big deal or take it to heart and I am 100 percent sure that it's not everybody that is criticizing or belittling you here, even outside this place there are people who criticize and belittle others forgetting they have been in that position before that's human for you but the ability for you not to take those criticism to heart will help you grow that's tolerance, you need that characteristic to grow in anywhere you find yourself.

No one is born learning anything. Time and practice help you learn. No one here on the forum became obsolete as soon as they entered the forum. Everyone was newbie at one time. Then slowly through his own actions, he grew in his own position with data. Also I don't think anyone on the forum called newbies dirty. Every person in the world has a different nature. Maybe the other person didn't like the fact that you discussed something new. Since there are different types of people in the forum, you would expect good behavior from everyone, which is not true. You manage a variety of posts and discussions as your own. Surely you will get promoted and become old at some point.

Indeed, everyone joined the forum for different reasons, and no one can be unfairly judged for their own reasons. The forum is large enough to accommodate everyone, but what you post and how you contribute here will define how others perceive you, so it's important to take the time to fully understand things before participating in the forum. Bitcointalk is not an office for anyone, rather, it is a place for discussion and education regarding bitcoin. Although, the information obtained here can be used to create wealth.


Can you show us a post where you are not wrong and someone just criticized you for being a newbie? This is unlike the forum. While trying to grow as a beginner be it in this forum or outside the forum, you will eventually get criticized in what you do especially when you are not doing it well. When a newbie skips the learning process and wants to start teaching others it is likely a disguise from an experienced forum member or when someone displays pure act of negligence to follow through the learning process, such acts are seen as a deceitful act in the forum and such users are not to be trusted.
People use newbie account to deceive and scam people that why newbie accounts are always suspicious here so a newbie is supposed to act as a newbie else they will get criticized easily.


You are not forced to be here and if you feel you have a job paying you enough that makes you feel you are bigger than this forum then there is no reason to be here. No one is bigger than knowledge and it doesn't matter how big you might be if you you seek knowledge you must obey and be submissive to whomever your teacher is regardless of their age or status so same thing applies here, you seek knowledge but you feel you are too big to be treated that way. You are not the first newbie to experience this and this probably because you are getting something wrong so I would suggest you amend your ways and be loyal and develop a thick skin to withstand criticism.


Nobody is making fun of anyone here. The standards are very high and have brought out the best in those who could handle the criticism. Those who couldn't handle it were not suitable for this place, and the standards here are much higher than their capabilities. Take it as a challenge, if you can withstand it, you are destined to succeed here. Everyone you see here was once newbies and has faced criticism in one form or another but they have endured proving that they are capable of being here. You must do the same if you really want to be here.

It's not for you, then.  And by the way, there's no point system for disrespect shown toward newbies or anyone else.  It just so happens that there are a fuckload of scammers, degenerate gamblers, perverts, retards, and just plain stupid people making posts (or worse, creating threads), and it's usually so they can earn merits-->rank up-->earn as much $ as possible.

It's been that way for years.  Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.  And yeah I know I'm late in saying that but I just stumbled across this thread.

From what people who venture out into the real world tell me, youngsters these days have nothing even closely resembling a thick skin--I don't know if those "safe spaces" still exist, but that's a good example of how unprepared the newer generations are for the harsh realities of life.  Some members of this forum can be brutal, but if they're making a valid point you've just got to roll with it.  And Jesus, if anyone is getting upset IRL because of anything on a discussion forum, there's something seriously wrong with their temperament.

First of all, I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but as you mentioned, it's just how some people do things here. Being labeled as a newbie is just a rank, not a measure of knowledge. It might be because of inactivity or various reasons. To those considered newbies, don't feel discouraged. Remember why you joined and focus on what's best for you. Keep learning; being a newbie is temporary. With effort and growth, we can all evolve beyond that label. Let's stay positive and committed to our intentions for being here. Everyone has their journey, and continuous effort leads to progress.

Seeing the backstory gives me a clear idea of what OP means.
I've been seeing a lot of people, both old and new offer their services on the forum, I don't think he's the first. I read through the replies of the other post and I don't think they disrespected him the way he claims. All they were saying is they don't know him and he can't be trusted.
Of course that should make sense. This is an anonymous forum so before people do business with you they have to trust you one way or the other.
Even in the real world, nobody would work with you when he doesn't know about you, especially online work. That's why most people ask to see the portfolio of the person before hiring them. I think OP is just getting the wrong message.

I don't think the kind of post you make that's how the other high ranked members would treat you, some users here have this itchy behavior of looking down on others who just started in the Forum and they don't see those newbies as people who are here to learn and they (some high ranked members) don't think the newbies deserve a little bit of respect.
Is just their own way of being too hard on people and nothing can change their behavior towards newbies, they see the newbies as people who have nothing to offer to the Forum which is extremely bad.

Firstly no one ever said all newbies were scum. I believe every single member here was once a newbie who gradually grew to their respective ranks. The kind of post you make here  on this forum often determines how members would see you.
This forum is not a place where you would get some warm and nice treatment from all members. If you don't like the way you are addressed as a newbie, work on the kind of post and discussion you make or you make it your motivation to rank up.

Those moments are not suppose to be forgotten that easy and it made some of us to understand that without those criticism we won't have put more effort in all we have been doing, we won't have gotten to this very moment, it made us stronger.
Sometimes with all these harsh words it will make us act like we don't know what other uswrs are talking about in a thread, is like you have to be careful so that those high ranked members won't backlash you, like you have to be mindful of what you say because you wouldn't want to offend those who are above you in ranking, is just fear that's making most of it to happen to us.

That is what almost everyone here has also faced. One thing you should know is that a public or social gathering like this, thee are many people and different characters and behaviour from different destinations that has pulled up here. so you don't expect everyone to respond to you politely most people here are rude arogant and bragad so when you encounter them you will know the difference between positivity and negativity. The only advice I will give to you Is that you should learn to adapt to the forum and the types of people you meet.  Because some people mission on this place and yours might not be thesame. And if you follow them you might also fall to there trap and they will bring you down.

That's true, everyone has past through such criticism before and I know how you feel but it's the internet for God sake, I mean why take things personal just pick out the positive energy from the advice or criticism as the way you see and work with that believe me mate if you want to grow and learn here then you would better start thinking of positive energy because no one's see you doing or going astray without correcting you.

Getting a thick skin helps a lot but it takes time for some members to adapt and some high ranked members too don't have the knowledge some newbies have about Bitcoin but base on "I'm a Hero or Legendary" they won't let the newbies express themselves, not all high ranked members does that.
I won't blame newbies who don't do the reading and learning but post more reason is because they're desperate, talking about the newbies. They're trying to make a statement in the Forum and to be recognized that's why they post more (create threads) and sometimes they need to rank up so creating topics might give them the merit to rank up. The thing is everybody wants to be at the top.

I agree with what you hav said and even I have been through those embarassing situation where we were made made of, criticized while getting out doubts clarified.

But, it's all about shaping the user behaviour here and treating the newbie with same amount of respect which a Hero or Legendary member can get, because it the way how the message is put across and often it has been rude.