Topic: Newbies are not Scums.... Learning is a Process and it's progressive. (Read 567 times)

Everybody or almost everybody pass through same thing you are passing right now so don't see it as a big deal or take it to heart and I am 100 percent sure that it's not everybody that is criticizing or belittling you here, even outside this place there are people who criticize and belittle others forgetting they have been in that position before that's human for you but the ability for you not to take those criticism to heart will help you grow that's tolerance, you need that characteristic to grow in anywhere you find yourself.

No one is born learning anything. Time and practice help you learn. No one here on the forum became obsolete as soon as they entered the forum. Everyone was newbie at one time. Then slowly through his own actions, he grew in his own position with data. Also I don't think anyone on the forum called newbies dirty. Every person in the world has a different nature. Maybe the other person didn't like the fact that you discussed something new. Since there are different types of people in the forum, you would expect good behavior from everyone, which is not true. You manage a variety of posts and discussions as your own. Surely you will get promoted and become old at some point.

Indeed, everyone joined the forum for different reasons, and no one can be unfairly judged for their own reasons. The forum is large enough to accommodate everyone, but what you post and how you contribute here will define how others perceive you, so it's important to take the time to fully understand things before participating in the forum. Bitcointalk is not an office for anyone, rather, it is a place for discussion and education regarding bitcoin. Although, the information obtained here can be used to create wealth.


Can you show us a post where you are not wrong and someone just criticized you for being a newbie? This is unlike the forum. While trying to grow as a beginner be it in this forum or outside the forum, you will eventually get criticized in what you do especially when you are not doing it well. When a newbie skips the learning process and wants to start teaching others it is likely a disguise from an experienced forum member or when someone displays pure act of negligence to follow through the learning process, such acts are seen as a deceitful act in the forum and such users are not to be trusted.
People use newbie account to deceive and scam people that why newbie accounts are always suspicious here so a newbie is supposed to act as a newbie else they will get criticized easily.


You are not forced to be here and if you feel you have a job paying you enough that makes you feel you are bigger than this forum then there is no reason to be here. No one is bigger than knowledge and it doesn't matter how big you might be if you you seek knowledge you must obey and be submissive to whomever your teacher is regardless of their age or status so same thing applies here, you seek knowledge but you feel you are too big to be treated that way. You are not the first newbie to experience this and this probably because you are getting something wrong so I would suggest you amend your ways and be loyal and develop a thick skin to withstand criticism.


Nobody is making fun of anyone here. The standards are very high and have brought out the best in those who could handle the criticism. Those who couldn't handle it were not suitable for this place, and the standards here are much higher than their capabilities. Take it as a challenge, if you can withstand it, you are destined to succeed here. Everyone you see here was once newbies and has faced criticism in one form or another but they have endured proving that they are capable of being here. You must do the same if you really want to be here.

It's not for you, then.  And by the way, there's no point system for disrespect shown toward newbies or anyone else.  It just so happens that there are a fuckload of scammers, degenerate gamblers, perverts, retards, and just plain stupid people making posts (or worse, creating threads), and it's usually so they can earn merits-->rank up-->earn as much $ as possible.

It's been that way for years.  Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.  And yeah I know I'm late in saying that but I just stumbled across this thread.

From what people who venture out into the real world tell me, youngsters these days have nothing even closely resembling a thick skin--I don't know if those "safe spaces" still exist, but that's a good example of how unprepared the newer generations are for the harsh realities of life.  Some members of this forum can be brutal, but if they're making a valid point you've just got to roll with it.  And Jesus, if anyone is getting upset IRL because of anything on a discussion forum, there's something seriously wrong with their temperament.

First of all, I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but as you mentioned, it's just how some people do things here. Being labeled as a newbie is just a rank, not a measure of knowledge. It might be because of inactivity or various reasons. To those considered newbies, don't feel discouraged. Remember why you joined and focus on what's best for you. Keep learning; being a newbie is temporary. With effort and growth, we can all evolve beyond that label. Let's stay positive and committed to our intentions for being here. Everyone has their journey, and continuous effort leads to progress.

Seeing the backstory gives me a clear idea of what OP means.
I've been seeing a lot of people, both old and new offer their services on the forum, I don't think he's the first. I read through the replies of the other post and I don't think they disrespected him the way he claims. All they were saying is they don't know him and he can't be trusted.
Of course that should make sense. This is an anonymous forum so before people do business with you they have to trust you one way or the other.
Even in the real world, nobody would work with you when he doesn't know about you, especially online work. That's why most people ask to see the portfolio of the person before hiring them. I think OP is just getting the wrong message.

I don't think the kind of post you make that's how the other high ranked members would treat you, some users here have this itchy behavior of looking down on others who just started in the Forum and they don't see those newbies as people who are here to learn and they (some high ranked members) don't think the newbies deserve a little bit of respect.
Is just their own way of being too hard on people and nothing can change their behavior towards newbies, they see the newbies as people who have nothing to offer to the Forum which is extremely bad.

Firstly no one ever said all newbies were scum. I believe every single member here was once a newbie who gradually grew to their respective ranks. The kind of post you make here  on this forum often determines how members would see you.
This forum is not a place where you would get some warm and nice treatment from all members. If you don't like the way you are addressed as a newbie, work on the kind of post and discussion you make or you make it your motivation to rank up.

Those moments are not suppose to be forgotten that easy and it made some of us to understand that without those criticism we won't have put more effort in all we have been doing, we won't have gotten to this very moment, it made us stronger.
Sometimes with all these harsh words it will make us act like we don't know what other uswrs are talking about in a thread, is like you have to be careful so that those high ranked members won't backlash you, like you have to be mindful of what you say because you wouldn't want to offend those who are above you in ranking, is just fear that's making most of it to happen to us.

That is what almost everyone here has also faced. One thing you should know is that a public or social gathering like this, thee are many people and different characters and behaviour from different destinations that has pulled up here. so you don't expect everyone to respond to you politely most people here are rude arogant and bragad so when you encounter them you will know the difference between positivity and negativity. The only advice I will give to you Is that you should learn to adapt to the forum and the types of people you meet.  Because some people mission on this place and yours might not be thesame. And if you follow them you might also fall to there trap and they will bring you down.

That's true, everyone has past through such criticism before and I know how you feel but it's the internet for God sake, I mean why take things personal just pick out the positive energy from the advice or criticism as the way you see and work with that believe me mate if you want to grow and learn here then you would better start thinking of positive energy because no one's see you doing or going astray without correcting you.

Getting a thick skin helps a lot but it takes time for some members to adapt and some high ranked members too don't have the knowledge some newbies have about Bitcoin but base on "I'm a Hero or Legendary" they won't let the newbies express themselves, not all high ranked members does that.
I won't blame newbies who don't do the reading and learning but post more reason is because they're desperate, talking about the newbies. They're trying to make a statement in the Forum and to be recognized that's why they post more (create threads) and sometimes they need to rank up so creating topics might give them the merit to rank up. The thing is everybody wants to be at the top.

I agree with what you hav said and even I have been through those embarassing situation where we were made made of, criticized while getting out doubts clarified.

But, it's all about shaping the user behaviour here and treating the newbie with same amount of respect which a Hero or Legendary member can get, because it the way how the message is put across and often it has been rude.

Many will say to continue in the forum you get to build a thick skin, whereas the most high ranked members are well intellectual with Bitcoin and it's technology so they expect much from you signing here in this forum. Get acquainted with the rules, know your do and don't, always keep ear to listen and ask very well constructive questions this will alone attract you to their trust list. As a newbie it is best to do more of reading and learning than so many posts or spamming.

OP you have to know that the "newbie" you talk about is just a rank and nothing more. Not letting what people say about you on the Forum get to you is the only way to get past it. If you have questions ask and you'd have your answer. Nobody is perfect in the Forum we are all here to learn and also pass on information to other members who knows nothing about it, what you're passing through every other person went through the same thing before getting to where they are now so don't feel intimidated but don't ask questions that you know the answers to, that's what makes some newbies look stupid.

I love your response to the OP and I hope he take note of the important advice in this post to help him grow in the forum, just like you stated, we're humans after all and it's in the nature of some humans to be full of criticism. However the OP shouldn't be discouraged by that but rather should pick out the sense they're try to make and disregard the words of discouragement they reply to him, just like my dad would always tell me, in every nonsense there's a sense, just key in to the sense and disregard the rest.
 Every member of the forum, from the Brand-new to the Legendary and down to the Moderators of different boards were once a newbie before they grew to the level they're currently, we're all here to learn and also give out our valuable opinions to help the forum grow, therefore do not be discouraged or frustrated by Critics when you try to give out your opinions, I'm sure there are members who give listening ears to the handful informations you give out and make good use of it.

Going through your post I can deduce that you are getting some misconception about the forum, of course every professional was once a newbie, every professor was also once a student, I understand that maybe you've been talked down upon by some members, but believe me that is not the models operandi of this great forum, as most members are here to always give you a guideline once you ask the appropriate question on this forum, so if anybody might have attacked your comment don't take it to heart as that is human nature naturally for you, rather you should take a lift from those that have answered the question give asked appropriately.

You have to your best as possible not to allow comments to make you feel bad,  this is an online platform you shouldn't expect everyone to have the same opinion just like you. People will always criticise you and do not let it be a problem to you, this is just how life is. Everyone will not be in support of everything you do, people will always bring their own opinion. For you to enjoy the forum learn how to accept criticism .

I think op should know that not everyone think the same way. There are people that are very aggressive and knows how to take to people in a way that they might not like at all. Newbies are not scum and I don't know who he is actually redirecting to looking at the nature of things in this community. Newbies need to be ready to learn and do things that will help them grow gradually not becoming too desperate to grow and join signature campaigns. This is what most newbies are after currently which supposed not to be so.

OP if you accuse people of something then you should show some evidence to back up what you have said. Throughout my stay on the forum i have not seen where they accuse any newbies as scums. All i have witnessed is that newbies are being humiliated with some strong words to motivate them to learn. Definitely newbies do make so many mistakes and sometimes don't know much about the forum which make them to violate some certain rules. So, i dint see it as something bad to scold a newbie whenever he does something wrong, because that is why he is a newbie. They no less and have to the taught even if it is the hard way.