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What other problem do you think came out of this solution?
Merit selling, merit abuse, merit farner, merit gossiping, merit harrasment, merit bullying

By making it impossible for account farmers to rank up the merit system has cut off the influx of spammers. That is getting to the root cause of the problem.
That is not the right calculation here, ealier on
Another thing, the amount that will be collected from ico spammers will be tiny comparing to ads, so the answer is NO, NO and NO!
If the amount that will be collected from ico spammers will be tiny comparing to ads then why would we need the alternative cryptocurrencies at all where all the ICO spamming is happening, just close it and why would we need signature which one way this ICO spammer thriving here.

The question is why need signature and alternative cryptocurrencies at all? what is the reason having to keep it despite its bring disaster to the forum and there is no monetary gain keeping it in the system.


hero member
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Why don't just close alternate crytocurrencies then or disable everyone signature, if not we just create the problem and then introduce a solution and then another problem comes out of the solution itself, create another solution.

What other problem do you think came out of this solution?

Why don't just go to the root cause and stop it.

By making it impossible for account farmers to rank up the merit system has cut off the influx of spammers. That is getting to the root cause of the problem.
member
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Can we pay also a small fee for merit as a starter? Just hoping. It's like one-time transaction for newbies or newly Jr. Member to have merits and the fund will go to the forum...

Will NEVER happens.
What's the point to force people to post constructively and to contribute to the progress of others in the forum then?
Another thing, the amount that will be collected from ico spammers will be tiny comparing to ads, so the answer is NO, NO and NO!
Why don't just close alternate crytocurrencies then or disable everyone signature, if not we just create the problem and then introduce a solution and then another problem comes out of the solution itself, create another solution.

Why don't just go to the root cause and stop it.
legendary
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Can we pay also a small fee for merit as a starter? Just hoping. It's like one-time transaction for newbies or newly Jr. Member to have merits and the fund will go to the forum...

Will NEVER happens.
What's the point to force people to post constructively and to contribute to the progress of others in the forum then?
Another thing, the amount that will be collected from ico spammers will be tiny comparing to ads, so the answer is NO, NO and NO!
newbie
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Can we pay also a small fee for merit as a starter? Just hoping. It's like one-time transaction for newbies or newly Jr. Member to have merits and the fund will go to the forum...
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
[Insert curse words here.]

It means now we can use avatar campaign in the bounty. But what is the requirement of enabling the images in the profile. Newbie can now turn to Junior member in 30 days.

“cryptohacker29@”, what is the maximum price you would pay for an avatar?



@theymos, thank you for your wisdom in NOT making avatars a standard feature of Copper Membership.

I must severely revise and correct what I said here:

For personal use in an account expected to “rank up” normally within a few months, as I said in my post:

When I was a Newbie Copper Member, I myself would have paid extra to sport an avatar—say, the equivalent of $10 more.

The business use case could be different.  For example, consider a role account which functions as a fully disclosed alt, and mostly just does occasional announcements.  Such an account may never reach Full Member status—and it certainly shouldn’t play evil games to bump up posts/merit for that purpose!  At present, there exists no means at all for such an account to display a simple graphical business logo.

For that use case, I think a fair avatar add-on price would be 50–100% of the current price of Copper Membership (thus making the total price 150–200% of Copper’s current price).

If avatars are in-demand for bounty-chasers, then offering a reasonably inexpensive paid avatar option would likely increase the spam level.

Forget what I said about a $10 avatar for personal use.  Well-intended users will understand and appreciate the need to control incentives to spam.  For ordinary accounts, people can just rank up.  I’ll be proud to wear an avatar for the first time, just over 48 hours from now!

New suggestion:

Accounts at Full Member rank or higher should be able to grant an “avatar blessing” to accounts which they openly disclose as their alts.  It would be reasonable to charge a modest, nonrefundable fee for the administrative overhead required to prevent this from being abused by account sellers (and/or people who would simply sell their “blessing”).  An express condition of such a scheme must be that the “blessing” is only valid as long as the same person controls both accounts.

Example use case (other than mine):

For example,if i post ICO Project in Altcoin Announcements my images will not displayed if i don't pay this little fee?

Almost the same question here. If I buy this status can I start ANN with images?

Yes, I have it on my organization profile.  It works well for including images in posts.

Best regards,
Ben

Otherwise, any paid avatar option must be made too expensive for people who are seeking free money.  That should be balanced against not making it too expensive for individuals who are trying to bootstrap a small business on a shoestring budget (cough).

I think that at current rates, around 0.01 – 0.02 BTC would be a reasonable business-class expense (even for small business) while hopefully being cost-prohibitive to a Newbie who just wants to “use avatar campaign in the bounty”.
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It means now we can use avatar campaign in the bounty. But what is the requirement of enabling the images in the profile. Newbie can now turn to Junior member in 30 days.
hero member
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i want to be a copper member, can i take this membership as i sr. member ?

is it possible?  i saw a lot of people have a copper membership upper than jr.member


thank you for you answers,


why? : i just want it, i like this forum, there are no serious reason Smiley

Yes, you can, it works for any rank. You get the option as to whether you want to 'wear' the rank of copper or not after purchasing it. As you already noted there's not really much benefit to a Sr. Member but some people just do it as an alternative to making a donation to the forum.



thank you TheQuin, you are king!  Smiley
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i want to be a copper member, can i take this membership as i sr. member ?

is it possible?  i saw a lot of people have a copper membership upper than jr.member


thank you for you answers,


why? : i just want it, i like this forum, there are no serious reason Smiley

Yes, you can, it works for any rank. You get the option as to whether you want to 'wear' the rank of copper or not after purchasing it. As you already noted there's not really much benefit to a Sr. Member but some people just do it as an alternative to making a donation to the forum.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 696
i want to be a copper member, can i take this membership as i sr. member ?

is it possible?  i saw a lot of people have a copper membership upper than jr.member


thank you for you answers,


why? : i just want it, i like this forum, there are no serious reason Smiley
copper member
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Hello,

Sorry to bother you, I applied to become a copper member. I sent 0.00208333 BTC to the address : 37HrBxcFhmzffbCKd2qNyVmYBdnuJHDz3D
The payment has been confirmed.
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/tx/2546a7531ed3e6e2a6d7384a26702120fdb9d928102aba132c502c26a951ce26

When I check the page to activate my account, I see a different deposit address : 3BWfXz9AbV96h9b6n3xGxMfPoYmRt64kbY

Please can you help fix that,

Thank you !

I also have the same problem! help please!
Confirmation scans are available!

thanks for the help!
copper member
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Is “copper member” displayed when someone pays the fee? If so do they retain he title after they have sufficient activity to become a “member”?

I like this idea. It could potentially lead to more strict anti spam measures such as longer time between posts, waiting x time before you can post, being able to only post in x boards, being unable to create threads (in x boards) etc
I paid! all appears!
legendary
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Hello,

Sorry to bother you, I applied to become a copper member. I sent 0.00208333 BTC to the address : 37HrBxcFhmzffbCKd2qNyVmYBdnuJHDz3D
The payment has been confirmed.
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/tx/2546a7531ed3e6e2a6d7384a26702120fdb9d928102aba132c502c26a951ce26

When I check the page to activate my account, I see a different deposit address : 3BWfXz9AbV96h9b6n3xGxMfPoYmRt64kbY

Please can you help fix that,

Thank you !

I also have the same problem! help please!
Confirmation scans are available!
It's a bug. theymos already addressed that issue/bug on another thread:
After further investigation, this was in fact a bug. It looks like about 10% of payments made between March 3 and now were not credited. I put a notice at the top of the unproxyban and promote page so that people can email me and I'll sort it out for them.
Simply read and follow the second line:
Due to a bug, some payments made between March 3 and March 5 were not credited. Only if you ALREADY PAID and it was NOT CREDITED, email your username and the Bitcoin address to which you paid to [email protected].
copper member
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Hello,

Sorry to bother you, I applied to become a copper member. I sent 0.00208333 BTC to the address : 37HrBxcFhmzffbCKd2qNyVmYBdnuJHDz3D
The payment has been confirmed.
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/tx/2546a7531ed3e6e2a6d7384a26702120fdb9d928102aba132c502c26a951ce26

When I check the page to activate my account, I see a different deposit address : 3BWfXz9AbV96h9b6n3xGxMfPoYmRt64kbY

Please can you help fix that,

Thank you !

I also have the same problem! help please!
Confirmation scans are available!
copper member
Activity: 126
Merit: 0
Hello,

Sorry to bother you, I applied to become a copper member. I sent 0.00208333 BTC to the address : 37HrBxcFhmzffbCKd2qNyVmYBdnuJHDz3D
The payment has been confirmed.
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/tx/2546a7531ed3e6e2a6d7384a26702120fdb9d928102aba132c502c26a951ce26

When I check the page to activate my account, I see a different deposit address : 3BWfXz9AbV96h9b6n3xGxMfPoYmRt64kbY

Please can you help fix that,

Thank you !
hero member
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Wanna be Copper member ASAP!! Any advice?

Go back to the opening post of this thread, open your eyes and read it, follow the instructions to become a Copper Member. Then stop making pointless posts like this to avoid getting banned for spamming.
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?

Yes, you can buy Copper Membership and “wear” it when “Brand New”.  There is no reason to wait.  After you create your account, simply follow the instructions at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

I myself was already wearing my Copper Membership when I made my first post.

N.b. that this can substitute for paying the “evil IP” fee, if you created your account through Tor, a VPN, or a proxy.  If you want Copper Membership, ignore the “unproxyban” instructions; and follow the above link instead.  The Copper Membership fee is larger than the “evil IP” fee, and will absolve you of the evil.  For Tor, etc. users who intend to go Copper anyway, purchasing it when “Brand New” will save a transaction fee:  1 tx to buy Copper, rather than 2 tx for “evil IP” + Copper.  (I am a Tor user:  All Tor, all the time.)

@theymos, please consider adding a link to the “credit;promote” page on the “credit;unproxyban” page with a brief explanation.  That would help users who want Copper anyway, and probably sell more memberships.

(Of course, all the foregoing is irrelevant to you, Jonas_SONDER:  As of this writing; you already have made 4 posts; and I see you at “Newbie” status.  The foregoing information is provided for the benefit of others.)
legendary
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Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?
Don't worry you will be a newbie in few minutes after making 1 post.
Afaik, all ranks can buy copper member, it is not limited to newbies, for brand new it should be the same but it is wise to wait few minutes until the update occurs.
copper member
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SONDER ICO Community manager
Hi, guys! Have I to wait till my account got updated to Newbie, or I can submit Cooper Member status even being Brand New?
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
[2018-03-11 edit:  Struck out some of my suggestions; issued correction, q.v.]

@theymos

Has the potential been considered of allowing paid accounts to have avatars at low rank, via Copper Membership or otherwise?

This is one of the perks I suggested of one of the potential higher donator ranks. Maybe for a "Silver" one if additional ranks get implemented (though theymos has said there's no current plans to add any new ranks). I don't think it should be included with Copper though and that rank should essentially just be a bare bones one with only minimal benefits (essentially being an automatic whitelisting).

Thanks, hilarious.  I do think it’s reasonable to not include avatars in the current Copper Membership offering.  However, I don’t see why it would be required to add another paid membership level; that seems to unnecessarily complicate matters.  I suggest instead that avatars should be offered as an à la carte add-on for those who already buy Copper.

For personal use in an account expected to “rank up” normally within a few months, as I said in my post:

When I was a Newbie Copper Member, I myself would have paid extra to sport an avatar—say, the equivalent of $10 more.

The business use case could be different.  For example, consider a role account which functions as a fully disclosed alt, and mostly just does occasional announcements.  Such an account may never reach Full Member status—and it certainly shouldn’t play evil games to bump up posts/merit for that purpose!  At present, there exists no means at all for such an account to display a simple graphical business logo.

For that use case, I think a fair avatar add-on price would be 50–100% of the current price of Copper Membership (thus making the total price 150–200% of Copper’s current price).

Such an account would also need simple hyperlinks in its signature, which Copper already semi-unofficially provides.  I don’t see any reason why such an account could legitimately need a fancy signature—ever.
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