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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.

I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code.

280x does 46 mh/s @ 1100/1250 with current miner.

Do you have more than one GPU in that system? I'm not getting the same - and the miner downloaded from the official site shows the hash of ALL GPUs added together.
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@Wolf0

Miner version: 1.2 (with Wolf0 OpenCL kernel)
OS: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
Driver: 14.9
GPU: R9 280X (stock)

[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511975
60.8 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:29
60.8 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:40
60.9 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:51
60.9 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:02
61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:13
61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:24
61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:35
61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:46
61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:57
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511976
61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511976 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:08:08
61.2 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511976 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:08:19
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511977
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Since you've shown me your code as well, I'll show you mine - but I want your opinion on it. I think it's more clear, clean, and concise than the original: https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/sk1024_djm.cl



Awesome, I will take a look at it sometime tonight or tomorrow and report back.
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.

I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code.
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@Wolf0

Downloaded from: https://github.com/BitSlapper/SKMiner

Apart from fixing a few bugs and adding some debugging code, I’ve only made a one line change to the OpenCL (sk1024_djm.cl) kernel code.

It would take a few hours to optimize the OpenCL kernel (using CodeXL) to reduce the VGPRs usage thereby increasing the occupancy. But since you’ve already done so and your miner is significantly faster, would you mind sharing your code?


Perhaps when the miner I'm working on for Viz is released. In the meantime, I'll show you my CodeXL analysis for Tahiti if you show me yours for the one you have.

I didn't optimize the existing kernel, really, I rewrote it, but it's surprising that such a small edit would do so well.

Here you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jotw7xgp2re8qwi/Nov-24-2015_17-24-21.zip?dl=0
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.

I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code.

280x does 46 mh/s @ 1100/1250 with current miner.

what;s about others?
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@Wolf0

Downloaded from: https://github.com/BitSlapper/SKMiner

Apart from fixing a few bugs and adding some debugging code, I’ve only made a one line change to the OpenCL (sk1024_djm.cl) kernel code.

It would take a few hours to optimize the OpenCL kernel (using CodeXL) to reduce the VGPRs usage thereby increasing the occupancy. But since you’ve already done so and your miner is significantly faster, would you mind sharing your code?
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Well, I suppose it doesn't matter - mine is still significantly faster (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/nirowolf-11242015.png
Looks good cant wait to try it Smiley
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Honestly can't remember if its default.

"algorithm" : "sk1024_djm",
   "gpu-engine" : "1100",
   "gpu-memclock" : "1250",
   "gpu-shaders" : "2048",
   "gpu-threads" : "1",
   "gpu-vddc" : "0",
   "gpu-powertune" : "0",
   "intensity" : "22",
   "xintensity" : "0",
   "rawintensity" : "0",
   "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
   "lookup-gap" : "2",
   "worksize" : "256",

Close enough to it. I don't get it. Unless you have 290X cards.
Definitely 280x Smiley
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Miner version: 1.2 (cleaned up to compile and run on Linux)
OS: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
Driver: 14.9
GPU: R9 280X (stock)

[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511517
39.5 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:00
39.5 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:11
39.6 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:22

[Block Nonce = 989773809]
00000000035f7878e09d8e2c442be919182bf0f6caed9b14e2ef1252e40b6925f30bfed7aa6c70\
e444fba536bd560b643886ca5a83fe35d453367bfc1c0c687cee6d815eeab873cfea8acdd2b887\
9560e8b8fa81c1339c1bff614ac7113abdac2085c684582845cfca6728eb848709e7d77411e141\
a6126122709105b5da1cda


******* BLOCK with 38 Leading Zero Bits FOUND *******

             ...Preparing for Block Submission...

Submitting Block...
[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511518
39.3 MH/s | 1 Blks ACC=1 REJ=0 | Height = 511518 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:34
39.3 MH/s | 1 Blks ACC=1 REJ=0 | Height = 511518 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:45
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Honestly can't remember if its default.

"algorithm" : "sk1024_djm",
   "gpu-engine" : "1100",
   "gpu-memclock" : "1250",
   "gpu-shaders" : "2048",
   "gpu-threads" : "1",
   "gpu-vddc" : "0",
   "gpu-powertune" : "0",
   "intensity" : "22",
   "xintensity" : "0",
   "rawintensity" : "0",
   "thread-concurrency" : "8192",
   "lookup-gap" : "2",
   "worksize" : "256",
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Yes i have 5x 280x rig, and tbh i haven't run the miner recently i'll just fire it up and check exact speed.

Edit: Its more like 42.3Mh/s per 280x

Are you using the official miner from the Niro site? I tested it and got half that.

Yes I'm using skminer v1.2 with catalyst 15.7 dll's.
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Yes i have 5x 280x rig, and tbh i haven't run the miner recently i'll just fire it up and check exact speed.

Edit: Its more like 42.3Mh/s per 280x
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.

I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code.

280x does 46 mh/s @ 1100/1250 with current miner.
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If you read back just a few posts you would know the project is still very much alive and well.
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.


There is no trade for two days back, Is The project is still running  Huh Huh Huh
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).

Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.

Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.

If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.

Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets

Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway.
All this part of discussion start about expiration time of trust key. Now trust key expire in 24 hour, if you read few pages behind, you will see all opinions about 3 day, 7 day expiration time. I offered different point of view, and suggestion.....
After all, in future we will see results ..... mathematically, in numbers, number of running wallets, and other numbers
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