Neymar being addicted to online poker

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 24, 2024, 05:37:30 AM

That would surely instill into that childrens mind on which there's really a particular age on which they are really that highly reactive and highly that memorizing or familiarizing on whats happening around or on the things which their parents had been doing specially into those days on when they were born or simply with those special occasions. Even just simply talks about not attending on recognition day on which if your parents
doesnt really show up some care about attending then it might really be that looking a very simple problem but its not because it would really be giving out that lifetime impact on which ive said that it would really be instilling into their minds forever. This is where most people would really be that giving out that kind of negative impressions with this kind of act for a father to be done into its children specially into their special
days which it do really only happens once a year and its really not that hard on giving out a few hours in regarding into the said occasion.

You are exactly that kind of person who did not bother reading article, nor going deep into details of this situation.

First of all, what is this “special day that happens once a year”? Birthday? Technically “6 month birthday” happens every year, but I am sure you have meant “first or 1 year birthday”. That little girl did not turn 1yo. She is only 6m old. Secondly about “memorizing things”. You think kids at such can remember father playing poker on a mobile? That baby cant even speak right now, and only remember few face details. Mobile for her is a flashy thing only right now.

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Doesn't seem addiction to me (maybe not yet) but more distracted, just like me sometimes when playing game or watching sports though the child won't remember and maybe it's just that time that he just play and just caught in the video but the rest of the day he celebrate it with his family, it's just a clip and we don't see him doing it all day. Anyway, no matter if you have money or not everyone is just the same it's our instinct that if we win, we want more and if we lose, we want to win that losses.

The difference is that they have huge bankroll than us.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

I am sorry to say, but are you stupid or what? Do you really believe that kids remember every single day of their life? How old is that girl? 6 months? At that age kids vision only start to really focus on objects and track their movement. A maximum what that girl at this age is able to remember are parents faces and recognize them among others. That baby at this age will super surprised to see herself in the mirror, and you say she will remember seeing her father gambling on a mobile for a long time. LOL

That would surely instill into that childrens mind on which there's really a particular age on which they are really that highly reactive and highly that memorizing or familiarizing on whats happening around or on the things which their parents had been doing specially into those days on when they were born or simply with those special occasions. Even just simply talks about not attending on recognition day on which if your parents
doesnt really show up some care about attending then it might really be that looking a very simple problem but its not because it would really be giving out that lifetime impact on which ive said that it would really be instilling into their minds forever. This is where most people would really be that giving out that kind of negative impressions with this kind of act for a father to be done into its children specially into their special
days which it do really only happens once a year and its really not that hard on giving out a few hours in regarding into the said occasion.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on April 24, 2024, 04:42:42 AM

Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

I am sorry to say, but are you stupid or what? Do you really believe that kids remember every single day of their life? How old is that girl? 6 months? At that age kids vision only start to really focus on objects and track their movement. A maximum what that girl at this age is able to remember are parents faces and recognize them among others. That baby at this age will super surprised to see herself in the mirror, and you say she will remember seeing her father gambling on a mobile for a long time. LOL

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

This Football star did the thing that makes him happy in the first place, though we see it not aligned to what is right for us but for him there's nothing wrong about it. A millionaire like him doesn't care for what his money turns out in the future, that's why he kepts doing gambling activity even if it's his daughter's birthday.
Gambling addiction couldn't be controlled as long their source finances is consistently coming over, more particular on him a high paying football player.

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Quote from: xLays on April 23, 2024, 09:08:46 AM

It seems that Neymar's purpose in playing online poker is for pure entertainment. You can see from that article he looks happy. How can you immediately conclude that he's already addicted to online poker just from a video or post like this? Do you have any records of his deposits in poker to suspect addiction? Do you know if he plays it every day? In short, the question here is whether there are signs indicating that he's addicted to gambling?

Moreover, even if he is addicted to gambling, why would someone judge him how he spends his money. For me he is a person who has earned enough to live a merely life, enjoy life and do nothing rest of the life. I am sure he is smart enough not to waste all of his money in poker. And even if he did this, that would be his problem. For me he doing nothing bad; he is not calling others to gamble, he is not doing anything bad to others, so why would we pay so much attention to his hobby ?

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It seems that Neymar's purpose in playing online poker is for pure entertainment. You can see from that article he looks happy. How can you immediately conclude that he's already addicted to online poker just from a video or post like this? Do you have any records of his deposits in poker to suspect addiction? Do you know if he plays it every day? In short, the question here is whether there are signs indicating that he's addicted to gambling?

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Quote from: bakasabo on April 23, 2024, 06:25:00 AM

I was talking general. I was simply outraged that people read only headline, see short video and start putting labels on the person. From one of the best football players in to time Neymar turned in gambling addicted person who gambles in front of kids, and his gambling addiction will move to his daughter (like a flu probably), she will become and addicted gambler with no future. People came to this conclusion after watching only 10 seconds video.

They usually do this if they are not familiar with the person or the subject and they fail to do research and gather facts, sometimes I am also guilty of that.

In a discussion when we discuss personalities and behaviors we create two discussions, the person and the behaviors and along the way, the discussions all become mixed up, especially for people who are not aware of additional information.

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Quote from: taufik123 on April 23, 2024, 05:44:30 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on April 22, 2024, 04:02:41 AM

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LOL, I mean the daughter, apparently you are aware of the mistake I wrote.

And some of the facts you provide proof that each person's analysis will have a different point of view.
Those who just look at the headline without analyzing the facts will never know about the points you mentioned.

But I love the meme you posted, it illustrates about how different points of view can be dangerous.

As in the gossip that a few months ago was crowded about Bruno Mars, who had debts in casinos reaching $ 50 million.
Many wild narratives occurred that cornered Bruno Mars, but when the casino concerned clarified that Bruno Mars was never in debt, then the negative news narrative disappeared with the clarification.

MGM Denies Claims Bruno Mars Has Debt With Casino: ‘Any Speculation Otherwise Is Completely False

This is also because the media that spread the news also want to get more attention and audience, thus making hoax news.

I was talking general. I was simply outraged that people read only headline, see short video and start putting labels on the person. From one of the best football players in to time Neymar turned in gambling addicted person who gambles in front of kids, and his gambling addiction will move to his daughter (like a flu probably), she will become and addicted gambler with no future. People came to this conclusion after watching only 10 seconds video.

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Quote from: bakasabo on April 22, 2024, 04:02:41 AM

(sort of such kind of effect)

LOL, I mean the daughter, apparently you are aware of the mistake I wrote.

And some of the facts you provide proof that each person's analysis will have a different point of view.
Those who just look at the headline without analyzing the facts will never know about the points you mentioned.

But I love the meme you posted, it illustrates about how different points of view can be dangerous.

As in the gossip that a few months ago was crowded about Bruno Mars, who had debts in casinos reaching $ 50 million.
Many wild narratives occurred that cornered Bruno Mars, but when the casino concerned clarified that Bruno Mars was never in debt, then the negative news narrative disappeared with the clarification.

MGM Denies Claims Bruno Mars Has Debt With Casino: ‘Any Speculation Otherwise Is Completely False

This is also because the media that spread the news also want to get more attention and audience, thus making hoax news.

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Quote from: taufik123 on April 21, 2024, 10:14:12 AM

Quote from: jaberwock on April 21, 2024, 09:08:42 AM

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I think people are overreacting to it and not that I would do the same, because I am not addicted to poker that much, actually I don't even remember when was the last time I played it, but if I was given an entry to a poker tournament with a big award at the end, I would probably do the same in that situation too.

People who overreacted to the video were offended by Neymar's attitude of playing poker while celebrating his son's birthday.

You have said it right - people read the name of the article and instantly start accusing person. From gambling in front of kids, to being a reckless father. But in fact we have

1) its daughters birthday, not his sons birthday
2) little girl is only 6 months old. I would understand if it was her first year, second and so on. But it is only 6th month.
3) Neymar already split with that little girls mother. What if he feels uncomfortable to celebrate with "strangers"? Do people even feel happy, cheerful or wonderful when they met their ex ?
4) who has said they were celebrating something? Room or area was not decorated. No cake, no candles. Just 3 persons sitting behind the table. What if after this moment taken on video, they went to celebrate in other room with guests, balloons, cakes and animators
5) judging person from <30sec video clip is wrong.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 21, 2024, 03:05:24 AM

when I saw the video I thought "Well he probably had a tournament still going on"
Or I thought
it could really be a masked advertisement for the poker house "affiliated" with him
because continuing to play poker during the daughter's birthday is not the best thing... surely there is a "logic" explanation.
What is certain at first glance it seems a terrible self-image not exactly the best thing.
The same was realized in other situation was completely another impact.

When you talk about it being an advert then that I can relate to because most of the characters of these star which we feel is off can turn out to be something else although their is still a strong clause to the reality that he is just same old gambling entice person that really love the poker game, i mean he is just human and do have habits himself.

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Oh but this is just the beginning and at least he has a lot of money to spare in order to pursue this hobby he has but let's not forget that on Twitch and Kick there are A LOT of streamers who had partnerships with some certain bookies and for some of them that partnership ended and they are still gambling from their own pocket. Wonder why ? Well , they became addicts and doing slots for 2 years on a daily stream can do that to you and it's simply sad. Sad

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

I agree with you that this looks really strange, playing poker during the birthday party of your daughter. He is a famous person so there is much more attention to everything he does than for the average person. When I look at my family birthday parties it's quite common to see at least somebody on the phone, even though we are not gambling at the time. At least he is only gambling online and not skipping his daughter's birthday by visiting a physical casino. From what I heard is that Neymar is trying to go professional in poker after his football career. He is already rich and famous, so going into poker for that doesn't seem like the motivation, he probably is really interested in the game itself. It's hard to say that he is really addicted to gambling by one video alone. If this happens on a regular basis than I would agree, but here there could be also other reasons. For example, I don't know if he is playing a cash or a tournament on his phone. When it comes to poker tournaments they can last a pretty long time. With a cash game he could just stop playing and continue after the birthday party without any problems. But maybe he started a tournament a couple of hours earlier and didn't expect to go so deep. Once you get close to the bubble, poker tournaments become really slow as the majority of players will only play the best possible hands. I have been in the situation where I thought I would only play poker for 1-2 hours, only to end up playing for 5 hours as I managed to almost win the tournament.

That is a real possibility, on the early stages of a tournament players drop like flies as you can see the majority of them being eliminated very quickly, since they are trying some risky maneuvers with the hope of getting on the top of the rankings and obtain an advantage over the rest of the players, but once that first stage is crossed things can get really slow, and if Neymar was in that position then it could make sense that he was gambling at the time when some people may consider such a thing to be inappropriate.

People would really be seeing it on instant manner and would really be making or drawing up some conclusions something like this and like that which it is mostly be in negative on which this is really that a common approach because its never been that good looking that you would really be doing some casino or online poker or whatever you would be doing into your daughters birthday. Well yeah it does really give out that kind of vibe that he should skipped out a day at least because this is something a specialy day specially this one talks about once a year event or happening. You can gamble anytime.

Just like on what most people been saying on here that its none of our business on how he would really be spending up his time and his connection into his family.
We do have our own routines in life and also its our money then its none of others business on how you would be gonna spending it. People do really always have something to say
on whatever their eyes could really be able to see on which this one isnt really that shocking.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 21, 2024, 02:47:37 AM

Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

I agree with you that this looks really strange, playing poker during the birthday party of your daughter. He is a famous person so there is much more attention to everything he does than for the average person. When I look at my family birthday parties it's quite common to see at least somebody on the phone, even though we are not gambling at the time. At least he is only gambling online and not skipping his daughter's birthday by visiting a physical casino. From what I heard is that Neymar is trying to go professional in poker after his football career. He is already rich and famous, so going into poker for that doesn't seem like the motivation, he probably is really interested in the game itself. It's hard to say that he is really addicted to gambling by one video alone. If this happens on a regular basis than I would agree, but here there could be also other reasons. For example, I don't know if he is playing a cash or a tournament on his phone. When it comes to poker tournaments they can last a pretty long time. With a cash game he could just stop playing and continue after the birthday party without any problems. But maybe he started a tournament a couple of hours earlier and didn't expect to go so deep. Once you get close to the bubble, poker tournaments become really slow as the majority of players will only play the best possible hands. I have been in the situation where I thought I would only play poker for 1-2 hours, only to end up playing for 5 hours as I managed to almost win the tournament.

That is a real possibility, on the early stages of a tournament players drop like flies as you can see the majority of them being eliminated very quickly, since they are trying some risky maneuvers with the hope of getting on the top of the rankings and obtain an advantage over the rest of the players, but once that first stage is crossed things can get really slow, and if Neymar was in that position then it could make sense that he was gambling at the time when some people may consider such a thing to be inappropriate.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 21, 2024, 09:08:42 AM

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I think people are overreacting to it and not that I would do the same, because I am not addicted to poker that much, actually I don't even remember when was the last time I played it, but if I was given an entry to a poker tournament with a big award at the end, I would probably do the same in that situation too.

People who overreacted to the video were offended by Neymar's attitude of playing poker while celebrating his son's birthday.

But, yes as you said everyone has a different reaction and that happened to me too.
It's like a normal game and maybe just as entertainment, but somehow you have to do it during her daughter's birthday celebration.
We don't know what really happened.

Whether he is addicted or not is debatable because Neymar also makes a lot of money from gambling poker,
being a gambling ambassador and he also gets paid and promotes poker.

He wanted to become a professional in poker gambling because he was comfortable with the game of poker that started since the 2014 World cup.

So whatever other people's judgment of him is related to the video,
maybe he doesn't care because others won't understand what really happened and what he did for his family, We can only see from the outside

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Quote from: Mauser on April 21, 2024, 02:47:37 AM

Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 05:26:15 PM

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

I agree with you that this looks really strange, playing poker during the birthday party of your daughter. He is a famous person so there is much more attention to everything he does than for the average person. When I look at my family birthday parties it's quite common to see at least somebody on the phone, even though we are not gambling at the time. At least he is only gambling online and not skipping his daughter's birthday by visiting a physical casino. From what I heard is that Neymar is trying to go professional in poker after his football career. He is already rich and famous, so going into poker for that doesn't seem like the motivation, he probably is really interested in the game itself. It's hard to say that he is really addicted to gambling by one video alone. If this happens on a regular basis than I would agree, but here there could be also other reasons. For example, I don't know if he is playing a cash or a tournament on his phone. When it comes to poker tournaments they can last a pretty long time. With a cash game he could just stop playing and continue after the birthday party without any problems. But maybe he started a tournament a couple of hours earlier and didn't expect to go so deep. Once you get close to the bubble, poker tournaments become really slow as the majority of players will only play the best possible hands. I have been in the situation where I thought I would only play poker for 1-2 hours, only to end up playing for 5 hours as I managed to almost win the tournament.

I feel like what is "strange" may not be all that much depending on the person, or the situation. Like lets say he is in a tournament with an entry of 10k dollars, it is not a money that he would throw away, but not money that he would care about neither, so he just plays it, plus it shows in the video that he is still there, not like he is absent, he is there, what could a grown up man do in a daughters birthday to begin with?

I think people are overreacting to it and not that I would do the same, because I am not addicted to poker that much, actually I don't even remember when was the last time I played it, but if I was given an entry to a poker tournament with a big award at the end, I would probably do the same in that situation too.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 21, 2024, 03:05:24 AM

when I saw the video I thought "Well he probably had a tournament still going on"
Or I thought
it could really be a masked advertisement for the poker house "affiliated" with him
because continuing to play poker during the daughter's birthday is not the best thing... surely there is a "logic" explanation.
What is certain at first glance it seems a terrible self-image not exactly the best thing.
The same was realized in other situation was completely another impact.

Now you mention it. It is possible for all of this to be some kind of smartly hidden advertisement for some poker website or casino, using Neymar status within football to boost their volume of gamblers. However, if that was actually the case, then it would be relatively easy for us to tell.
In the most of those occasions when the casino or poker website is paying for advertisement, they will ask for the logo of their web and brand of poker to be clearly visible during the video, as the super star plays and has fun, it is also required the person playing poker to show themselves profiting from their poker session rather than losing money (that is typical from casino ads).
If there are not so clear elements within this leaked video which align with with what we usually see on casino advertisements, then I would not dare to say it is actually a video some service paid for in the first place (which means the implications of all of this could be darker than expected).

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 21, 2024, 03:05:24 AM

when I saw the video I thought "Well he probably had a tournament still going on"
Or I thought
it could really be a masked advertisement for the poker house "affiliated" with him
because continuing to play poker during the daughter's birthday is not the best thing... surely there is a "logic" explanation.
What is certain at first glance it seems a terrible self-image not exactly the best thing.
The same was realized in other situation was completely another impact.

The logic explanation might be - this is not a real birthday. I mean who celebrates 6 months birthday on a grand scale. If this was 1-year-birthday, then it would be a completely different situation. First birthday. But 6 months? They will soon celebrate 7th month birthday, 8th, 9th,...,14th month birthday. What next, blame him for gambling during his daughters 192th day birthday ? I would understand the blame, if this was a real party, but this is just 3 of them behind the table. For me this looks like a casual situation. There is no even cake and candles on the table. So are they really celebrating something?

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