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Quote from: KTChampions on May 06, 2024, 12:59:45 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 06, 2024, 06:46:07 AM

That's his life, we have no right to accuse him, yes he is gambling but concluding that he is an addict is just unreasonable. I mean, he has the financial capability, can even spend millions easily as he have more his bank account which was earned from being a superstar in his sport. So a guy seen playing poker is already an addict? Maybe some thought he should not gambling since there was a special celebration, but like I mentioned, that's their life, they are the only ones who knows how they live, so as long as the family is happy, all this speculations would become baseless.

This also works in the opposite direction: this is our life and we can discuss (and condemn) anyone Grin

No one is saying that Neymar is so addicted to gambling that it affects his (or his family’s) material well-being. But it’s hard to disagree with the fact that if a person engages in gambling at such moments, it looks strange. And I would say that this is disrespectful towards the rest of the family, but this is really their internal affairs.

People do already tell that he's addicted to gambling just because we've seen him doing poker online? This isnt really that enough that we could really be able to tell that he's addicted to it. People do really love on making up some conclusions just because of that first seen situation but we dont know on how he actually handles up his gambling activity. Just like on what others been saying that its none of our business if he would really be doing gambling on her daughters birthday and this is something that no one should really be telling on what he should really be gonna do. We do have our own decisions and as long we arent that compromising
our finances and could still that support then i dont see any issues. There might be something that not looking good into gambling on the special day of her daughter but doesnt mean that he's like
that all the time or we dont really know.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 13, 2024, 08:45:46 PM

Neymar is not addicted to poker. We shouldn't jump into conclusion.
I read the article and more information presented in the article makes me believe that he doesn't have an online poker or gambling addiction.

Neymar loves Poker and he's been playing it since After the 2014 World Cup
He intends to become a professional poker player and participate in major tournaments after his retirement from football.
He sees a similarity between poker and football
He is a brand ambassador with PokerStars

Now judge for yourself with this added information which the OP missed out, do you still think he has an online poker or gambling addiction?

He sees a connection between Poker and Football, yes, if we approach it from his perspective, we can see that the situation is normal. He is trying to improve his Poker game by playing more and has sufficient resources and sponsorships. Apart from poker and gambling, he also plays different games by doing various streams. I think that if he were an addict, he would not have various hobbies. I think they forget that he is a player.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 06, 2024, 06:46:07 AM

That's his life, we have no right to accuse him, yes he is gambling but concluding that he is an addict is just unreasonable. I mean, he has the financial capability, can even spend millions easily as he have more his bank account which was earned from being a superstar in his sport. So a guy seen playing poker is already an addict? Maybe some thought he should not gambling since there was a special celebration, but like I mentioned, that's their life, they are the only ones who knows how they live, so as long as the family is happy, all this speculations would become baseless.

This also works in the opposite direction: this is our life and we can discuss (and condemn) anyone Grin

No one is saying that Neymar is so addicted to gambling that it affects his (or his family’s) material well-being. But it’s hard to disagree with the fact that if a person engages in gambling at such moments, it looks strange. And I would say that this is disrespectful towards the rest of the family, but this is really their internal affairs.

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Quote from: bakasabo on May 06, 2024, 03:38:48 AM

I agree on all points. And I also add that he is not forcing anyone to play poker or to gamble. He is just doing what he wants and can do as an adult. And people make him a monster that is addicted and gambles in front of a child during birthday, while each point of that accusation is false or arguable. If he would call others to gamble on a platform he gambles on, and uses his family or special day to add extra spicy in that ad, then it would be a different story.

It's because he's a public figure and any backlash that he receives comes from his both fans and haters. It's true that he's not endorsing poker or to gamble and only does his own thing as a hobby and just caught during that moment. Nowadays, people are too sensitive whilst for him, this is just nothing but a hobby or some casual pastime that he wanna do. While there are other footballers that have been endorsing casinos and as well as gambling, they don't get that much backlash because they don't actual gamble and only are there to endorse and promote.
Whilst for the ones that are actually doing it, they're there to do what's necessary for them and as a normal thing to be done without having any malicious intention to encourage people in doing so. Him being a public figure is always in scrutiny to whatever he has been doing and he's not alone on this thing. All of the celebrities and athletes that have been raking in millions in salary are always in the eyes of the paparazzi's trying to scoop out of anything that they do so that they'll have content over them and gain themselves exposure on how they're able to got those news.

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Quote from: bakasabo on May 06, 2024, 03:38:48 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on May 05, 2024, 02:57:48 PM

I wouldn't call a guy caught playing poker an addict. Does he support his family - yes. Is he successful in life - yes. Does he have a lot of money - yes. What's the problem then, let the guy enjoy his game.

I agree on all points. And I also add that he is not forcing anyone to play poker or to gamble. He is just doing what he wants and can do as an adult. And people make him a monster that is addicted and gambles in front of a child during birthday, while each point of that accusation is false or arguable. If he would call others to gamble on a platform he gambles on, and uses his family or special day to add extra spicy in that ad, then it would be a different story.

That's his life, we have no right to accuse him, yes he is gambling but concluding that he is an addict is just unreasonable. I mean, he has the financial capability, can even spend millions easily as he have more his bank account which was earned from being a superstar in his sport. So a guy seen playing poker is already an addict? Maybe some thought he should not gambling since there was a special celebration, but like I mentioned, that's their life, they are the only ones who knows how they live, so as long as the family is happy, all this speculations would become baseless.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 05, 2024, 02:57:48 PM

I wouldn't call a guy caught playing poker an addict. Does he support his family - yes. Is he successful in life - yes. Does he have a lot of money - yes. What's the problem then, let the guy enjoy his game.

I agree on all points. And I also add that he is not forcing anyone to play poker or to gamble. He is just doing what he wants and can do as an adult. And people make him a monster that is addicted and gambles in front of a child during birthday, while each point of that accusation is false or arguable. If he would call others to gamble on a platform he gambles on, and uses his family or special day to add extra spicy in that ad, then it would be a different story.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 05, 2024, 02:57:48 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 13, 2024, 08:45:46 PM

Neymar is not addicted to poker. We shouldn't jump into conclusion.
I read the article and more information presented in the article makes me believe that he doesn't have an online poker or gambling addiction.

Neymar loves Poker and he's been playing it since After the 2014 World Cup
He intends to become a professional poker player and participate in major tournaments after his retirement from football.
He sees a similarity between poker and football
He is a brand ambassador with PokerStars

Now judge for yourself with this added information which the OP missed out, do you still think he has an online poker or gambling addiction?

Great points. As the ambassador he needs to play in public from time to time, it's most likely part of the contract. It's completely normal for someone who gets paid to promote coca cola to drink coca cola, even if it's unhealthy Wink

I wouldn't call a guy caught playing poker an addict. Does he support his family - yes. Is he successful in life - yes. Does he have a lot of money - yes. What's the problem then, let the guy enjoy his game.

Maybe he deliberately made a video of the act of playing gambling on his child's birthday, the video will make interesting material for discussion in various discussions and he has worked well to improve the casino product which has made him a gambling brand ambassador. The short video has sparked various opinions but if we know he is a gambling brand ambassador then we wouldn't be surprised that he is working on promoting the casino, because I'm sure he will prioritize family time on his son's birthday, nothing more valuable than anything except spending time with family.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 13, 2024, 08:45:46 PM

Neymar is not addicted to poker. We shouldn't jump into conclusion.
I read the article and more information presented in the article makes me believe that he doesn't have an online poker or gambling addiction.

Neymar loves Poker and he's been playing it since After the 2014 World Cup
He intends to become a professional poker player and participate in major tournaments after his retirement from football.
He sees a similarity between poker and football
He is a brand ambassador with PokerStars

Now judge for yourself with this added information which the OP missed out, do you still think he has an online poker or gambling addiction?

Great points. As the ambassador he needs to play in public from time to time, it's most likely part of the contract. It's completely normal for someone who gets paid to promote coca cola to drink coca cola, even if it's unhealthy Wink

I wouldn't call a guy caught playing poker an addict. Does he support his family - yes. Is he successful in life - yes. Does he have a lot of money - yes. What's the problem then, let the guy enjoy his game.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 04:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

Celebrities, bloggers and the Internet itself will only show you what they wanna let you see... Why would you quickly assume that the footballer is an addict, when you barely know nothing about his personal life? I could decide to listen to music and watch whatever videos, anytime and anywhere at all - That doesn't mean I'm addicted to my phone.

In his case, I have no business in adding any correctional value. He has all the money he wants and he could decide to either put it on a joker, or stake it up! Infact, gambling was made for the rich - cus in an actual sense, what does a poor man wagering with, when he barely has what to eat?

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Even if Neymar is addicted, then why should we bother so much about it? It is his choice. He is spending his own money the way he wants. He is a grown up man after all. Regards that «birthday case». That video is takes out of context. We can say that this even was a birthday party. Maybe they will have a celebration a little bit later, or have already celebrated. But after seeing a person making few taps on a mobile, seeing poker there and call him addicted imo is wrong.

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Quote from: joeperry on April 24, 2024, 04:47:38 AM

Doesn't seem addiction to me (maybe not yet) but more distracted, just like me sometimes when playing game or watching sports though the child won't remember and maybe it's just that time that he just play and just caught in the video but the rest of the day he celebrate it with his family, it's just a clip and we don't see him doing it all day. Anyway, no matter if you have money or not everyone is just the same it's our instinct that if we win, we want more and if we lose, we want to win that losses.

The difference is that they have huge bankroll than us.

on point, maybe it's because his gambling was only occasional and it was really just timed that there was a media or paparazzi who took a video of him, of course what evidence was obtained, that's what people will immediately believe without knowing the other side of the story. It's possible that this can lead to addiction if he spends almost every day gambling, but that's him, maybe he's aware of what he's doing and I think he won't destroy himself in front of his daughter, though his daughter is still young, she won't remember much of what is happening now.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 24, 2024, 04:37:30 AM

That would surely instill into that childrens mind on which there's really a particular age on which they are really that highly reactive and highly that memorizing or familiarizing on whats happening around or on the things which their parents had been doing specially into those days on when they were born or simply with those special occasions. Even just simply talks about not attending on recognition day on which if your parents
doesnt really show up some care about attending then it might really be that looking a very simple problem but its not because it would really be giving out that lifetime impact on which ive said that it would really be instilling into their minds forever. This is where most people would really be that giving out that kind of negative impressions with this kind of act for a father to be done into its children specially into their special
days which it do really only happens once a year and its really not that hard on giving out a few hours in regarding into the said occasion.

You are exactly that kind of person who did not bother reading article, nor going deep into details of this situation.

First of all, what is this “special day that happens once a year”? Birthday? Technically “6 month birthday” happens every year, but I am sure you have meant “first or 1 year birthday”. That little girl did not turn 1yo. She is only 6m old. Secondly about “memorizing things”. You think kids at such can remember father playing poker on a mobile? That baby cant even speak right now, and only remember few face details. Mobile for her is a flashy thing only right now.

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Doesn't seem addiction to me (maybe not yet) but more distracted, just like me sometimes when playing game or watching sports though the child won't remember and maybe it's just that time that he just play and just caught in the video but the rest of the day he celebrate it with his family, it's just a clip and we don't see him doing it all day. Anyway, no matter if you have money or not everyone is just the same it's our instinct that if we win, we want more and if we lose, we want to win that losses.

The difference is that they have huge bankroll than us.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 04:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

I am sorry to say, but are you stupid or what? Do you really believe that kids remember every single day of their life? How old is that girl? 6 months? At that age kids vision only start to really focus on objects and track their movement. A maximum what that girl at this age is able to remember are parents faces and recognize them among others. That baby at this age will super surprised to see herself in the mirror, and you say she will remember seeing her father gambling on a mobile for a long time. LOL

That would surely instill into that childrens mind on which there's really a particular age on which they are really that highly reactive and highly that memorizing or familiarizing on whats happening around or on the things which their parents had been doing specially into those days on when they were born or simply with those special occasions. Even just simply talks about not attending on recognition day on which if your parents
doesnt really show up some care about attending then it might really be that looking a very simple problem but its not because it would really be giving out that lifetime impact on which ive said that it would really be instilling into their minds forever. This is where most people would really be that giving out that kind of negative impressions with this kind of act for a father to be done into its children specially into their special
days which it do really only happens once a year and its really not that hard on giving out a few hours in regarding into the said occasion.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 04:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

I am sorry to say, but are you stupid or what? Do you really believe that kids remember every single day of their life? How old is that girl? 6 months? At that age kids vision only start to really focus on objects and track their movement. A maximum what that girl at this age is able to remember are parents faces and recognize them among others. That baby at this age will super surprised to see herself in the mirror, and you say she will remember seeing her father gambling on a mobile for a long time. LOL

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 04:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

for sure this is not intentional in his part because I believe that since he is there in celebration he
might not carry to let the game pass just that so he consider playing while waiting for the main event lol.
but hope that this will be a eye opener to him to never let this happen again because His daughter
will remember this for long time .

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Quote from: alani123 on April 13, 2024, 04:26:15 PM

A recently viral video shows football star Neymar playing online poker while celebrating his daughter's birthday with a group of other people present.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13299361/Neymar-online-poker-daughter-Al-Hilal.html

This to me goes to show that no one is immune from addiction. Neymar may have largeley solved his money problems but still he doesn't seem to be able to control his time spend gambling. Therefore he's seen utilizing his time very recklessly, prioritizing playing the right cards over living these once in a lifetime precious moments the best he can. And if a multimillionaire can get addicted in this way, anyone can. Consider this before spending too much of your precious time gambling. Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!

This Football star did the thing that makes him happy in the first place, though we see it not aligned to what is right for us but for him there's nothing wrong about it. A millionaire like him doesn't care for what his money turns out in the future, that's why he kepts doing gambling activity even if it's his daughter's birthday.
Gambling addiction couldn't be controlled as long their source finances is consistently coming over, more particular on him a high paying football player.

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Quote from: xLays on April 23, 2024, 08:08:46 AM

It seems that Neymar's purpose in playing online poker is for pure entertainment. You can see from that article he looks happy. How can you immediately conclude that he's already addicted to online poker just from a video or post like this? Do you have any records of his deposits in poker to suspect addiction? Do you know if he plays it every day? In short, the question here is whether there are signs indicating that he's addicted to gambling?

Moreover, even if he is addicted to gambling, why would someone judge him how he spends his money. For me he is a person who has earned enough to live a merely life, enjoy life and do nothing rest of the life. I am sure he is smart enough not to waste all of his money in poker. And even if he did this, that would be his problem. For me he doing nothing bad; he is not calling others to gamble, he is not doing anything bad to others, so why would we pay so much attention to his hobby ?

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It seems that Neymar's purpose in playing online poker is for pure entertainment. You can see from that article he looks happy. How can you immediately conclude that he's already addicted to online poker just from a video or post like this? Do you have any records of his deposits in poker to suspect addiction? Do you know if he plays it every day? In short, the question here is whether there are signs indicating that he's addicted to gambling?

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Quote from: bakasabo on April 23, 2024, 05:25:00 AM

I was talking general. I was simply outraged that people read only headline, see short video and start putting labels on the person. From one of the best football players in to time Neymar turned in gambling addicted person who gambles in front of kids, and his gambling addiction will move to his daughter (like a flu probably), she will become and addicted gambler with no future. People came to this conclusion after watching only 10 seconds video.

They usually do this if they are not familiar with the person or the subject and they fail to do research and gather facts, sometimes I am also guilty of that.

In a discussion when we discuss personalities and behaviors we create two discussions, the person and the behaviors and along the way, the discussions all become mixed up, especially for people who are not aware of additional information.

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