Topic: Neymar being addicted to online poker - page 3. (Read 1330 times)

I was talking general. I was simply outraged that people read only headline, see short video and start putting labels on the person. From one of the best football players in to time Neymar turned in gambling addicted person who gambles in front of kids, and his gambling addiction will move to his daughter (like a flu probably), she will become and addicted gambler with no future. People came to this conclusion after watching only 10 seconds video.

LOL, I mean the daughter, apparently you are aware of the mistake I wrote.

And some of the facts you provide proof that each person's analysis will have a different point of view.
Those who just look at the headline without analyzing the facts will never know about the points you mentioned.

But I love the meme you posted, it illustrates about how different points of view can be dangerous.

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As in the gossip that a few months ago was crowded about Bruno Mars, who had debts in casinos reaching $ 50 million.
Many wild narratives occurred that cornered Bruno Mars, but when the casino concerned clarified that Bruno Mars was never in debt, then the negative news narrative disappeared with the clarification.

MGM Denies Claims Bruno Mars Has Debt With Casino: ‘Any Speculation Otherwise Is Completely False

This is also because the media that spread the news also want to get more attention and audience, thus making hoax news.

You have said it right - people read the name of the article and instantly start accusing person. From gambling in front of kids, to being a reckless father. But in fact we have

1) its daughters birthday, not his sons birthday
2) little girl is only 6 months old. I would understand if it was her first year, second and so on. But it is only 6th month.
3) Neymar already split with that little girls mother. What if he feels uncomfortable to celebrate with "strangers"? Do people even feel happy, cheerful or wonderful when they met their ex ?
4) who has said they were celebrating something? Room or area was not decorated. No cake, no candles. Just 3 persons sitting behind the table. What if after this moment taken on video, they went to celebrate in other room with guests, balloons, cakes and animators
5) judging person from <30sec video clip is wrong.


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When you talk about it being an advert then that I can relate to because most of the characters of these star which we feel is off can turn out to be something else although their is still a strong clause to the reality that he is just same old gambling entice person that really love the poker game, i mean he is just human and do have habits himself.

Oh but this is just the beginning and at least he has a lot of money to spare in order to pursue this hobby he has but let's not forget that on Twitch and Kick there are A LOT of streamers who had partnerships with some certain bookies and for some of them that partnership ended and they are still gambling from their own pocket. Wonder why ? Well , they became addicts and doing slots for 2 years on a daily stream can do that to you and it's simply sad.  

People would really be seeing it on instant manner and would really be making or drawing up some conclusions something like this and like that which it is mostly be in negative on which this is really that a common approach because its never been that good looking that you would really be doing some casino or online poker or whatever you would be doing into your daughters birthday. Well yeah it does really give out that kind of vibe that he should skipped out a day at least because this is something a specialy day specially this one talks about once a year event or happening. You can gamble anytime.

Just like on what most people been saying on here that its none of our business on how he would really be spending up his time and his connection into his family.
We do have our own routines in life and also its our money then its none of others business on how you would be gonna spending it. People do really always have something to say
on whatever their eyes could really be able to see on which this one isnt really that shocking.

That is a real possibility, on the early stages of a tournament players drop like flies as you can see the majority of them being eliminated very quickly, since they are trying some risky maneuvers with the hope of getting on the top of the rankings and obtain an advantage over the rest of the players, but once that first stage is crossed things can get really slow, and if Neymar was in that position then it could make sense that he was gambling at the time when some people may consider such a thing to be inappropriate.

People who overreacted to the video were offended by Neymar's attitude of playing poker while celebrating his son's birthday.

But, yes as you said everyone has a different reaction and that happened to me too.
It's like a normal game and maybe just as entertainment, but somehow you have to do it during her daughter's birthday celebration.
We don't know what really happened.

Whether he is addicted or not is debatable because Neymar also makes a lot of money from gambling poker,
being a gambling ambassador and he also gets paid and promotes poker.

He wanted to become a professional in poker gambling because he was comfortable with the game of poker that started since the 2014 World cup.

So whatever other people's judgment of him is related to the video,
maybe he doesn't care because others won't understand what really happened and what he did for his family, We can only see from the outside

I feel like what is "strange" may not be all that much depending on the person, or the situation. Like lets say he is in a tournament with an entry of 10k dollars, it is not a money that he would throw away, but not money that he would care about neither, so he just plays it, plus it shows in the video that he is still there, not like he is absent, he is there, what could a grown up man do in a daughters birthday to begin with?

I think people are overreacting to it and not that I would do the same, because I am not addicted to poker that much, actually I don't even remember when was the last time I played it, but if I was given an entry to a poker tournament with a big award at the end, I would probably do the same in that situation too.

Now you mention it. It is possible for all of this to be some kind of smartly hidden advertisement for some poker website or casino, using Neymar status within football to boost their volume of gamblers. However, if that was actually the case, then it would be relatively easy for us to tell.
In the most of those occasions when the casino or poker website is paying for advertisement, they will ask for the logo of their web and brand of poker to be clearly visible during the video, as the super star plays and has fun, it is also required the person playing poker to show themselves profiting from their poker session rather than losing money (that is typical from casino ads).
If there are not so clear elements within this leaked video which align with with what we usually see on casino advertisements, then I would not dare to say it is actually a video some service paid for in the first place (which means the implications of all of this could be darker than expected).

The logic explanation might be - this is not a real birthday. I mean who celebrates 6 months birthday on a grand scale. If this was 1-year-birthday, then it would be a completely different situation. First birthday. But 6 months? They will soon celebrate 7th month birthday, 8th, 9th,...,14th month birthday. What next, blame him for gambling during his daughters 192th day birthday ? I would understand the blame, if this was a real party, but this is just 3 of them behind the table. For me this looks like a casual situation. There is no even cake and candles on the table. So are they really celebrating something?

when I saw the video I thought "Well he probably had a tournament still going on"
Or I thought
it could really be a masked advertisement for the poker house "affiliated" with him
because  continuing to play poker during the daughter's birthday is not the best thing... surely there is a "logic" explanation.
What is certain at  first glance it seems a terrible self-image not exactly the best thing.
The same was realized in other situation was completely another impact.

I agree with you that this looks really strange, playing poker during the birthday party of your daughter. He is a famous person so there is much more attention to everything he does than for the average person. When I look at my family birthday parties it's quite common to see at least somebody on the phone, even though we are not gambling at the time. At least he is only gambling online and not skipping his daughter's birthday by visiting a physical casino. From what I heard is that Neymar is trying to go professional in poker after his football career. He is already rich and famous, so going into poker for that doesn't seem like the motivation, he probably is really interested in the game itself. It's hard to say that he is really addicted to gambling by one video alone. If this happens on a regular basis than I would agree, but here there could be also other reasons. For example, I don't know if he is playing a cash or a tournament on his phone. When it comes to poker tournaments they can last a pretty long time. With a cash game he could just stop playing and continue after the birthday party without any problems. But maybe he started a tournament a couple of hours earlier and didn't expect to go so deep. Once you get close to the bubble, poker tournaments become really slow as the majority of players will only play the best possible hands. I have been in the situation where I thought I would only play poker for 1-2 hours, only to end up playing for 5 hours as I managed to almost win the tournament.

This is the main thing and what most needs to be highlighted, Ney is a famous player, and apart from all that he receives a huge amount of money from Al HIlal and that Nisiqueira has not been able to show what his football is like due to his injuries, so with 1/4 of your salary you want to spend in the casino, it is not something that affects you, because it is a person who has a lot of money, in the case of other people, for example, like me, who does not have anything similar to what he earns This player because he has to play very carefully, with a lot of decision, and taking great care of the money, when I see that there are people who bet more than $100usd it is already worth it. of my admiration, so this is something that I see a lot about this, but in the case of people who have little money and start inventing, because if a player like him can fall into addiction, I really doubt it.

I cannot validate what you expressed in this thread, especially regarding addiction. Maybe, I should research it to confirm that this Brazilian superstar really likes gambling. Or, he just did it on a whim and on purpose. Or maybe, there is something else that we don't really know. That's why, I don't dare to judge people only in the news media. The problem is, we don't really know what actually happened in the screenshot moment. but because Neymar was focused on something he was paying attention to, and coincidentally it was an online poker type game. A wave of responses from the public flowed to him with various assumptions, speculations, the most strengthening of which was that Neymar was written in the news as liking this type of online poker game. However, whether addiction is true or not, we don't know for sure. After all, if he really likes something he likes it, let alone gambling.

There is nothing wrong with that, after all, he is an adult man who knows all the risks. Plus, he is supported by his abundant financial condition. Even though he doesn't do his job in the sense of playing football, because he is injured, Neymar still gets his salary and he can do what he likes without having to harm anyone. the thing is, it's his business and what he likes. Apart from that, Neymar is just like us. What is different is that he is a famous person and has abundant finances. When it comes to gambling there is no difference, we play according to our respective portions. but I agree with the last point you said, I will quote it "Put some limits and enjoy responsibly!"

You havent answered any of my questions.

I am sure that his daughter wont even remember her firs birthday, not to mention her half birthday or father gambling during it. Kids at 6 month dont even talk properly, and you say that "she will learn about gambling".

You know, we scold Neymar for gambling during this half birthday, but there are kids whos father is not even present at their birthdays or in the lives at all. That is the bigger problem. But Neymar, missing some minutes of celebration due to being busy with mobile, that is nothing in comparison.

This is the problem with people who have a huge budget with gambling- they tend to be reckless with their expenditures to the point that it can blindly lead them to financial distraught if done excessively.

I find it somehow unfortunate that he seems to gamble during a special occasion, which is his daughter's birthday. I mean, he can gamble at any time that he wants but I just hope he could have chosen a different time to play.

Again, we have seen multiple posts on how gambling addiction can change a persons life in an instant and this is just one of the living proof on how it can slowly cripple away being rational. I just hope that Neymar's addiction be lessened as we do not want to see another life being wasted away due to excessive addiction from gambling.

I don't know in this case I will not say whether he will be addicted or not in the gambling game that is done because when talking about gambling problems actually it is not a new thing for Neymar even on several occasions in his spare time he can even livestream for gambling so it is not something strange for him.

But when talking about the problem of addiction it is also a little difficult to say because after all he has until now been a professional athlete remains a busy person so let alone gambling because sometimes gathering with family is difficult so that it cannot be said to be an addiction if only this video is used as evidence.

But on the other hand when an athlete plays gambling, it is actually not a taboo because I think almost everyone who is involved in the problem of the match must have temptation and we know that Tonali's problem occurred because of gambling too so gambling must be done it just depends on how they hide their actions so as not to be considered someone bad.

Addiction? I can't deduce such a thing from what I see here. Anyone could be caught in a moment, but that doesn't mean that is what the person is really is. Also, if some scenarios are not thoroughly investigated, any pictures, videos and attached captions may not do the right justification to what really transpired, we are in the technological age where people are now chasing clouts.

Besides, I am not a follower of Neymar, he might have a lot going on in his life that is addictive and I must say that money is not everything. He must have found the financial freedom but he surely still needs happniess, and might have found some hobbies and happiness somewhere. Since he has the money and has it in abundance is enough to cover it. So, he is human and being rich doesn't exclude anyone from an addiction, it is all about how the person now controls it as what you do not control will control you.

This is a showing how addiction can ruin even the best days of our life , How would his daughter feel after learning this that instead of giving His full time at that very special moment yet he is there playing gambling.